Meghan court case live today

[callmeadoctor]

Derxa parts of my family are batshit like the Markles and observing me then has made me feel very strongly about trying to maintain family relationships. In fact, some of the batshit members are American and I do wonder if Americans are more inclined to cut people off than us.
My American uncle recently died and when two of his children came to visit him in hospital, it was the first time they’d seen him in over five years. The third didn’t bother. I just can’t imagine feeling like that.

@TitledLady

A full transcript of the text exchanges between Meghan and Jason Knauf are now available.

Meghan aside he appears to be a disingenuous weasel

He most certainly is.

I note that he says 'heart attack' , does that mean he did not believe TM.

But I see posters are brushing over the fact that HE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF WILLIAM AND IS ASSISTING THE FECKING RAGS IN TAKING DOWN HIS. BROTHER'S WIFE.

The text screenshots - who is Tilly? The contact name at the top. Is it like a code name, like that’s what Meghan was saved as in his phone instead of her real name?

@whatnumber

Who keeps texts that long? If MM and 5 friends all have new phones would the courts still be able to get the texts?

I think my phone does back ups to cloud storage which includes texts. Really should double check ……

Those texts show communications between Jason and Meghan re the letter. They don’t prove those texts to her dad took place - just her side of the story

Ah, so the text was from Knauf?

In that case, and given what we already know, it seems entirely likely that the bit about "redrafting a page" was intended for publication elsewhere ... or to put it another way, creating a story based only on one person's account

Speaking of which, I see the thing about TM's heart attack/hospital stay has come up again. There's been a lot said about this, but does anyone know if there's actual proof that it happened?

Sorry but, why is everyone pretending that there is proof that Meghan told her friends to speak to People. Even that article that was link has no such proof.

I think you’ll find that the poster I quoted was using verbal irony, Rubicscubicle. No one has said there is proof either way.

But I see posters are brushing over the fact that HE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF WILLIAM AND IS ASSISTING THE FECKING RAGS IN TAKING DOWN HIS. BROTHER'S WIFE.

He has come forward with evidence that she lied in court

Which was always a lie. Even if JK hadn't have shown the evidence, she was still lying. A lie is always a lie wether people know or not.

I take it you believe William and Kate are behind this, what if they are?

Why are H&M allowed to communicate 'their truth' and rip his family apart, they can't ensure the actual truth comes out?

I am not a fan of any of them. But i think its really hypocritical to hold H&M up as some virtuous paragons and anyone who does anything vaguely similar, as the enemy who are victimising them?

Jk probably has his own motives. Doesn't change the fact that she lied in court.

Public figures who are accused off and found out to be liars are quite rightly castigated - and the people who call them out are again quite rightly applauded. See all the threads about our current government!!

Jason Kauf should likewise be supported for calling out liars who are in the public arena who talk big about condemning internet misinformation and SM manipulation

I see posters are brushing over the fact that HE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF WILLIAM AND IS ASSISTING THE FECKING RAGS IN TAKING DOWN HIS. BROTHER'S WIFE

Not all of us, rubics - in fact I mentioned Knauf's employment by W&K myself and wondered what effect that might have

TBF though, the point also ignores that Meghan apparently approached Knauf for assistance in preparing the case ... surely an odd thing to do if someone who was felt to be "taking her down"?

The text screenshots - who is Tilly? The contact name at the top. Is it like a code name, like that’s what Meghan was saved as in his phone instead of her real name

In the reports I have read it says that Knauf did indeed us Tilly as a code name for Meghan. What is interesting is that Meghan says she couldn’t find the texts due to some sort of security delete and again had forgotten about them , yet here they are 🤷‍♀️

JK is a palace employee, his employer has been brought in to disrepute, he's put forward evidence to exhonerate his employer.

He is whistleblowing also, whistleblowers should be applauded.

JK may have other motives but to expose the truth should always be applauded.

Just because "the truth" casts your favourite celeb in bad light doesn't mean the truth is bad. The truth is the truth, it's all that matters.

Maybe the favoured celeb in question should stop telling porkies and they won't be left with egg on their face 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Those texts show communications between Jason and Meghan re the letter. They don’t prove those texts to her dad took place - just her side of the story

Ah, so the text was from Knauf?

In that case, and given what we already know, it seems entirely likely that the bit about "redrafting a page" was intended for publication elsewhere ... or to put it another way, creating a story based only on one person's account

Speaking of which, I see the thing about TM's heart attack/hospital stay has come up again. There's been a lot said about this, but does anyone know if there's actual proof that it happened?

The txts I was referring to are the ones from the Justice Walby hearing. MM sent txts to TM and was ghosted. I did link them on this thread and will shortly be putting them back up again, since posters have a short memory if it's positive for Meghan.

TM did go to hospital. He always acts like he had open heart surgery - he did not, otherwise he would have shown us the scars. He had stents put it, which can take around 30minutes to do. You can be discharged in around 12hrs , he was kept overnight for observation. He showed the papers on his documentary interview. That is why he was able to stuff his face with McD.

TBF though, the point also ignores that Meghan apparently approached Knauf for assistance in preparing the case ... surely an odd thing to do if someone who was felt to be "taking her down"?

I wonder if it was more a case of her asking him to ‘help her’ with her case because he had copies of everything. He can’t use them against her in court if he is ‘on side’.

