The "Royal Racist"

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The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

@smilesy

There, corrected that for you I’m sure I’ve seen another poster say that quite frequently 🤔🤣

*Nods in agreement with a knowing grin and raised eyebrow”

Nothing sneery about it. I said the same about Emily Maitlis and I greatly admire her. She did have a sit down with Andrew. What is sneery about that, it's what took place.

I was also answering direct to the post where the person was praising her in particular with how she conducted the interview, as the poster themselves said, while sitting down. What is sneering about that.

On a thread last year when I was a bit of a lone voice, I called those who weren't keen on the couple as antiM&H.

Oh my god. You'd think I had used the worst words ever invented. Talk about a pile-on. It went on for pages.
Very nasty in fact.

@smilesy

There, corrected that for you I’m sure I’ve seen another poster say that quite frequently 🤔🤣

And I think I've seen lost of different posters repeating the same things over and over around here in the same style too. 🤔🤣

Maybe I'm not the only one who is not that original around here.

@dontyouwish2

It’s being talked about because one of Harry’s determined supporters on this thread disparaged the personal bravery of Lindsey Hilsum by saying:

“Ok, so you are gobsmacked by a journalist doing her job and having a sit down. Yet you refuse to be gobsmacked by soldiers on the front of a war zone. Because that is what Harry was during his tour in Afghanistan”

I was clearly pointing out that if you are going to be gobsmacked by a journalist in Afghanistan, you would surely feel the same about a soldier in Afghanistan in the middle of a war. Instead of saying I have no time for him, and implying that he does not know what he is talking about and trying to underplay his role.

Except you came out with the snide comments about a journalist before anyone said anything negative about Harry’s service in Afghanistan.

Prior to the your post there was discussion about Meghan’s statements, in the course of which Harry was mentioned precisely once in the context of his personal standing on this subject - Aspiring Matriarch said “Harry has also served in Afghanistan”. No-one responded at all to that. So no-one was trying to underplay his role. Your post was unprovoked.

@dontyouwish2

Nothing sneery about it. I said the same about Emily Maitlis and I greatly admire her. She did have a sit down with Andrew. What is sneery about that, it's what took place.

I was also answering direct to the post where the person was praising her in particular with how she conducted the interview, as the poster themselves said, while sitting down. What is sneering about that.

Oh give over. One was an interview in an incredibly safe environment with a royal trying to cling on to his privileged life by his teeth. The interviewer having the upper hand.

The other is a female in a terrifyingly misogynistic war zone. The interviewer risking her life.

You don’t need this pointing out. Why are you obfuscating?

@Roussette

On a thread last year when I was a bit of a lone voice, I called those who weren't keen on the couple as antiM&H.

Oh my god. You'd think I had used the worst words ever invented. Talk about a pile-on. It went on for pages.
Very nasty in fact.

There are not many issues which are black and white. I like Meghan and Harry (as far as I know them), but I realise they are not perfect. Who is? Their points of view needed to be heard, I support that.

However I know what you mean. I've been on the receiving end of similar (not about H&M). People can be so extreme on here, dispensing character assassinations peppered with foul language, often on issues about which all we know is from the media.

Never mind, we're still alive :-).

I wish him and meghan all the best, but the media attention and subsequent mud slinging is really tedious (yes I know there's an irony about posting on a thread about them), which isn't their fault as such.

Re: his military service, additional protection didn't just protect him, everyone else around him was a target when he was there, more so than usual anyway. He was facilitated in doing a role he wanted to, fair play to him and fair play to the powers that be that allowed it to happen and balanced the risks. He absolutely wouldn't have been a pilot with his mediocre grades though, lots of what he has done has been off of the back of his privileged upbringing even though he has then gone on to do the work, not that he would acknowledge that, but who cares really.

my niece's partner is Thai - we have all said stuff like "oh bet theyll have cute kids / oh wonder what their kids will look like" etc etc.... none of it said with anything other than excitement and love. Now we all feel a bit worried we are a bunch of racists 😉

Exactly Plum we're alive and kickin'

Except you came out with the snide comments about a journalist before anyone said anything negative about Harry’s service in Afghanistan.

No I did not, the posters was saying they have no time for the Archewell statement and preferred the more involved and knowledgeable AJ and LH. And it has been pointed out numerous times that Harry is valid for his service specifically to Afghanistan and Meghan supports women and has highlighted a charity to help with such.

