In what capacity are Harry and Meghan visiting New York

[IsabelBeck]

They are no longer working members of the Royal Family so have they gone to New York as private citizens?

How do they get to meet with Chelsea Clinton at the WHO offices and UN officials and politicians?

According to the Mail (I know, I know) they had federal protection.

Do Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (as they are styled there) have much clout in the US? Why?

What about the treatment of Thomas Markle. A sick old man abandoned by the daughter he cared for. And in such a cruel and public way. Does he need skin as thick as a rhino's hide. Thicker I would think.

Well yes you’re right. I mean she isn’t representing the family . She is clearly living with Andrew they just aren’t married anymore. I agree she’s living off the RF though and trading on connections. It isn’t right. At least she isn’t slagging off the hand that feeds her though and these days she’s more discreet! The whole lot of them need to go.

@Washeduponthebeach

I suppose because Charles is going to be King. I think the interview he gave to Dimblelby was absolutely cringeworthy. I don’t really like Charles at all. But we are stuck with him. Who else has given interviews criticising the RF? Charles was talking about himself rather than dissing the institution as a whole.

He is not king yet, nor was he when he did the interview. We are not stuck with him, Edward was removed when he was supposed to be King.

H&M were also talking about themselves, only difference is that Charles would never face racism, so he gets a pass at seeming not to blame the palace, he did talk about bad parenting though.

As @Roussette stated, Sarah gave her Oprah interview and is very much in the fold.

@Viviennemary

What about the treatment of Thomas Markle. A sick old man abandoned by the daughter he cared for. And in such a cruel and public way. Does he need skin as thick as a rhino's hide. Thicker I would think.

Who now claims Kensington Palace paid him to try and stop H&M's wedding. I hardly think he's a credible witness.

@Viviennemary

What about the treatment of Thomas Markle. A sick old man abandoned by the daughter he cared for. And in such a cruel and public way. Does he need skin as thick as a rhino's hide. Thicker I would think.

Enough with Thomas Markle. He is the one that went to the papers, all the while ghosting his daughter who was trying to settle things on the low - away from the media. H&M texts grovelled to him, and he stuck up his nose at them as he was getting money from the press. They tried their best, he would not accept.

We are not stuck with him, Edward was removed when he was supposed to be King.

Actually no, he abdicated. Which I doubt Charles would ever do. He's waited too long for the top job to want to give it up!

Yes, obviously, life experience tells me that individuals don't embark on a career of 'greater visibility' when they are not in a good place psychologically or emotionally. Higher visibility increases the pressure on you, especially financially, as your security bill soars.

I think it was nasty talking about a personal disagreement with Catherine, and saying, basically, ' She's the mean girl, not me, and she's going about like a really nice person, when the reality's very different, and she should have publically said, that she was nasty to me'.

If this whole scenario was flipped and it was Catherine going on the Oprah Show to say this, I can assure you that I would think that she was both vindictive and out of order.

I agree with your post @NemoSurprise21, except looking at them away from the British media, they look like they are in a good place to me. This was especially clear in NY.

I think it was nasty talking about a personal disagreement with Catherine, and saying, basically, ' She's the mean girl, not me, and she's going about like a really nice person, when the reality's very different, and she should have publically said, that she was nasty to me'.

You surely saw the vitriol that was brought up over and over because of that story. What is more nasty is letting this story fester and not correct it, when you know it never happened, it is indeed mean girl to let someone take the fall for what you did and let them sit through vitriol like that.

At least she isn’t slagging off the hand that feeds her though and these days she’s more discreet!

No she did that before with her book and saying how awful it all was in the RF. Oh...and her OW interview.
She keeps schtum because she's on the payroll

TM a poor old man so badly treated by them...my arse!
All I will say is...if an anonymous person posted on Stately Homes about him doing what he's done, the advice would be NC!

@AnnunciataZ

We are not stuck with him, Edward was removed when he was supposed to be King.

Actually no, he abdicated. Which I doubt Charles would ever do. He's waited too long for the top job to want to give it up!

