The "Royal Racist"

[GrimDamnFanjo]

The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

Covid itself hasn't got anything to do with them.

But Harry's whining that he got cut off, was in really poor taste at any time. A millionair complaining he got cut off for quitting his job is hugely entitled.

But saying 'I quit my job and they wouldnt pay me anymore and I had only my own millions to fall back on' during a pandemic when so many people were struggling came across even worse.

I think he genuinely thought people would feel horrified and sorry for him.

It actually made me laugh.

[quote smilesy]@Roussette. I agree that the Royals can hardly be said to have a hard life. However I do think that M must have been disappointed when she found out that it was not as glamorous as she imagined or was led to believe it would be. You really are trading quite a lot of your freedom for the trappings of Royalty and it really isn’t the same as being an A list celebrity.[/quote]
Meghan an A list celebrity?????

I don't think so.....

@MazyontheDipper. What I meant was that is what she thought the life of a Royal would be like imo. I didn’t mean she was one already 🤣

I think patience is generally wearing very thin with celebs and royalty - not just H and M - I think Covid has contributed to that. They have mind boggling amounts of money, privilege, status and luxury when ordinary people are working tirelessly and often struggling personally. Even those who are very highly qualified, exceptional in their fields and highly paid by normal standards can not hope to achieve that level of wealth.

I find it pretty nauseating when A-listers and royalty are praised to high heaven because they call a couple of nurses, hand out a few meals or cobble together a fairly innocuous statement and then make sure it’s widely reported and pictures appear all over the media.

@Roussette

I do get a bit fed up with this narrative they just have to attend damp buildings and talk to strangers.

I'm reading (again) all about the RF and visits and it really isn't that bad. Never having to wait anywhere, never having to get stuck in traffic or worry you are late, never having to grab a coffee or miss lunch, never having to stay up late the night before to learn about the place you are visiting because an aide gives you all the information, probably in bullet points, ... it's not exactly hard is it?

From the time you wake up and a valet has prepared your clothes to the time you get driven home, or helicoptered... you are pampered and looked after...

I really don't think we should be piling on the sympathy for the visits the RF do given how easy it all is...

But don't you think that just occasionally they might fancy doing normal things, something spontaneous, without having to worry about being spotted by anyone, or judged by the world and his wife?

Losing your freedom is quite a price to pay for those privileges.

What’s an A list celebrity? Whatever grade of celebrity she was, she was pretty well-off. With millions in the bank.

It’s also not where you were that matters but where you end up. She’s doing pretty well and whatever level of celebrity she was, she is now a huge part of UK and American history. She will be studied at university, especially in context of post-colonial literature and the modern history of the royal family.

She’s fine pretty well, if you ask me. Well done to her.

*Done pretty well

@Why2why

What’s an A list celebrity? Whatever grade of celebrity she was, she was pretty well-off. With millions in the bank.

It’s also not where you were that matters but where you end up. She’s doing pretty well and whatever level of celebrity she was, she is now a huge part of UK and American history. She will be studied at university, especially in context of post-colonial literature and the modern history of the royal family.

She’s fine pretty well, if you ask me. Well done to her.

I think she was financially stable, but didn't have millions in the bank - surely if she did, she would have repaid her Dad for financing her through uni? She lived in a rented house when she met Harry.

Unless I've missed something?

I do think that the traditions and how stifling it can be must have come as a shock.

I'm sure I've read about Christmas at Balmoral & it sounds bloody awful to me-very stilted considering it's family meeting up!

I do wonder if Meghan thought that they would have more free rein to support causes of their choosing?

But don't you think that just occasionally they might fancy doing normal things, something spontaneous, without having to worry about being spotted by anyone, or judged by the world and his wife?

Of course they would which is why poster after poster on these threads say 'not for me'.

But that's the whole thing about the RF isn't it... some of the most privileged people in the world but they're in a gilded cage aren't they so not for me

Meghan never claimed to be an A list celebrity.. to me she did the same work Kate, Camilla and all the working royals did. She turned up, smiled, waved and had some initiatives just like the rest of them. I don’t understand why some people feel she wanted or expected glamour or Hollywood type status. I really don’t see how she could have kept going and not be affected by being the villain the press made her out to be plus the leaks from some in the palace. I know all the RF women experienced this type of hazing at one point, I wouldn’t have blamed anyone for quitting. So Kudos to Meghan for stepping away when she couldn’t take it anymore, racism causes trauma & when it spills down to your kids even worse. I’m always fascinated about how relevant M is to some in the UK press e on any given day. She left & we are told repeatedly how annoying & disliked they are here but yet they are always a trending even when not seen or heard from. Whenever some people have book or a column to flog they lob an attack at Meghan for clicks & engagement. It’s so weird but I guess by commenting on MN threads about her & Harry I’m part of feeding the interest so there is that.

