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The "Royal Racist"

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GrimDamnFanjo · 26/08/2021 15:34

The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

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dontyouwish2 · 04/09/2021 20:00

The made up list of 'lies' by the DM, was already pulled apart by Private Eye. It's just purely a BM intepretation full of bs.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 04/09/2021 20:01

I’m guessing once a year they will pop up and say

We’ve thought about naming the racist again this year ...
But decided not to

Lockupyourbiscuits · 04/09/2021 20:09

They are turning a serious allegation that should be investigated into a circus

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 04/09/2021 20:10

@dontyouwish2

The made up list of 'lies' by the DM, was already pulled apart by Private Eye. It's just purely a BM intepretation full of bs.
Nope there were definite, provable lies in their accounts. Whether you believe their explanations is another matter. They made many false claims in their interview with OW which damaged their credibility with many people.
derxa · 04/09/2021 20:12

@Lockupyourbiscuits

I’m guessing once a year they will pop up and say

We’ve thought about naming the racist again this year ...
But decided not to

Grin
Roussette · 04/09/2021 20:23

I just wish them a happy life. This is nowt compared to the test of what goes on with the RF.

Roussette · 04/09/2021 20:24

Rest!

Andylion · 04/09/2021 20:26

@Roussette

I just wish them a happy life. This is nowt compared to the test of what goes on with the RF.
Roulette, that looks like a very apt Freudian slip. 😁
Andylion · 04/09/2021 20:27

Roulette = Rousette.

Not a Freudian slip.

Roussette · 04/09/2021 20:38

Haha, I've been called all manner of names believe me!
Some unrepeatable!

Plumtree391 · 04/09/2021 23:07

I am sure the wheel of fortune will once again turn in their favour at some point.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/09/2021 21:15

Harry said he won't disclose

In public, yes, but you can bet your bottom dollar the palace will have expected him to - it would after all be the obvious thing to do with such a serious accusation

Best hope H&M had a credible answer, because I can't see some flannel about impressions, feelings and "my truth" cutting it

DucksFlyTogether · 05/09/2021 21:26

I genuinely believe what has been said has been taken the wrong way by H and M.

My son has one mixed race parent of Carribbean/European heritage and one white European parent.

I lost count how many times people said

"Oh who will he take after?" "Do you think he will be as dark as (enter mixed race parent)? "oh I bet he's going to be a beautiful baby with that mixed heritage" "do you think he will be mostly white?"

People get curious about mixed race babies, it's honestly never ment in a racist way. It's just more questions than eyes and noses I found 🤷🏻‍♀️

PurpleOkapi · 05/09/2021 22:43

Does anyone think he's told the family who said it, and what exactly was said? It was clear from the interview that he hadn't at that point, and Meghan's friend's statement about "unproductive" conversations shortly after made it sound like there was no meaningful exchange of information. I might be slightly off on the timeline, but I think the statement about recollections varying came fairly soon after that. If someone had said something overtly racist like "Harry, you shouldn't marry her because your children will be [insert racial slur of your choice here]," I wouldn't expect them to admit it when questioned by the Queen or anyone else. If it was a more general comment about social racism or cultural differences, there's a decent chance they don't even remember saying it. If Harry hasn't given them a good deal more detail than he's given the public, the whole thing probably felt like a wild goose chase on their end.

artquejtion · 05/09/2021 23:55

I imagine it was a very close family member, maybe William as they were extremely close, who may have commented about the likely colour of their offsprings skin. I don't think it was Camilla.

My kids are mixed race and when my husband and I got together, my sis and I speculated a lot about what our kids might look like.

When I was pregnant, it was something we discussed a LOT, my sister, my husband and our families all wondered and discussed what eye colour and skin colour our kids might have. We have two kids, one with dark skin and brown eyes and one with blue eyes and pale skin. None of our musings were driven by racism.

StartupRepair · 06/09/2021 00:07

I wonder if it was extrapolated from William's imo sound advice to take the relationship a bit more slowly.

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Plumtree391 · 06/09/2021 05:08

I get what you are saying, ducks, but something said in that spirit, though still rather gauche from a 'woman of the world', would not have been taken in that spirit by Harry - and he wouldn't have told Meghan. He knows her well enough after all but, honestly, she should have known better than to be so stupid and tactless. You don't just blurt things out without thinking.

BadgerB · 06/09/2021 06:30

@Plumtree391

BadgerB: My bet would be Anne

Do you really think Anne, with all her world experience, is that stupid?

I think Anne is like her father. Both inclined to say immediately what crosses their mind, and only later think, "Shit - that could be taken the wrong way".

It would also explain why they didn't give a name. Anne is low profile (tho' hard working) and from her it would not promote so much "shock/horror".

BadgerB · 06/09/2021 06:37

@PurpleOkapi

I can easily see concerns about how nonwhite children would fare at Eton coming up in that conversation. Not to say he shouldn't marry her because his kids might be bullied or might not want to go to Eton, but to point out that Harry should maybe put a bit more thought into some of his assumptions that everything would fall into place just as neatly as it would have if he'd married a white earl's daughter.
I think you'll find there are a fair number of non-white boys at Eton. Some of then members of royal families. Harry was apparently bullied because he was not really bright enough for Eton, but was let in anyway because ....
Plumtree391 · 06/09/2021 06:41

No it is definitely not Anne. There's a difference between speaking bluntly and saying something so absolutely stupid and racist about the skin tone of a prospective child. Anne is a very sensible, mature and measured member of the family who has had a lifetime of being royal; the one who said it is only mature in years.

Aspiringmatriarch · 06/09/2021 06:58

The gaslighting on here is something else. Clearly, they were being over sensitive. It wasn't meant like that. It's never meant in a racist way. It was somehow extrapolated from William advising Harry to take things slowly. It was about Eton, they've never had anyone non-white there.

It's so creepy.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 06/09/2021 07:07

There's a difference between speaking bluntly and saying something so absolutely stupid and racist about the skin tone of a prospective child

But we haven’t been told what was said so it’s impossible to form an opinion on what was said or the intention.

dontyouwish2 · 06/09/2021 07:27

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Harry said he won't disclose

In public, yes, but you can bet your bottom dollar the palace will have expected him to - it would after all be the obvious thing to do with such a serious accusation

Best hope H&M had a credible answer, because I can't see some flannel about impressions, feelings and "my truth" cutting it

Yes, I meant he would not disclose in public.

The RF know who it is. They obviously do from their dismissive statement. The person, though unapologetic, seems to remember the conversation, but 'recollects' it differently. Funny how the royal sources are not saying now who was accused, even if to excuse them and say they were actually just lovingly curious.

@artquejtion, it was clearly not said in a curious manner though. There were concerns about the implication.

Eton and other top schools have long been taking people of colour, if anything there would be more by the time Archie reaches that age. Most of them would trip over themselves to take a prince.

The problem at the palace is that apparently as a person of colour, you are not believed if you accuse someone of racism. That lady who was called a f*king n-word typist said HR asked for witnesses. Apparently at the palace you will have to walk around with a witness or a tape recorder.

Aspiringmatriarch · 06/09/2021 07:38

The problem at the palace is that apparently as a person of colour, you are not believed if you accuse someone of racism. That lady who was called a fking n-word typist said HR asked for witnesses. Apparently at the palace you will have to walk around with a witness or a tape recorder.*

Exactly this. And there is so much evidence of racially problematic views and behaviour in the RF, not to mention evidence of how they've treated other women who married in. You really have to be invested in actively disbelieving and discrediting H&M to come up with these flimsy alternative scenarios IMO.

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