In what capacity are Harry and Meghan visiting New York

[IsabelBeck]

They are no longer working members of the Royal Family so have they gone to New York as private citizens?

How do they get to meet with Chelsea Clinton at the WHO offices and UN officials and politicians?

According to the Mail (I know, I know) they had federal protection.

Do Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (as they are styled there) have much clout in the US? Why?

fact they they are RF connection is not a big deal for the US where they are. So maybe the RF connection which they can never disconnect from is
Not earning them as much as the UK would like to think going by I think many Americans still think they are representing the Royal Family and find the whole thing fairy tale like.

I do believe that they are quite popular , being a mixed race woman marrying into the RF is a big deal anywhere , and for many African American woman/woman of colour Meghan is very inspirational. Not just for marrying a prince but for getting a private education and getting into a prestigious university.

@LuchiMangsho

Sorry to disappoint you but this is the filler stuff that plays on the TV at the gym at 6:30 am. I didn’t say they didn’t have any coverage but I don’t know how to convince you that more Americans this week will know who Gabby Petito is than Prince Harry or Meghan Markle. And that was one article on the NBC entertainment section. I also googled. There was a similar slightly more critical piece on Fox News.

Reuters and AP cover global news. Of all kinds. This is Reuters US.

www.reuters.com/world/us/

And this is Reuters UK

www.reuters.com/world/uk/

(If you scroll down on the UK one there is indeed H&M coverage).

'Filler stuff' as you call them is not as low profile as you think. Lots of celebrities do things every day, and do not get to be talked about unless they are high profile. It will be 'filler' because there really is not that much to say on the matter, it's not food shortages, Covid or any issue that needs dissecting.

In the UK, our US 'filler' is currently the Britney Spears case which, tbf, does require dissecting - but my point is that she is not the only celebrity with serious issues, but being covered attests to her influence/ celebrity status/ how much she is well known.
Celebrities who are not that well known, do not get covered at all.

Gabby Petito is an American and deserves as much coverage as Sarah Everad and Sabina Nessa here in the UK. So very much a different and very serious issue, so not sure why your comparison.

Fox News is the Mail on TV, so.................

@rubicscubicle you were saying that they are extensively covered, and pointing to the Reuters and AP stories as evidence of that.

I was pointing out that you can’t really draw that conclusion from those organisations. Of course they have stories on Harry and Meghan - they are famous people, no question. These organisations offer a hugely wide range of stories to global subscribers who then get to chose what coverage they will themselves disseminate to their own consumers.

Reuters and AP’s services are a bit like the Argos catalogue. They have everything in there that they think might be of interest to someone somewhere. But whether something can be seen as a best seller depends on how many units Argos actually sells.

You can’t measure the Sussexes global popularity from this because you don’t know who from the organisations’ global subscribers decided that their consumers would want to read about them. You can see that there is a supply available (they are in the Argos catalogue, in my analogy) but you can’t see the demand (how many units are purchased).

Not just for marrying a prince but for getting a private education and getting into a prestigious university. She didn't get a private education all by herself though. It was her evil father who paid for it.

@OutwiththeOutCrowd

If they really are filming for Netflix, I would be interested to know the extent to which they are ‘in hock’ to the company and are obliged to get out there and generate content. Harry, in particular, looks rather uncomfortable in some photos. Maybe he’d rather be back home communing with the chickens and the children. But they are schlepping round New York wearing masks, glad-handing bigwigs and hugging other people’s offspring. I don’t know. Is it really completely their own choice to do all this right now?

I think they have now put themselves under lot of pressure to come up with content to justify the big bucks that they have been offered. They have spread their net wide and the relevant CEOs are expecting material which they don't have in their current work (because they aren't politicians or singers etc) and have little to call on from their past (except Harry and his book). I can imagine that their tour of NYC will feature somewhere on Netflix, which is fair enough, and would explain the wires, as long as the people concerned were fully away that they were being recorded and the material may be used at a later date. I say that as the T&Cs on the Archewell Foundation website, which have been discussed before, are a bit questionable.

I did actually like her red outfit but the long cashmere coats were an odd choice.

@derxa

Not just for marrying a prince but for getting a private education and getting into a prestigious university. She didn't get a private education all by herself though. It was her evil father who paid for it.

Yes her evil father who raised her single handedly and paid for all her acting classes and encouraged her to follow her dream.

Argos catalogue analogy is disingenuous as Argos covers the most random and obscure things too.
News agencies cover a lot, but they stick to what will be brought, it's a loss to cover stories that no one will buy and very few care about.

Also, Reuters publicises the stories that they think will drew attention, it it's quite niche, you would have to go look for it, they will not publish it on SM. Big difference.

Drexa but that is not the point , I bet no one even knows he exists or paid for her education for that matter .
Very few might even know her father is white.

A big portion of their fans feel the obligation to support them by buying their book, Virtual baby showers donations and birthday donations, I honestly can’t understand how anyone feels the need to donate money just because of the person they admire. It’s truly like a cult .

Lol Meghan’s father did not raise her as alone. Her mother raised her as well, or are we back to the horrid rumors about her mum again?. Plus parents do pay for their children’s education and don’t expect to be owed for them. He is not exactly innocent, don’t get why some people in UK speak favorably of him when he continues to do the things he does.

And no I doubt a lot of African Americans find Meghan inspirational because she went to a prestigious university. That’s very insulting to many accomplished African American & black/ mixed raced women who like Meghan. Not all AF live in the projects or Compton & even if they did some go to prestigious universities live Harvard & Yale.

Argos catalogue analogy is disingenuous as Argos covers the most random and obscure things too

Take it from someone who has looked through the story feed from the news agencies to determine what we would pick out to put in the news broadcast, they definitely cover random and obscure!

