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The "Royal Racist"

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GrimDamnFanjo · 26/08/2021 15:34

The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

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dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 07:31

@Serenster

He helped out with the air ambulance and has fathered future royals. These are his achievements

Well, if you approach it from your narrow-minded perspective, perhaps. William actually has a pretty good CV:

Three A levels - an A in Geography, a B in Art and a C in Biology
University degree - 2:1 in Geography from St Andrews
10-week course in agricultural management at Cambridge
The Regular Commissioning Course - 44 weeks at Sandhurst
Training course at Britannia Royal Naval College
Qualified RAF Pilot
Active service 2005-2013
Civil Pilots Licence
2013-2017 Pilot with East Anglian Air Ambulance
Patron of a number of charities

Harry can claim some similar achievements on his CV, but quite a lot fewer than his brother.

A beefed up list, if I ever saw one.

Filled with a levels and and short courses.

Maybe you are correct, Harry has fewer short courses. He has bigger projects like Sentebale, Invictus, Travelyst, MH and African animal. So he is also a patron to charities outside royal ones.

You also go on to complain about Meghan not standing up for Afghans, then you also tell us that they say , if you want to help and give you links to help with donations. So not only are they raising awareness, but they are also linking to practical help. That is standing up for something.

Roussette · 07/09/2021 07:37

This has got to be sarcasm

Absolutely not.
Point me to what any of the RF actually do and highlight what their passions are, and how it gets people talking, how it brings home to us issues.... and I'll listen to that.
There are none.

Give me M&H any day. They make a difference. Look up World Central Kitchen. Which they are heavily involved with. It's been a lifesaver in Haiti after the earthquakes.

Then go and find me something equivalent with our RF.

As for private jets... I mean... come on... the RF are famous for this. Endlessly. PC took a helicopter 125 miles to deliver a speech recently on lowering aircraft emissions! You couldn't make it up.

Yet... M&H are constantly harangued for this sort of thing and posters on here don't look at who we do pay for, who do supposedly represent us, who consistently say one thing but do another.

dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 07:43

@Serenster

Those are great things for Prince Harry to be involved in, *@why2why*. Your insistence at denigrating anything and everything that Prince William has achieved just makes you look churlish, though.

William has been a big supporter of the Tusk charity over the years and has taken part in a number of missions to try to prevent wildlife crime. He has used an official visit to China to campaign against the trade in ivory. He is a longstanding supporter of organisations working to combat homelessness, and has been patron of Centrepoint for more than 15 years now, and recently taken on another homeless charity, The Passage. He literally saved people’s lives while working for the Air Ambulance.

His Royal foundation donated £1.8m to frontline health staff last year. It also supports He has launched the Earthshot prize to look for solutions to climate change, and persuaded some of the leading global corporates and celebrities to support it. In his role as patron of BAFTA he has spoken about the need for the body to recognise a more diverse range of professionals. As President of the FA he has often spoken out about tackling racism. He has been asked by the Foreign Office to undertake some sensitive diplomatic visits, including to Israel and Palestine.

You may of course have many more accomplishments under your belt, and feel entitled to look down on someone else who has clearly worked hard and achieved a lot. There will be plenty of others however who are think that William has done quite a bit with the cards he has been dealt in life.

William told the people of Tusk, that Africans are overpopulating the world and then went on to have a 3rd child.

He was employed full time at the Air Ambulance, but came as he wished. As a result the other staff members complained that he was working under 20hrs a week, So he was working part time.

At centre point, he is mates with the leader, but not very involved or familiar with what is taking place operationally. As a result he took the friend on a lovely trip to the US, while the Centrepoint workers were busy discussing a crisis that they needed for him to be around to unveil.

I believe you are one of those people that have slated H&M every time they donated from the royal foundation as it's not their money, so does not count, yet here you are crediting William for it.

Thee Earthshot prize did not gain that much traction, because everyone complained that it already exists in exactly the same format except name.

He is fine with promoting racism in football and films, except for his own family. People can see his populist views. No wonder at that Bafta the actors were taking a pop at the rf.

Roussette · 07/09/2021 07:47

Here... H&M look very happy, hope that's not going to get to anyone...
This is from two weeks ago and World Central Kitchen

The "Royal Racist"
dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 07:48

@Roussette

I think William, and Kate, do their bit for causes and are very sensitive to social issues but they are not in a position to show great passion for one in particular at any time. They aren't supposed to, like the Queen. She is very 'correct' and controlled though she does make her views known to those who need to know them

Where?

Whow me passion and enthusiasm for anything and I'll listen. We, the people, deserve to know,

Not seen it yet

And it is this lack of passion and enthusiasm that makes charities close down.

Just recently two more charities from their foundation had to close down.

derxa · 07/09/2021 07:55

What about the news reporter, what new was she adding that came completely from her? I missed that gem. Lindsey Hilsum was sitting in Kabul talking face to face to a representative of the Taliban. She asked him about women protesting in the street about their rights. She asked him about women returning to work and why they were not doing that. I was gobsmacked at her bravery. Journalism is a dangerous occupation and many journalists have died in the course of their work.

