In what capacity are Harry and Meghan visiting New York

[IsabelBeck]

They are no longer working members of the Royal Family so have they gone to New York as private citizens?

How do they get to meet with Chelsea Clinton at the WHO offices and UN officials and politicians?

According to the Mail (I know, I know) they had federal protection.

Do Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (as they are styled there) have much clout in the US? Why?

@queenofarles

That’s very insulting to many accomplished African American & black/ mixed raced women who like Meghan. Not all AF live in the projects or Compton & even if they did some go to prestigious universities live Harvard & Yale. Good heavens you do jump to your own conclusions, when did I say any of that?

I actually added something then deleted it in my previous post as I knew many would find it unkind comparing Middleton girls to Megan but here it is :

just like many White British find the Middletons so inspirational , for going to prestigious schools , not everyone can afford that sort of education and lifestyle , many people aspire to it but can’t .

wish I had not deleted that part. now

Apologies as you didn’t mean it that way. However I believe many African Americans who can afford it do get an opportunity to go to private school & prestigious universities. I doubt those who like Meghan find her inspirational for this reason alone. Actually now that I think of it I think many African Americans have much better inspirational women more accomplished than Meghan to aspire to. Most of the people I know admired Meghan for sticking it out when it seemed like the whole of British media & some people here hated her, some were initially optimistic about her role in the RF but I remember even some predicting back then that she was going to face a hard time. It was fascinating to some from the commonwealth where majority are black & brown see someone like her marry into to the RF. But like me most we’re not shocked about what happened after.

[quote PreparationPreparationPrep]@derxa apologies I thought you made a sarcastic comment further down that it was her evil father that paid for her education. Meaning he can't be as bad as she makes out because he paid for her education.

My response was that her education was many years ago. If you have the means you should do you best to ensure your children reach their potential- and just because he paid doesn't not mean she was not and still is not grateful but that doesn't give him the right to try and sell her to papers. I don't think anyone is disputing that he paid for it but it doesn't mean that Dorian didn't do her share. [/quote]
As with all of this we can't see inside people's heads and know their motivations and thoughts. My simple point was that the father paying school fees was not an evil act in itself. If anyone wants to question that then I give up.

PreparationPreparationPrep you completely missed the point here , Zulu found it insulting to say many AM find Megan inspirational, I simply pointed out that there are many who find DOC inspirational for getting a private education too,

If you find getting into Downe , Marlborough lowering the bar then you must be quite brilliant

Please don't tell me we are now finding those that get into private school inspirational
I'm shocked.

I certainly don't find the Middleton sisters inspirational, why would I?

No worries Zulu
To be honest , as a parent myself I’d be very happy if my Dds are inspired by Meghan to go to Universities like Northwestern.

I’d be devastated if they say oh I want to be like this famous person who has dropped out of university and is making tons of money on Instagram .

This is the most popular article in the WSJ today. So they are making waves in the US. Its a good article talking about how they are trying to make a new career away from the royal fold - both without its shackes but also without its funding. To answer OPs question, they are there in a personal capacity.

www.wsj.com/articles/prince-harry-meghan-markle-hollywood-deals-netflix-oprah-11632523273?mod=hp_trending_now_article_pos1

Im also puzzled by the virulent hate towards them. They are not being funded by nor represent the UK which seemed to be the main points of contention previously. They are trying to make a living on their own now and may or may not succeed but you cant fault them for trying can you?

@queenofarles

PreparationPreparationPrep you completely missed the point here , Zulu found it insulting to say many AM find Megan inspirational, I simply pointed out that there are many who find DOC inspirational for getting a private education too,

If you find getting into Downe , Marlborough lowering the bar then you must be quite brilliant

No I am not brilliant but have personal experience of private school - attended by the very wealthy and the poor through well deserved scholarships. And in both cases what I find more inspirational is children from poorer backgrounds getting in private schools through scholarships etc or those instate schools and poorer neighbourhoods slogging it for years against very difficult circumstances to reach their potential and set their trajectory on a very different path. Someone who has the money to tutor/ pay for all the extra curricular and rub shoulders with others of the same and then pay for the school place - (I've met a few ) I can see why many would want this and why not) but I can't see what is so inspirational about that.

I'm shocked you needn’t be ,
many find lots of people inspirational for doing all sorts of things. Why do you find getting a good private eduction not one of them?

so many find gordonstoun , Eton, inspirational due to its royal connection.
applying to St Andrew’s was so high because of William and Kate.

What annoys me is the woke lecturing when they don’t live by their own professed standards. What exactly are they doing to conserve the environment? They traipse around lecturing others on how to live as if they are some kind of authority. In fact they drive very environmentally unfriendly cars, take lots of flights and live in an enormous house. If they actually have walked the talk and made some personal sacrifices, it wouldn’t be so irritating. They are just total hypocrites.

Inspirational?- I think that
Is the point as it is no secret that many would Not be in these schools if there was not a cost to go there. Quite often it really is because they can pay the fees not that they are any more inspirational than Kate Smith who is top of her class at the local comp.

Understanding how they are able to make connections and gain publicity does not confer any judgment on their worthiness.

We live in a world where people can be famous for simply being famous. I don’t have to like that fact to acknowledge that it is true.

