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The "Royal Racist"

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GrimDamnFanjo · 26/08/2021 15:34

The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

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Plumtree391 · 07/09/2021 10:15

Harry risked his life too. He had a ten year career in the army and was, by all accounts, very good at it - he also loved it.

War correspondents are put in terribly dangerous positions, there is no doubt of that, but it's surely not a competition.

Samcro · 07/09/2021 10:17

I do agree that the reporters are brave. staying when everyone else has fled.

(did think we were stopping with the insults like haters/cheerleaders)

Roussette · 07/09/2021 10:22

Why does it have to be either/or?
Surely we can applaud the brave war correspondents and the fact Harry did his bit in Afghanistan.
We really don't need to compare

Plumtree391 · 07/09/2021 10:22

@Viviennemary

Harry was nowhere near the front line. And had a team of bodyguards with him at all times. Front line duties. I think not.
From where did you get that he was nowhere near the front line? I think you need to check your sources and will find he was very much near the front line.
dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 10:25

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Roussette · 07/09/2021 10:27

I would love to know the source for that too.

I remember watching when he was asked some questions at an airbase and right in the middle of answering one, he had to scramble and literally ran to join his fellow soldiers, leaving the journo taken aback.
There's footage of this out there somewhere.

And no not a bodyguard in sight. That's just a laughable and desperate assertion

Serenster · 07/09/2021 10:27

@Roussette

Here... H&M look very happy, hope that's not going to get to anyone... This is from two weeks ago and World Central Kitchen
They do look happy, you are right! The photo is from last year though, before Meghan was pregnant with Lilibet though, just to be accurate.
Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/09/2021 10:30

I’d prefer to hear from those who genuinely care and show they care instead of this charade about being correct and controlled

I guess it depends what folk think "passion" and " caring" look like. So many are beguiled by the hammering of a keyboard, a few videos and a LOT of PR, which can actually be little more than fluff

I agree, though, that hardly any of the RF do enough. Take a look at the court circular and note just how many days are unaccounted for, even allowing for the nonsense about "preparation" which may mean little more than reading a crib sheet and some outfit planning for the women

Anne's often quoted as an exception, but here's a question ... does she have a publicity spokesman, and if not why not?

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 07/09/2021 10:30

@dontyouwish2
Angelina’s statement had impact. It wasn’t fluffy and wasn’t all about her.
The Archiewell statement lacked any of that.

The female journalist on the ground, asking questions, risking her life trumps both of these celebrity statements.

Serenster · 07/09/2021 10:35

From where did you get that he was nowhere near the front line? I think you need to check your sources and will find he was very much near the front line

I am not up with Afghanistan geography and the history of Taliban action to know where the front lines were at any time (are any of us?) but Philip Hammond did at one stage confirm that Prince Harry had additional protection due to his status while on duty in Afghanistan. From the BBC article linked below:

“He confirmed Prince Harry had been on the base at the time [of the attack] but did not disclose details of the measures taken to protect him.
Mr Hammond said: "Once we knew on Friday night that the perimeter at Bastion had been breached he would have been moved to a secure position under effective guard."
The defence secretary added: "He is serving there as an ordinary officer but clearly there are additional security arrangements in place that recognise that he could be a target himself specifically as a result of who he is."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19631596

dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 10:36

Sorry, have no idea what you mean about fluffy and all about her in regards with the Archewell statement. Particularly puzzled by the all about her bit.

As far as I could tell the statement was all about those suffering and pointing to where to go if you want to help.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/09/2021 10:37

It's here, Roussette:

And yes it could have been for real (I can't possibly know) but it's just as likely it was staged, like so much with the RF. Clearly the troops were busy out there, but I have to wonder what the chances were of a shout happening at such an opportune moment

Zuluqueen · 07/09/2021 10:44

@dontyouwish2

Sorry, have no idea what you mean about fluffy and all about her in regards with the Archewell statement. Particularly puzzled by the all about her bit.