Guess that was the 'provocation' of a response.🤷‍♀️

@Roussette

On a thread last year when I was a bit of a lone voice, I called those who weren't keen on the couple as antiM&H.

Oh my god. You'd think I had used the worst words ever invented. Talk about a pile-on. It went on for pages.
Very nasty in fact.

I have witnessed those of you and several other posters. Clearly a strategy to drive posters away or make them some kind of targets.

A very nasty pile on indeed.

I've had that more times than I care to remember. dontyouwish2
Sometimes I have to take time out because it can be upsetting.
But mostly, I hang around to be bloody minded lol and because I refuse to be driven off

@MariaAngustias

my niece's partner is Thai - we have all said stuff like "oh bet theyll have cute kids / oh wonder what their kids will look like" etc etc.... none of it said with anything other than excitement and love. Now we all feel a bit worried we are a bunch of racists 😉

The impression I have is that the person who was concerned about the possible colour of any children was saying it in a way that indicated, "Oooh I hope she/he doesn't come out too dark", not, "I wonder what he will look like, ginger or dark?". There definitely are ways of saying things like that, I have heard it with negative connotations in the past and it is really not very nice.

If it had been an innocent remark such as anyone would make about who the baby is like, they wouldn't have taken offence.

The one who said it is a stupid, offensive woman.

@Roussette

I've had that more times than I care to remember. dontyouwish2 Sometimes I have to take time out because it can be upsetting. But mostly, I hang around to be bloody minded lol and because I refuse to be driven off

the name calling used when anyone is supportive of H&M is so last year. yet call people haters and the @ mnhq in with a complaint.....!!!

@Plumtree391. You’ve intimated that you know who said it before. How exactly do you know who said it?

'sources close to', maybe?

That makes me as bad as the flipping tabloids so I don't go into detail.

However, if people really think about it, it is fairly obvious.

*The impression I have is that the person who was concerned about the possible colour of any children was saying it in a way that indicated, "Oooh I hope she/he doesn't come out too dark", not, "I wonder what he will look like, ginger or dark?". There definitely are ways of saying things like that, I have heard it with negative connotations in the past and it is really not very nice.

If it had been an innocent remark such as anyone would make about who the baby is like, they wouldn't have taken offence.

The one who said it is a stupid, offensive woman.
*
This - there are so many responses about " my children/ grandchildren are mixed heritage and they don't mind so what's the big deal. The big deal
Is that it doesn't seem like it was said in that context - I'm sure even M&H discussed their babies colouring but not with malice. That's the difference!

How could it be a woman ( unless the Queen )
Isn’t it someone who was in charge of whether Archie was a Prince and had Security ? The conversations were linked according to the interview
That points the finger of suspicion very firmly in a particular direction?

Doesn’t leave many people does it
So they have virtually said it
May as well confirm it surely?

@Lockupyourbiscuits

How could it be a woman ( unless the Queen ) Isn’t it someone who was in charge of whether Archie was a Prince and had Security ? The conversations were linked according to the interview That points the finger of suspicion very firmly in a particular direction?

It is not the Queen.

I doubt very much the person has 'looked after' Harry.

Isn’t it someone who was in charge of whether Archie was a Prince and had Security? The conversations were linked according to the interview

I thought H&M had rowed back on that one? Something about them now realising the title thing was a result of "protocol" rather than a deliberate snub?

Why is everyone assuming it's a woman? Or a man? Nothing they've said indicates either.

If Harry thought it was offensive or racist at the time he heard it, I don't know why he'd have repeated to Meghan months later when she was supposedly struggling and suicidal. What would that have accomplished, other than to upset her more? He's not the brightest, but I don't think he'd respond to "Harry, I want to kill myself!" with "BTW, so-and-so said something awful about our future children last year."

Can anybody answer a question that I've asked before but can't get an answer to?
Ok, we know why Archie and Lilibet aren't styled Prince and Princess, we know why.
However, why haven't Meghan and Harry used their courtesy titles?
Why are they Master Archie and Miss Lilibet, rather than Lord Dumbarton and Lady Lilibet?

Plumtree391 I’m a terrible insomniac please spill or I won’t get a wink tonight 👍