Meghan Markle ANL court appeal. Thread 2.

[catinboots123]

For those that are interested - I know I am.

Does anyone know when the appeal judgement will be made.

Czn't blame Samantha for hitting back.

To put that 'hitting back' into context, here's a link to some of Samantha's past comments about Meghan:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/hellcat-on-the-loose-samantha-markle-rants-about-meghan

@Serenster

Thanks for the new thread catinboots. Useful because I discovered something interesting after the first thread closed. Amongst the text messages disclosed by Jason Knauf was one directly to him from Meghan talking about how she was going to send him photos of her draft letter to her father. She notes in the text “I’m in Toronto”. The date was 22 August 2018.

This is interesting firstly because this was not a trip that was reported on (it wasn’t on the list I posted on the last thread, which came from a paper’s list of all their trips - so make that 11 personal trips, at least). But more interesting because two days earlier Royal reporter Rebecca English had tweeted that the couple would be attending a performance of Hamilton, Meghan’s favourite musical, in London.

Rebecca English’s tweet ended by stating that Meghan was not currently in Canada or LA, and wouldn’t be going there any time soon. This can only be her passing on what she had been told by the Palace. The Palace who wouldn’t lie for Harry & Meghan they way they lied for others, according to Meghan, right?Clearly lying about her whereabouts at that point in time though…

Good points. It's also very strange that Meghan felt the need to inform Knauf via text that she was in Toronto. Did she really just fly across the world without so much as notifying her senior advisors in advance? That would only make sense if it was some kind of emergency. But she doesn't have any family there, so I have to wonder what that emergency would be, or how it would have escaped the media's notice for this long.

I think it's more likely that she wanted to get away, so she just ... left. There doesn't seem to be much room in her head for anything beyond her own emotions at any given time.

I do wonder, though, how she made it to Toronto without a passport. Could it be that it wasn't really being kept under lock and key, given to her only for Firm-approved travel?

@artquejtion

OMG, the half sister has raised her head again !!

"Samantha, who disputes a number of Meghan’s claims, said: “I’m looking at suing for defamation in the US. In the UK, I’m looking at a breach of privacy and data privacy act breach because the statutory window for defamation is only one year in the UK.

“Jason Knauf is subpoenable and the messages to [him] are evidence she was libelling and slandering me. Anything to keep this family quiet was my sister’s motto. It’s horrible.”

My first reaction to reading the points about Samantha on that list was "this might be defamation if it isn't true." And I already knew the part about her changing her name to Markle wasn't true. It's very clear that Meghan was actively trying to get these claims widely published. But as far as I know, she didn't succeed in getting anything about child custody published, at least not at that time.

I dont think out people are surprised about this are they?

The pair of them are embarrassing idiots. If any thing it really shows that Harry isn't the puppet but is actually just as bad as her

@ChristmasPlanning

Also why did M send the letter to her dad by fedex to someone who was then going to send it to him!? Surely it just should have been sent to him directly in Mexico?

I wondered that at first, too. But how many postal employees would have handled that letter addressed to Thomas Markle and mailed from the UK? A lot. Enough that there's a decent chance one of them would have been tempted to sell it to a newspaper, and wouldn't care that it cost him his job because the newspaper would pay more for it than he'd have earned in several years anyway. A letter to Thomas Markle mailed from some random spot in the US wouldn't be nearly so tempting. Though he must have been rather confused when he opened it ...

I think Samantha's pattern is that she's fairly quiet until M&H create headlines and then up she pops. Honestly, the entire Markle family (excluding Doria who has maintained a dignified silence to date) behave as badly as each other in terms of public blurting and emotional manipulation.
I also think H/M should stop referring to "senior royals" and either name them or don't make veiled comments.

@HeddaGarbled

Why would this journalist feel the need to deny Meghan was in Canada or LA nor planning to go there?

Yes, that’s strange. I do wonder if she was trying to silence her ex boyfriend, the chef.

I too would like to know where to find all the discussion on the court case. Where can I find the reference to ‘senior Royals’?

Re the presidential ambitions - the non collaborator Omid has mentioned it

@HeddaGarbled

Why would this journalist feel the need to deny Meghan was in Canada or LA nor planning to go there?

Looking at what was going on that month, I found this:

“Rumors that Meghan was in Toronto in mid-August started when the website Royal Central reported that Meghan was flying to Toronto on Air Canada. An anonymous source told the publication Kensington Palace had requested "that no one take Meghan’s picture or approach her on the flight. The news then spread, with multiple publications citing the blog's anonymous source, with no further confirmation. At the time, royal reporters, including Omid Scobie, denied the news that Meghan was in Toronto. ABC's Carolyn Durrand called the speculation inaccurate.”

So there was speculation that Meghan was in Toronto (which was true) but the Palace had denied it. Rebecca English is clearly tweeting what she has been told by the Palace.

It’s all a bit eye opening for me. Everyone lying and scratching each other’s backs.
We are supposed to look up to the institution of the RF and this is what it’s really about. Lies, spin and manipulation. It’s disgusting.

There's publicity, spin kind of lies and then there's blatantly lying on camera and in writing and THEN there's lying in a court of law.

I know which is worse to me. I see no logic for tarring the entire family for the actions of the few.

@ChristmasPlanning

Where can all the emails and original documents be read?

Who do we think Senior Royal Family members 1&2 were? HMQ & Charles? Camilla & Charles?

All the court paperwork will eventually be uploaded to the Judiciary website.

It's not there yet, but the videos from each day of the hearing (the appeal) have been uploaded - see HERE.

Yes I agree. However it’s clear everyone was desperately covering their tracks.

Yes I agree. However it’s clear everyone was desperately covering their tracks.

I’m sure lots of this goes in but if you are referring to the above where it was denied that Meghan was in Toronto, I think the point there is that it shows that rather than leaving Harry and Meghan isolated as they have claimed, the palace were , in fact, shielding them press intrusion when they could.

True

Meghan was extraordinarily foolish to take on the establishment. They will destroy her. She thought she knew better.

There doesn't seem to be much room in her head for anything beyond her own emotions at any given time

I've rarely seen it better put - though I'd add Harry to that

Interesting that Samantha's claiming she hasn't lost custody of any children; I'd have thought that was checkable, so no doubt we'll be hearing more about it

Why did the visit to Toronto have to be a secret. When was it exactly. What a totally unnecessary hornets nest.

I see that it was Omid Scobie who broke the confirmation of Meghan’s trip to Toronto in August 2018.

This site has screenshots of his Twitter posts at the time. They are quite specific and detailed......

Ive been reading this thread but i must admit im confused by it all. Can anyone summarise it for me?

Wanting a private trip to visit friends - perfectly understandable.

Telling lies to journalists or asking journalists to tell lies - irritating but sort of understandable.

Briefing Omid Scobie afterwards 🤯

@Viviennemary

Why did the visit to Toronto have to be a secret. When was it exactly. What a totally unnecessary hornets nest.

Perhaps she was scoping out future bolt holes for her and H to flee to.

My thinking is that the whole "get married, have a baby and then bugger off" thing was the plan the whole time.

I think it was her plan definitely. I think he got drawn into it pretty quickly .