Sorry, yes abdicated.

Though from how he acted afterwards, I felt he was forced to abdicate, rather than him choosing it.

@NemoSurprise21

Live you post, very meausured and true

if an anonymous person posted on Stately Homes about him doing what he's done, the advice would be NC!

Indeed @Roussette! See also "SIL really upset me but everyone thinks I made her cry and she isn't bothering to correct them". The overwhelming majority would say YANBU!!

So agree rubics.

The palace are quite capable of rebuttals when it suits them, as has been seen on the past

Hang on...we don't actually know what happened with the 'bridesmaid dress' disagreement. Just because Meghan has said it was Catherine being mean to her, it doesn't mean that it was that way. How can anybody second guess the detail of that incident - or if it happened at all?

All this stuff works fine with ' Seven year olds play at being royal', but in the adult world it is beyond pathetic to go on telly, or even social media, to slag off your family.

They told what they'd been through and why they left
You call it slagging off.
I don't
Nor do many others

Well done them for leaving

It seems likely to me that both were upset about Bridesmaidgate. Stress can make people cry and it can make them snap. Some people are more likely to cry in public, others in private. Some get angry openly, others go home and rant. So many plausible scenarios.

Anyway, I'm with those who think it would have been better not to bring it up with Oprah!

Meghan never said Catherine was a mean girl. When the tabloids reported that Meghan made Kate cry she was subjected to cruel comments & bullying for a long time even when she was pregnant. She never responded, nobody came out publicly to support her and correct that . And the one time Meghan corrected that narrative she gets criticized again, the woman can’t win. Aren’t her tears worth sympathy then? Why is that?. She was basically deemed an angry black woman who made Kate cry . A lot of POC women know this narrative, that’s why many felt for her and related.

Yes @Zuluqueen

Why can't she correct a wrong after endless bullying in the press about this?
The palace kept schtum and it rolled on and on. They corrected the press about Kate having hair extensions FFS!
I thought Meghan was very gracious about bit in the interview, and complimentary about Kate

Kate at least had the British tabloids & some people here who believed she was a victim off Meghan. Even now she still gets sympathy for it. This reminds me of when Viola Davis gently corrected Ellen Pompeo about her comments which were offensive and yet Ellen was the one who walked out of the room crying and Viola seemed like she was the bully. No wonder MO never clapped back when she was bullied, because whenever a POC corrects something that’s untrue then she is the aggressor. Like I always say lucky Kate it helps to be given the benefit of doubt.

I don't assume anyone was an aggressor. I don't assume anyone was a victim. In most cases - I realise not all - when there is a disagreement, both parties can be involved in things becoming emotional and heated, especially when conditions are stressful, as they were for Meghan and Kate.

All I'm saying is that perhaps both cried at some point. It would be understandable, although Meghan may not have witnessed Kate in tears at the time.

It seems to me to have been something that should have been played out in private. Perhaps Kate felt mentioning the event in public would just make it all more of an issue than it needed to be.

if an anonymous person posted on Stately Homes about him doing what he's done, the advice would be NC! The people posting on MN are anonymous and we have no idea whether the account is true or not. People are told to go NC at the drop of a hat on here. Or LTB. Some advice is not realistic or helpful.

Two women have some kind of confrontation about a bridesmaid’s dress in the days before a wedding. It’s a huge public wedding for one of the women, with a lot of family crap going on at the time. The other one gave birth to a new baby less than a week before. Emotions are obviously high for both of them, for different reasons.

The more everyone makes a huge deal out of this, the more I raise my eyebrows at them all.

@Serenster

Two women have some kind of confrontation about a bridesmaid’s dress in the days before a wedding. It’s a huge public wedding for one of the women, with a lot of family crap going on at the time. The other one gave birth to a new baby less than a week before. Emotions are obviously high for both of them, for different reasons.

The more everyone makes a huge deal out of this, the more I raise my eyebrows at them all.

I know. It's pathetic.