The whole point of being a wholesaler is that you can offer breadth due to the economics of scale. AP states that they offer 2,000 stories and 3000 photos per day. Reuters has more than 2500 journalists.

Zulu no rumors , Meghan lived with her father exclusively for many years, I believe till she went to university.
He made many mistakes , but he did support her through her teen years

@derxa

Not just for marrying a prince but for getting a private education and getting into a prestigious university. She didn't get a private education all by herself though. It was her evil father who paid for it.

@derxa Meghan only started to distance herself from her father after he used her to try and sell himself to the papers. But I'm sure you are aware of this. Just because a parent pays for your education or your upbringing that doesn't mean they are parent of the year or that they do not abuse their children. Or that they continue to do the right thing by their children even in adulthood. Or that they now have the right to use your position to make money. Him paying for her education is neither here nor there - it just proves that he he had the money. All those years ago. Neither does her distancing herself mean that she was not grateful for the opportunity to attend a good school and reach her potential. Many many years before she started distancing herself from him. By your standards this means that parents can do what they like to their adult children because after all they paid for their private education when they were children.

@Zuluqueen

Lol Meghan’s father did not raise her as alone. Her mother raised her as well, or are we back to the horrid rumors about her mum again?. Plus parents do pay for their children’s education and don’t expect to be owed for them. He is not exactly innocent, don’t get why some people in UK speak favorably of him when he continues to do the things he does.

I'm sure he's awful but it's a fact that he paid for her school. It's a fact not an opinion.

Meghan lived with her mum too. I don’t get why some people feel the need to erase her Mum from her upbringing.Adult children cut contact with their parents all the time for things that they deem unacceptable to their mental well-being. Why should Meghan continually get hammered by UK media & UK posters mostly for her father’s so called mistakes. If this was Doria going on Piers M , Australian TV etc etc denying his daughter faced racism, abuse & all the other crap he keeps spouting people would be calling her all sorts. But Thomas Markle gets pity & benefit of doubt because he raised her? . Hell nah! she is better off with no contact until he can prove that he can stop attacking her & Harry.

@rubicscubicle Yes but they live in the US. Their main commercial audience is the US. Their press coverage in the UK while much much more than the US (where as I have shown you extensively is almost negligible) is much more scathing.
I didn’t deny that they were big in the UK. That was my point. Maybe even in Australia/other parts of the Commonwealth. But they are nowhere near the celebrity status of even a Britney Spears in the UK. In other words Britney is way more famous in the UK than they are in the US. As I said I live here, watch the news, go to work as does my husband. My kids go to school here. There was a lot of chatter after the Oprah interview but nothing since and genuinely they are not the American superstars you are trying to convince us they are. This is WHY they need to make the money. Which is fair enough. And make the connections. But they are not starting from the point of instant name recognition they would be in the UK. As I also said many people who watched their wedding would be actually hard pressed to describe how exactly they are related to the Queen.

By your standards this means that parents can do what they like to their adult children because after all they paid for their private education when they were children. Very true

But I'm not share what weight it adds, whether or not he paid - does that mean he cared more about M than Dorian??? Does that mean she would not be where she is if he had not paid for her? Who knows ? Or that he now has the right to sell anything as a return on his investment?

That’s very insulting to many accomplished African American & black/ mixed raced women who like Meghan. Not all AF live in the projects or Compton & even if they did some go to prestigious universities live Harvard & Yale.
Good heavens you do jump to your own conclusions, when did I say any of that?

I actually added something then deleted it in my previous post as I knew many would find it unkind comparing Middleton girls to Megan but here it is :

just like many White British find the Middletons so inspirational , for going to prestigious schools , not everyone can afford that sort of education and lifestyle , many people aspire to it but can’t .

wish I had not deleted that part. now

@derxa

By your standards this means that parents can do what they like to their adult children because after all they paid for their private education when they were children. Very true

Poor you!

just like many White British find the Middletons so inspirational , for going to prestigious schools , not everyone can afford that sort of education and lifestyle , many people aspire to it but can’t .

Do White British really find the Middleton sisters inspirational because they went to private school - wow what low bar to reach for.

Poor you! You've got the wrong end of the stick. The poster was implying that parents shouldn't be able to do what they like to their children if they pay for education and I was agreeing with that implication. My only point was that Meghan was given a good educational start in life and she made the best of it. But the fact remains he did pay. That's all

Do White British really find the Middleton sisters inspirational because they went to private school - wow what low bar to reach for. I don't think anyone thinks that is inspirational at all

This tour didn't sit well with me at all. What is the point? I thought that Harry hated royal life but here he is pretending to be on a royal tour, complete with the security, the police presence, the railed off sections of side walk. The nodding, waving and smiling.

The clothing choice by Meghan was bizarre, she must have been sweltering. I wonder if she had deals to wear these outfits and so had to follow through or something - she had to wear the fall collection even though it still feels like summer.

The craziest one was the thick wool coat with a start bundled around her neck when everyone else is in t-shirts.

To wear hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of jewellery to a school where 94% of the children have free meals is tone deaf. As is reading a book focussing on a father's bond with his children when a lot of these children won't have a father at home or in their lives at all.

@derxa apologies I thought you made a sarcastic comment further down that it was her evil father that paid for her education. Meaning he can't be as bad as she makes out because he paid for her education.

My response was that her education was many years ago. If you have the means you should do you best to ensure your children reach their potential- and just because he paid doesn't not mean she was not and still is not grateful but that doesn't give him the right to try and sell her to papers. I don't think anyone is disputing that he paid for it but it doesn't mean that Dorian didn't do her share.