I can’t really see an upside to being a royal to be honest. I really do think though that M thought she could use it as a platform to advance her causes and got frustrated when she couldn’t do things the way she wanted.

@ diddl.
“I'm sure I've read about Christmas at Balmoral & it sounds bloody awful to me-very stilted considering it's family meeting up!”

They spend Christmas at Sandringham . Summer at Balmoral. Small point but just for clarity .

From the time you wake up and a valet has prepared your clothes to the time you get driven home, or helicoptered... you are pampered and looked after....

Sounds bloody awful, and stifling! The press constantly speculating about your relationships, your kids being mocked, every outfit you wear scrutinised, being told what to say and what not to say, not being able to comment on personal attacks being made about you in the press, the whole works discussing you and judging but never being allowed to defend yourself publicly...it's not everyone's cup of tea, it's a shit existence and not really living in my opinion.

It certainly didn't suit Meghan, she expected something else when she bagged Harry. She has done something about it though, turned her back on the RF, saved Harry from it too (apparently he hated it all along anyway). Hats off to her she has created the life she wanted, that they both did and they are supposedly both much happier now.

I'm not sure how happy they could be about alienating both their families, they may live to regret the hurt they've caused their loved ones, or maybe not.

She's definitely A list now. And anyone that says otherwise is jealous.

@TheHouseILiveIn

She's definitely A list now. And anyone that says otherwise is jealous.

Now they say "well, she didn't get invited to the Obama birthday soiree..." just wait for it

summercupcake

Totally agree. I cant think how any sane person would want to marry into the family.

Now they say "well, she didn't get invited to the Obama birthday soiree..." just wait for it

Yep! I could write these threads sometimes! The fact their birthdays are on the same day always gets ignored!

@Oldbutstillgotit

@ diddl. “I'm sure I've read about Christmas at Balmoral & it sounds bloody awful to me-very stilted considering it's family meeting up!”

They spend Christmas at Sandringham . Summer at Balmoral. Small point but just for clarity .

Oops!

What difference does it make that their birthdays are on the same day? Was Obama’s party even on the exact day and did Meghan have a big party that clashed? I don’t think it would stop me inviting someone to my party if their birthday was the same day as mine.

*Yes, she had a right to know. Before she married him. Before she had gone through with the wedding and was a working Royal and pregnant with their child.

She also had a right to know wheb it was said. But it appears hewaanr honest about when it happened either. Probably because he knew he should have already told her.*

I don't know if anyone else has made this point, but it is possible that Harry didn't tell Meghan about the comment earlier because he, himself, didn't think it was racist.

• But then, lots of people knew she would curtesy to the Queen and were shocked she didn't know. I do wonder if she got so wrapped up in the California celebrity life, she assumed non of this really happened heind closed doors.

But then her claim she knew nothing about him is just bonkers. Not sure anyone believed that. So do think she is also trying to spin things. It's very clear she did know a fair bit about the Royal family before meeting him.*

I only watched the OW interview once, so I might be wrong, but wasn't the curtsy issue that Meghan didn't realize that she would need to curtsy to HMQ in private, not just at public functions? That would make sense.
However, I agree that her claim that she knew nothing about him is doubtful.

What difference does it make that their birthdays are on the same day? Was Obama’s party even on the exact day and did Meghan have a big party that clashed?

Because he had a party that day on his birthday and it was her 40th and she probably had something on?
No idea what your point is

@Andylion
However, I agree that her claim that she knew nothing about him is doubtful.

Especially as she was an admirer of Diana.

@Andylion

*Yes, she had a right to know. Before she married him. Before she had gone through with the wedding and was a working Royal and pregnant with their child.

She also had a right to know wheb it was said. But it appears hewaanr honest about when it happened either. Probably because he knew he should have already told her.*

I don't know if anyone else has made this point, but it is possible that Harry didn't tell Meghan about the comment earlier because he, himself, didn't think it was racist.

I think that's possible.

But the poses the question why did he then decide it was racist and she needed to know when she did. And why was it included in the interview, but not his bit in it.

It also seems very hypocritical. At the time the conversation he was happy with it. Then through being with Meghan learned it was racist. So tells her much later, but not that it was said ages ago and he was happy with it at the time.

Then goes on TV to say 'this person made a racist comment' but doesn't point out that he was happy at the time.

Why does he get to be ok with it, privately. But the rest of the family has aspersions cast on them? For the very same conversation.

Both him and someone else engage in a racist conversation, both thinking it was fine and nothing racist. But his part in it is left out of the interview? But there's a now a lingering accusation against his family.

I guess we will never know, but I do 100% think he is not being honest about this.

All total supposition. I agree we don't know.