Legitimate players in the world of politics and charity often work with the famous because it provides needed publicity.

Why do you find getting a good private eduction not one of them?

I would've thought that was obvious.

Because it's not always down to aptitude but wealth of parents.

Eton, yeah right. We are where we are with this government because of the Eton connection. The less said the better.

No I don't find people who have been lucky enough to have parents afford the fees to Eton inspirational

@Washeduponthebeach

So agree on your take on the RF. You're so right.

[quote Roussette]@Washeduponthebeach

So agree on your take on the RF. You're so right.[/quote]
😂

@Washeduponthebeach

Thats a fair point. However Prince Charles and William speak as much if not more on enviromental issues than Harry does. Why does their hypocrisy not bother you? If anything it should bother you more because you are paying for them.

I think the word we are searching for is aspirational not inspirational.

@Serenster

Argos catalogue analogy is disingenuous as Argos covers the most random and obscure things too

Take it from someone who has looked through the story feed from the news agencies to determine what we would pick out to put in the news broadcast, they definitely cover random and obscure!

The whole point of being a wholesaler is that you can offer breadth due to the economics of scale. AP states that they offer 2,000 stories and 3000 photos per day. Reuters has more than 2500 journalists.

As I highlighted before, they do not promote 2000 stories on their SM. it does not matter what they. have in the back banner, they only promote the stories that sell. And H&M are those stories.

[quote Moknicker]@Washeduponthebeach

Thats a fair point. However Prince Charles and William speak as much if not more on enviromental issues than Harry does. Why does their hypocrisy not bother you? If anything it should bother you more because you are paying for them.[/quote]
Charles and William don’t bang on as much as H and M do. If they take private flights I suppose grudgingly it may be necessary at times because of their position and security risks. Harry is now a normal person. He’s not doing Royal duties. So why does he need to be flying around all the time and why does he need a mansion house and fleets of gas guzzling cars?

PreparationPreparationPrep
This is what I meant in my first post! Gosh wish I didn’t mention the Middleton part now .

Anyone can get into aprivate school very very few get ( and remain) into excellent ones.

not everyone who went into Eton is a Boris ,
So what is acceptable now ?
Eton , no
Winchester , yes ?
are we on the fence for Harrow?

@rubicscubicle they are not the nobody's you are trying to make them out to be either in the US.
You are not the only one with family in the US or other places. They are talked about in different publications all over the world. For that matter it does not matter if they are all over the news, does it matter if Sheryl Sandburg and others are in the news all the time? As long as the relevant people know who they are, and they do.

Oh hahaha

Charles and William! You're having a laugh! C was criticised a month or so ago for unnecessary helicopter flights to deliver a climate speech
And William with his Earthshot book and prize just as his GM was lobbying Scottish ministers to make sure her Scotland properties were exempt from new climate laws

Give me a break

Charles and William don’t bang on as much as H and M do. If they take private flights I suppose grudgingly it may be necessary at times because of their position and security risks. Harry is now a normal person. He’s not doing Royal duties. So why does he need to be flying around all the time and why does he need a mansion house and fleets of gas guzzling cars?

'Grungingly' lol.

He is still under threat even if not doing royal duties anymore.

The gas guzzling cars - there was complaint from one of the manufacturers as it was one of their environmental range that the DM rubbished to shade H&M.

[quote Moknicker]@Washeduponthebeach

Thats a fair point. However Prince Charles and William speak as much if not more on enviromental issues than Harry does. Why does their hypocrisy not bother you? If anything it should bother you more because you are paying for them.[/quote]
Charles has been harping on about the environment since 1970 or something, while he exclusively takes private jets and helicopters. He even reminded us of the fact last year on the anniversary, by re-showing that speach - not a word from the British media.

And William taking Kate by helicopter on a 'date night'

And they take helicopters from KP to Amer Hall continually

Where's the criticism for that?

If they want to just make a career for themselves, why do they go on television to talk about how bad it was being royal - they are identifying themselves with the horrors of the royal institution, essentially saying that it, and the experience of being in it, is what has made them the hurt people they are today.

Then Harry, having done a bit of that, will write a book on himself, saying the story won't be about being born royal, it's going to be about the man he is today. So, it's 'forget that stuff about me having been constrained, hurt and tainted, I'm ok now, I'm a new man with a new purpose'.
Bearing in mind, they'd already done the talking about climatic and global issues before they became very open about grievances. They'd already started their new visibility and didn't really need to slag the Royal Family to explain themselves, because they were already finding a way to get it together emotionally enough to change the world - one act of kindness, at a time.

They probably want the RF to criticize them, so they can say: 'We told you! They are horrible to us!"
They'll have to wait a long time for that to happen.

I feel so sorry for the Queen and Prince Charles and Kate and William. Usually, if people don't like you in life, you shut up, you say nothing, and they go away and start picking on a new cause. That's what happens at work: get on with your job, same with new sister-in-law, or whatever , and it will blow over. Crikey, this is like death by a thousand cuts. It is never, ever, ever going to blow over: H and M are always going to blame the royals for their kids not being princely enough, them being upset. What will they start on next?

Why don't they shut up about their royal connections and just focus on being woke - and crap at influencing people.