I think its really hypocritical to hold H&M up as some virtuous paragons

Not just hypocritical, but - as things have turned out - downright risky

I totally get that the hate Meghan received from some quarters will have sparked over the top to "defences" of her, and FWIW she's tried very hard herself to present as a victim ... but it's not necessarily a safe thing to do for anyone, especially if an evidence trail's been left and you're up against people skilled at digging

@smilesy

The text screenshots - who is Tilly? The contact name at the top. Is it like a code name, like that’s what Meghan was saved as in his phone instead of her real name

In the reports I have read it says that Knauf did indeed us Tilly as a code name for Meghan. What is interesting is that Meghan says she couldn’t find the texts due to some sort of security delete and again had forgotten about them , yet here they are 🤷‍♀️

That is the other thing though, it looks like Meghan had a software installed for her to get messages deleted. But from the looks of things, JK did not have this software. Meaning she got 'special' treatment as she thought. No wonder her friends offered he to send them info and they will keep it as back up. That is what the friend said on the telly, we asked her to forward things to us, we have the receipts and timelines.

That is the other thing though, it looks like Meghan had a software

Yea but again we only have her word for this. I was more thinking it was convenient that the texts had disappeared. And also that she couldn’t remember them or the emails.

@StormzyinaTCup

TBF though, the point also ignores that Meghan apparently approached Knauf for assistance in preparing the case ... surely an odd thing to do if someone who was felt to be "taking her down"?

I wonder if it was more a case of her asking him to ‘help her’ with her case because he had copies of everything. He can’t use them against her in court if he is ‘on side’.

Surely, they can't have always known that he was there to work against them initially.

Later, he is the one who makes an accusation of bullying and leaks it to the press.

Also where is his 'non disclosure' ? Looks like he may have signed it for K&W - as he worked for them first. But it did not apply for H&M. Which makes you wonder about his motivations and reasons to why he was placed with H&M. Does not look like he was placed on an honest capacity.

@Gilmorehill

Derxa parts of my family are batshit like the Markles and observing me then has made me feel very strongly about trying to maintain family relationships. In fact, some of the batshit members are American and I do wonder if Americans are more inclined to cut people off than us. My American uncle recently died and when two of his children came to visit him in hospital, it was the first time they’d seen him in over five years. The third didn’t bother. I just can’t imagine feeling like that.

That's very sad. Meghan discarded her embarrassing family. Now she's the embarrassment.

@smilesy

That is the other thing though, it looks like Meghan had a software

Yea but again we only have her word for this. I was more thinking it was convenient that the texts had disappeared. And also that she couldn’t remember them or the emails.

And it has not been disputed.

As I said, even her friend said forward it to us, so if it's deleted on your side, we will keep the evidence.

I can see why MM was put off. She looks around her, she is the only one with the deletion software (from the looks of it, as JK does not have this software). She is the only one who always has to go begging for her passport and documents while everyone around her seems to be driving an ol time.

Looks like certain rules were in place specifically for her.

JK started work at Kensington palace in 2015 - so before Harry’s relationship and marriage to Meghan. Unlikely he was placed there in 2015 to thwart Harry’s as yet uncommenced relationship.

The txts I was referring to are the ones from the Justice Walby hearing. MM sent txts to TM and was ghosted

Yes, I remember those, but you said he'd refused the visit of an aide and now that she'd been ghosted (but without a timeframe) so I'm wondering which it is?

Meghan says she couldn’t find the texts due to some sort of security delete and again had forgotten about them , yet here they are

Now I really had forgotten that bit How odd that, with all her money, contacts and resources, Meghan's seems able to dig out only those texts which suit - and how inconvenient that others were able to find them

Stormzy Yes it's possible Knauf was approached just because he had the texts, but all the same I'd be surprised if she approached someone thought to be doing her down at the direction of the palace

@SallyLockheart

JK started work at Kensington palace in 2015 - so before Harry’s relationship and marriage to Meghan. Unlikely he was placed there in 2015 to thwart Harry’s as yet uncommenced relationship.

He was working for W&K. He was later placed with H&M (maybe to keep an eye on them), whilst also with W&K. Later he goes back to W&K full time.

Look, all I know is that a lot was being leaked while he was at their employ and things got airtight when H&M moved to the US. More specifically, Dan Wootten was not even a royal reporter before JK worked with H&M and suddenly he was getting all the insider scoops. I also know that filed bullying claims against H&M and then leaked them to the times.

“Begging for her passport” is such a jok. She had a PA look after it and keep it in a safe, in line with common / good practice for most family offices. Given her extensive overseas travel as the time, it was hardly withheld when she needed it. It’s annoyed of her taking the truth and putting a sinister spin on it to appear the victim. Do you really think that Harry / the rest of his family / even flipping Elton john and his family / the chairmen of large companies are responsible for the day to day safekeeping of their passports / car v5s and mot certificates etc? Of course they aren’t.
Why I think will be interesting now is how the markle clan will respond to these texts. The gloves will be well and truly off (& I can’t say I blame them - she wants discrediting, unpleasant personal information which is apparently totally inaccurate anyway spread to authors of a book about someone she says she barely knows? Vindictive as hell.)@Serenster is the content of those texts protected by some kind of privilege as disclosed in press reporting of evidence? Or could s markle sue for defamation based on the content? Funded perhaps by ANL?)

She is the only one who always has to go begging for her passport

What a ridiculous statement. She said they took her passport. But we know she travelled and there is no implication at all that she had to beg for her passport in order to do so. Or that other royals don’t also have their passports kept somewhere for them.
I can understand completely a reluctance to give your passport, but it’s a leap to say she was unique in this, or that she had to beg for it to travel.

And I'm saying, that may have been the excuse given to her, we will take care of these for safekeeping for you. Is it possible that other members don't have this safekeeping. Does harry have it. We have seen most of them drive all the time, KM is portrayed as the wholesome hands on mum who drives her DS (possibly to school etc.). Definitely William was portrayed as so involved to hang out with other parents. Do they then ALWAYS go and ask for their keys, documents EVERY SINGLE TIME?

Also who is the Markle clan? and who is s Markle?