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Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

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SnottyLottie · 24/06/2021 07:47

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-charles-paid-substantial-sum-to-harry-and-meghan-after-megxit-but-couple-paid-back-rent-for-frogmore-cottage-12340192

Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

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Angrycat2768 · 26/06/2021 17:55

@BasiliskStare

Duke of Windsor and Unity Mitford were sympathetic to the Nazis ( probably more appropriate to a history post than here so please anyone delete ) but as previous people have said this was before the full implications were known. Maybe they should have seen the storm clouds gathering but many did not at that time. & Not all had the wit to recognise it.
Both of them were hugely anti semitic, long after it was known about the nazi regime. The DoW was relying on Hitler to put him back on the Throne if they won the war. I think the vitriol against Meghsn is so off the scale that it has to be more than ' Actress who has nothing really to do with us married into the RF. Harry is the one who has slagged off his family yet he is the poor little victim. She is an evil manipulator/ white passing and pretending to be Black to playthe race card/a narcissist etc. People want Harry to leave her and take 2 tiny children away from their mother and give them to The Queen/ think their children are fake. That is completely out of proportion, as is the press campaign against her. It is way beyond 'waity Katie'.
ChiefInspectorParker · 26/06/2021 18:42

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CallmeHendricks · 26/06/2021 18:55

@Angrycat2768, where on earth did you get all that from?

BasiliskStare · 26/06/2021 19:16

@Angrycat2768 - Well I may ask for my post to be deleted because your answer doesn't quite get what I was saying. Previous posters asked about aristocratic people and views in roughly WWII

Angrycat2768 · 26/06/2021 20:45

About the DoW? Its public record. About Meghan? It's all over internet. Granted, mostly by people who are obsessed with her to the point of madness, all over the Mailonline comments etc.

SueSaid · 26/06/2021 21:48

'People want Harry to leave her and take 2 tiny children away from their mother and give them to The Queen/ think their children are fake. That is completely out of proportion, as is the press campaign against her. It is way beyond 'waity Katie'

I don't want him to leave her and take 2 tiny dc away blah blah. I want him to stop moaning about his privileged albeit tragic upbringing. To show some dignity and compassion and stfu. Live a happy full life in the US and stop trying to play the victim.

MrsRockAndRoll · 26/06/2021 22:25

@Sensateria

A 36 year old multi millionaire whining to a billionaire that daddy cut him off financially.

I couldn’t give a rats ass if they cut him off in March or July.

He is so totally unlikeable now, it’s made me realise what a great job the palace PR team were doing for him all those years.

@Sensateria

👍👏🏻 great post

StartupRepair · 26/06/2021 23:02

Thing is they want to be known for compassion and humanity and good things. So far what they have achieved is being known for complaining and 'mistruths'.
Harry's work ethic was a bit tarnished for me when he spoke about what a pain it was to have to do overseas trips to places like earthquake ravaged Nepal.

Roussette · 27/06/2021 06:52

I can't find that?? Did he honestly say that it was a pain to go to places like Nepal?
I will go off and google Nepal and Harry because he looked like he came across as if he loved the country, the people and the trip, and he even extended his trip by six days to help rebuild a school over there, and has done a vid in 2020 talking about Nepal.

Allington · 27/06/2021 07:36

Yes, at the time seemed quite happy about it.

But in the second Oprah interview used it as an example of being burnt out and being used by the RF.

StartupRepair · 27/06/2021 07:40

Here are his words.

Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020
Roussette · 27/06/2021 07:54

Thanks for the link. Not quite like you posted AFAIC. I did wonder because it seemed like the Nepal trip meant a lot to him, he has talked of it a lot. And I remember it at the time too.

ChiefInspectorParker · 27/06/2021 08:08

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CallmeHendricks · 27/06/2021 08:12

It this is the problem, @Roussette, when you start pouring your innermost feelings out in interviews. He clearly did a lot of good work on the trip, but it became tarnished when he used it as an example of his woes within the family during the interview. So what do people remember most? The good works or the "gossip" that he felt put upon by being asked to go?
Similarly, the tour to South Africa. I watched the news clips and the documentary about that trip and was really impressed with what they were doing.
And then they both were interviewed towards the end of the trip and it all went wrong. What does everyone remember now?

SallyLockheart · 27/06/2021 08:14

It was interpreted as "I was wheeled out, sent off, didn't really want to go" sort of attitude.

