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In what capacity are Harry and Meghan visiting New York

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IsabelBeck · 25/09/2021 10:20

They are no longer working members of the Royal Family so have they gone to New York as private citizens?

How do they get to meet with Chelsea Clinton at the WHO offices and UN officials and politicians?

According to the Mail (I know, I know) they had federal protection.

Do Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (as they are styled there) have much clout in the US? Why?

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queenofarles · 27/09/2021 14:04

The coats are beautiful , but from personal experience that Maxmara number is so heavy , it’s a Winter in Berlin or New York sort of coat, not September, I’d be drenched in sweat , Shock

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 27/09/2021 14:35

Meghan doesn't have to abide by the RF's rules about accepting freebie designer outfits. She can promote designers these days if she wishes. She could even be paid to wear particular clothes on high profile occasions.

I don't know if that happened but it's another possible explanation of why she didn't wear weather-appropriate clothes. She might have been constrained by a business arrangement made in advance.

queenofarles · 27/09/2021 14:49

Valentino are Covax partners , all proceeds from their Vaccinated hoodies are going to Covax , so maybe they've loaned her the dress for her stage appearance.

ShinyThingsDistractMe · 27/09/2021 14:55

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Roussette · 27/09/2021 15:12

Rightio Hmm

Washeduponthebeach · 27/09/2021 15:48

@ShinyThingsDistractMe

So in a nutshell he's a plastic prince with a D in GCSE geography. But you know his nan is the queen, and she's a designer clothes horse who can act in a soap. But they are both going to do their level best to preach kindness and something about plastic bottles in the sea.

Cool story, best of luck. Off you go.

Just about sums it up really.
ShinyThingsDistractMe · 27/09/2021 16:09

Can't say I'm one to "invest" in their business proposition. But I'll smile and nod and say "that's nice"

It's not a life I would choose. Photo opportunities, told what to wear or negotiating deals to wear clothes. Shaking hands and saying lines like "free vaccinations for all". The constant Press rat race, how to stay relevant, what to do to get into headlines and get clickbait.

Everyone chooses their own paths in life. I feel like theirs is full off appearance but no action. Unlike a nurse or a midwife or even the man/woman who sold you your car to get to and from home, or the bin man who collects your refuse weekly. They aren't doing anything with physical purpose. But their fans like it and they make money. Each to their own.

Washeduponthebeach · 27/09/2021 17:20

They sum up the vacuousness of modern life to me.

Viviennemary · 27/09/2021 17:24

Roll out the red carpet the Sussex pair are in town preaching equality for all. Hmm

ShinyThingsDistractMe · 27/09/2021 17:26

@Washeduponthebeach

They sum up the vacuousness of modern life to me.
Indeed people need to start viewing them more of the Kim Kardashian type than mother Theresa.

Then the clothes, photos and random headlines will make more sense. Some people crave fame and the lifestyle that comes with it. Meghan has alway wanted to be famous, and that's ok. I'm surprised at Harry who always wanted to previously "shun" the fame, wanted to be a regular soldier and get on with life. But love makes us do crazy things and or change or viewpoint for better or worse.

It's "money for nothing and their drinks for free." As Dire Straits would say.

Roussette · 27/09/2021 17:58

Posters on here are talking like they know H&M.

Ummm you don't. You can make your assumptions but it's just your opinion

queenofarles · 27/09/2021 18:04

But his idea of a regular life is far from regular everyday life. I think he was quite shocked to learn that with stepping away from royal duties he loses PP, free rent homes, money etc..

You can wear expensive clothes and still care about poverty.

ShinyThingsDistractMe · 27/09/2021 18:09

@queenofarles

But his idea of a regular life is far from regular everyday life. I think he was quite shocked to learn that with stepping away from royal duties he loses PP, free rent homes, money etc..

You can wear expensive clothes and still care about poverty.

I can understand him being shocked at loosing PP. To be fair he was born in to his position, that's never going to change.

He will always be in a line of succession. The kings son, the kings brother. He's a high value target. What he decided to do with life will never change his "threat to life".

But again, he can't live overseas where the cost to the met police of protecting him would be astronomical. So his choice led to the PP taken away, and rightly so, but I do understand his shock.