As far as I could tell the statement was all about those suffering and pointing to where to go if you want to help.

I think the all about her is a dig at Meghan.
Serenster · 07/09/2021 10:45

And, as Philip Hammond made clear, the moment there was any actual, appreciable danger to him, he definitely had bodyguards.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 07/09/2021 10:49

@Zuluqueen no. I was talking about Angelina. Her.
I then mentioned Archewell in a separate paragraph.

Roussette · 07/09/2021 10:51

Puzzled you honestly honestly think that was staged???
There's a war going on, but the army agree to have soldiers scramble for aircraft and Harry too for a staged bit of journalism?

Roussette · 07/09/2021 10:54

I have come to the conclusion as I did years ago before, there is absolutely NOTHING Harry and indeed, Meghan can do that would be praised.
To the point of ridiculousness.
We're now on the way to denigrating his army career

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/09/2021 10:57

you honestly honestly think that was staged???

As said I can't possibly know, but I wouldn't discount the possibility; it wouldn't be the first thing to have been staged for a RF member and it certainly wouldn't be the last

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/09/2021 11:00

We're now on the way to denigrating his army career

Not really; it's perfectly possible to accept that he may have served bravely and that the PR people stepped in for a bit of appealing coverage

Like so much else, the two aren't necessarily incompatible

smilesy · 07/09/2021 11:01

@Roussette one poster has suggested something may have been staged. The rest have pointed out that he had extra security and it would be naive at best to think he didn’t. If he needs security as a civilian because of who he is, then he definitely needed it in a war zone. It was indeed admirable that he went to Afghanistan and I don’t think anyone would take that away from him. The problem is that some people seem to be suggesting that what he did trumps a female reporter who is currently in Afghanistan under extremely hazardous conditions for a woman. I agree that both are to be celebrated but some seem to want to insist that what a female journalist is doing is less brave 🤷‍♀️. As you say, it’s not a competition.

Serenster · 07/09/2021 11:02

There’s been a lot of coverage of Britain’s nuclear submarine fleet at the moment due to the programme Vigil on the BBC, including footage of a journalist talking to and filming its crew taking, and acting on their orders as they sit at their stations.

Given that the journalist would only have been able to visit the submarine while it was at the dock, I don’t for one moment think that footage was anything but staged. It would be ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Grin

PreparationPreparationPrep · 07/09/2021 11:02

But it's a war zone you don't know how long the cameras has been on and what was cut out and not- posters are rising up because because they think a journalist is risking more than a soldier ( only because it Harry) I'm sure you don't mean any other soldiers. And more uprising because AJ is a celebrity who has a huge platform
as does Meghan RF and celebrity across more diverse communities and nations. But of course MN must be on the AJ side or journalist side because M&H are supposedly not worthy to raise awareness. It's really is pathetic the amount of straw clutching. Those on the end of all this are suffering and really don't give two figs that you think M&H should sit down they are living this life and from their point of view the more corners that can be reached the better, but as I said you can continue to divide from your comfy sofa - I wonder if you would be divisive and use your hierarchy list if you were in some of these
Places. In addition I wonder how many of you who belittle M&H for what they do - actually do anything yourselves that has
Any
Impact !

Samcro · 07/09/2021 11:02

@Roussette

Why does it have to be either/or? Surely we can applaud the brave war correspondents and the fact Harry did his bit in Afghanistan. We really don't need to compare
have to compare....like M has to be compared to MO!!!
Roussette · 07/09/2021 11:03

I tend to err on the side of huge respect for him for serving 10 years in the Army and doubt the Army would play along with that.
But hey it's Harry...so obviously on these threads that would be an opinion

Serenster · 07/09/2021 11:04

Sorry - posted send too early! I meant to add that footage is definitely staged by the Forces for PR purposes. And Harry in Afghanistan was definitely a great story….