Why2why · 07/09/2021 08:47

@derxa

What about the news reporter, what new was she adding that came completely from her? I missed that gem. Lindsey Hilsum was sitting in Kabul talking face to face to a representative of the Taliban. She asked him about women protesting in the street about their rights. She asked him about women returning to work and why they were not doing that. I was gobsmacked at her bravery. Journalism is a dangerous occupation and many journalists have died in the course of their work.
What new exactly did she add? She asked questions and I fairly certain she was not the only who set up the meeting nor was she in the room alone. Her role was to ask questions and there would have been many behind the scenes setting things up including the brave person who made contact and got the agreement to do the interview.
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 07/09/2021 09:00

@Why2why
She was incredibly brave and asked pertinent questions that have real impact.
Don’t disparage her because you have an overwhelming need to defend the honour of a Prince and millionaire actress. It looks very petty.

derxa · 07/09/2021 09:03

What new exactly did she add? She asked questions and I fairly certain she was not the only who set up the meeting nor was she in the room alone. Her role was to ask questions and there would have been many behind the scenes setting things up including the brave person who made contact and got the agreement to do the interview. Grin She's also doing reports from the streets of Kabul giving her thoughts on the situation. I'm actually gobsmacked.

dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 09:27

Ok, so you are gobsmacked by a journalist doing her job and having a sit down. Yet you refuse to be gobsmacked by soldiers on the front of a war zone. Because that is what Harry was during his tour in Afghanistan. So yes they have every right to talk about Afghanistan and know more about the turmoils of war there than most.

StormzyinaTCup · 07/09/2021 09:31

One or two posters must be on a wind up now surely? How can you, in all seriousness, discredit the work of a journalist reporting on the frontline in Afghanistan but laud the words of a celebrity couple living in a mansion thousands of miles away.

This H&M circus is sounding more and more like a cult now. It’s hilarious.😂

Viviennemary · 07/09/2021 09:36

Harry was nowhere near the front line. And had a team of bodyguards with him at all times. Front line duties. I think not.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 07/09/2021 09:42

I agree this has now gone beyond the point of reason
That journalist is fantastically brave how small minded to label it “doing her job sitting down “

smilesy · 07/09/2021 09:44

Who said anything about Harry being in Afghanistan being worthless? Or about soldiers on the frontline? PP were talking about a female journalist on the ground in Afghanistan now that the Taliban have retaken control, with their well known attitude towards working women.

MyLeftFootVMyRightFoot · 07/09/2021 09:52

@milveycrohn

If they name names, the person concerned could a) deny it, and b) sue for libel? This way the RF are all tarred, and speculation continues. Maybe whoever it was supposed to be, does not actually realise it was him/her. Apparently the remarks (whatever they were) were said to Harry before Meghan was pregnant, and repeated by Harry to Meghan when she was a) pregnant with Archie and b) suicidal.
Indeed. Tge way they said it and didn't name does most damage and rumbles on longer.
StormzyinaTCup · 07/09/2021 09:57

Ok, so you are gobsmacked by a journalist doing her job and having a sit down.

Ooh missed this one just before I posted, I rest my case.

Zuluqueen · 07/09/2021 09:57

I admire a journalist doing her job reporting from a dangerous place like Afghanistan.It takes a lot of courage to be a war correspondent.

Meghan always gets compared unfavorably to other women who care about the same issues as her and that so creepy. The thread has moved on from racism denial at least.

dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 10:05

@Viviennemary

Harry was nowhere near the front line. And had a team of bodyguards with him at all times. Front line duties. I think not.
This is categorically not true.

Soldiers in the front line have said, he had no bodyguards and was fighting just like other soldiers. Infact the soldier who was saying this even went on to say, it is impossible to protect anyone during a war because if the enemy sends a missile, it cannot detect and miss a convoy just because it's carrying a prince.

This is just falsehood.

MissMarpleRocks · 07/09/2021 10:06

@Lockupyourbiscuits

I agree this has now gone beyond the point of reason That journalist is fantastically brave how small minded to label it “doing her job sitting down “
Quite.

I agree Zulu I think the journalist is very brave & shows the small mindedness of the posters who are denigrating her work.

I applaud her bravery & those of the soldiers including Harry. I’m not ashamed to admit that I couldn’t do either. Not brave enough.

And I’m no Harry or royalist fan but I’d be amazed if he didn’t have protection out there.

Viviennemary · 07/09/2021 10:07

Oh well. I suppose recollections may vary.

dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 10:07

@Lockupyourbiscuits

I agree this has now gone beyond the point of reason That journalist is fantastically brave how small minded to label it “doing her job sitting down “
She was doing her job interviewing someone was she not?

I am not discrediting the journalist, it's a tough job, I am just astounded by someone who thinks that a soldier has no right to talk about Afghanistan even though they were in a middle of a war, and implies that a journalist, who yes, does a good job, knows better and is somehow more superior in talking about Afghanistan.

dontyouwish2 · 07/09/2021 10:08

@Viviennemary

Oh well. I suppose recollections may vary.
Not at all, yours is just made up bs.
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queenofarles · 07/09/2021 10:14

No energy to get involve with all the H&M cheerleaders on here , but to discredit someone who is reporting from one of the most unstable countries right now is just sheer idiocy and shows lack of understanding of just how serious the situation in some of these foreign countries are.

Even my 10 year old DD knows who Clarissa Ward is , another great news reporter in Afghanistan , who she finds very inspiring , just like I found Cristiane Amanpour Brave in her reporting of the Gulf wars and Bosnian Genocide when I was about that age. It really makes you delve more into reading about international affairs, global issues , current news.
So please Don’t underestimate these brave reporters, they have more power to inspire than countless word salad statements by most Royals , actors , singers …etc.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 07/09/2021 10:15

I took the comment regarding the journalist in the spirit it was written