Marmaladeagain · 27/09/2021 18:15

@Shellfishblastard

I don’t see the problem with Harry capitalising on the fact that he is a member of the RF. He isn’t a senior working Royal now but he is still part of the family and that won’t change. Why shouldn’t he benefit from that to some extent?
Yes, but same as Meghan is very much part of her own family. You can be related to people but not have anything to do with them. Harry is related to the RF but hardly part of it in any true sense. He's someone that aired dirty linen whilst his grandfather was dying.

The whole "sorry, just missed your call" ...."keep in touch"....."where does the time go?" .... that sort of family member.

The distance will become more apparent as time goes on and none of the touted photo ops with the RF ever materialise again.

Harry's currency is photos with the RF, but the purse is getting emptier as there are no new connections to the RF, only old photos. I noticed the September party about the Diana statue that Harry was due to come over didn't happen. They can keep dropping into the press their next visit with the RF that doesn't then materialise but no-one is fooled. Well some are obviously Grin but you can't help some people to not see what's right in front of them.

When you can't trust people not to go off and sell conversations/stories/half truths about their own families then you slowly freeze them out as you back out of the door until they realise they're in an empty room and the party's at a different address. That's the sort of "much loved "relation Harry is to the RF.

Viviennemary · 27/09/2021 18:22

Their real position will be clearer if the christening takes place, if they come for Christmas and if they are at the Jubilee celebrations. I hope they are barred from all of them after the Oprah fiasco.

Roussette · 27/09/2021 18:35

Should PA be 'barred' too?

ShinyThingsDistractMe · 27/09/2021 18:38

@Roussette

Should PA be 'barred' too?
Yes , 100%. To be fair he should be handed over to the FBI not hiding under "mummy's apron"
queenofarles · 27/09/2021 18:39

Viviennemary what if their one condition to come is to have people filming them for their shows? Or mics hidden under their clothes?
I mean I wouldn’t want to watch a show about their humanitarian work but i sure would want to watch a fly on the wall documentary about their Christmas meet up ?

But I think it’s so unlikely , after seeing the mics on Harry I honestly Wouldn’t blame Charles or William if they try to come up with excuses not to attend.

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 27/09/2021 18:39

The christening was only ever taking place in the imagination of the tabloids. Same applies to the story about Christmas - in fact that might've even originated on here rather than in the media. As for the Jubilee celebrations, if HMQ wants to invite them over then it's up to her. One of the downsides of having a monarchy is that subjects don't get a say in the monarch's decisions!

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 27/09/2021 18:43

You can wear expensive clothes and still care about poverty

This has always been true of the royals, from the QM in furs and diamonds visiting the east end during the Blitz to Diana in her designer gear paying visits to AIDS hospices in the 80s. Meghan's by no means the first member of the family to wear expensive clothes!

Viviennemary · 27/09/2021 18:49

Yes PA should be barred from any public appearance with royals. Same with Sussexes in this country. Not including funerals.

queenofarles · 27/09/2021 18:55

This has always been true of the royals, from the QM in furs and diamonds visiting the east end during the Blitz ok I draw the line here Grin
What I mean is wearing non blingy showy clothes.
Diana wore expensive loafers visiting land schools in Bosnia , but they were very understated and plain , but still something she usually wears all the time.
IYKWIM.

AnnunciataZ · 27/09/2021 19:00

@Viviennemary

Yes PA should be barred from any public appearance with royals. Same with Sussexes in this country. Not including funerals.
The sins of the Sussexes are hardly on a par with Andrew's!
Shellfishblastard · 27/09/2021 19:00

I am absolutely not excusing PA or the Sussexes. But why should they not be seen publicly with their families?

So are you saying, for example, if H&M did come over at Christmas, they shouldn’t walk with the family to church in the morning? Or if someone gets married in Windsor, they shouldn’t attend and be with their family? Surely it’s up to the family if they want to forgive and forget and not the public?

Viviennemary · 27/09/2021 19:04

Yes I am saying that there should be no public appearances as royalty. No walk to church no balcony. Because it will be all fodder for their Netflix or spotify whatever that is.

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