This is what the Guardian reported at the time

"he prince said: “I also know that I arrive here in Nepal as you approach the first anniversary of the earthquakes that took so many lives and that you are working to recover from.

“I pay my respects to those who perished and hope to do what I can to shine a spotlight on the resolve and resilience of the Nepalese people. I want to show all those people around the world who want to help that this is a country open for business – so please come and visit again.

“I look forward to exploring your landscapes, celebrating your culture, and I hope to make many new friends along the way.”

So, according to Harry, he didn't really want to go, he was burnt out, exhausted. He has now diminished the value of that visit, which was very well received, and which tied in with his military life etc.

Any ambassadorial requires game face on and being proud to represent your country, not moan about it afterwards. He has totally disowned the RF, hasn't he?

Roussette · 27/06/2021 08:14

No I'm not addressing it because to me it is nothing. Everyone gets tired/exhausted, just because someone is in a privileged position doesn't mean you don't.

What else do you want me to address? No, I don't think they always blame others for anything they don't like, I think they have made valid points at times, and I think they were not treated fairly over here. If you want me to join in in a character assassination of them, sorry, it ain't happening.

You obviously know I don't feel like you about them, so I'm not sure what it is you want from me.

I will add... at times they don't help themselves, I think they have handled some things wrongly, but I don't feel like you about them.

Not sure what else I can say to be honest

ajandjjmum · 27/06/2021 08:17

They seemed brilliant on the SA trip - having been happy for Harry to have found his soulmate, I was always unsure of Meghan. But throughout that trip I thought they had turned a corner, and my memory is that they were gaining great press, and I personally thought they were doing a good job. Then came the Tom Bradby interview........

SallyLockheart · 27/06/2021 08:17

reading back, the words "care" and "compassion" aren't in that speech. How refreshing. Clearly a different speechwriter.

BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 27/06/2021 08:24

@Allington

I don't think the world can be neatly divided into people who are racist (bad people) and people who are not racist (the good people).

There are extremes, of course, such as White supremacists.

A year or so after moving to South Africa I was getting a takeaway and a young black man kept trying to catch my eye. I assumed he was going to ask me for money, because there were a lot of people begging in that area, so blanked him. The friend I was with came back from the counter, saw him and said "hello X! How are you?" because he was a volunteer at the NGO we were working at.

Now, I have a terrible memory for faces and didn't work in his area, so not recognising him wasn't the issue, but I realised that I would not have blanked him if he had been white, even if I hadn't recognised him. I was angry with myself, and from then on challenged myself not to make assumptions about someone trying to get my attention (and not to try to avoid seeing the huge inequalities based on race, if I was going to say 'no' to someone asking for money I would look at them and say it directly).

Does that incident make me a Racist? Or someone who acted in a racist way and, having recognised it, changed the way they behaved.

My (adopted) younger daughter's paternal birth grandmother used to make a big point of the fact that DD2's skin is lighter than DD1 (the girls had different fathers). DD2 was angry about it on her sister's behalf (and DD1 didn't want to come to those meetings). The grandmother was black - does that make it OK to prefer lighter skin and see it as more attractive/desirable? Is she a Racist? Or someone with some racist views?

As with so many aspects of H&Ms claims, I just don't buy the idea that the whole mess is the fault of other people, that they have not done anything to contribute to the situation.

This is a very thoughtful and balanced post.
SallyLockheart · 27/06/2021 08:25

there are one or two vocal posters on these threads who maintain the royal life is full of idle spongers who just rock up to a royal gig, read the lines written from them and then go home. This criticism is normally directed at a couple of royals in particular.

Easy-peasy they say, what do they do the rest of the time? Clearly Harry found it stressful ...

BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 27/06/2021 08:26

@Roussette

No I'm not addressing it because to me it is nothing. Everyone gets tired/exhausted, just because someone is in a privileged position doesn't mean you don't.

What else do you want me to address? No, I don't think they always blame others for anything they don't like, I think they have made valid points at times, and I think they were not treated fairly over here. If you want me to join in in a character assassination of them, sorry, it ain't happening.

You obviously know I don't feel like you about them, so I'm not sure what it is you want from me.

I will add... at times they don't help themselves, I think they have handled some things wrongly, but I don't feel like you about them.

Not sure what else I can say to be honest

You never ever, even once say what you think they are doing wrong. So it comes across as though they could do anything at all and you would still be singing their praises. There is no balance.
BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 27/06/2021 08:27

@SallyLockheart

It was interpreted as "I was wheeled out, sent off, didn't really want to go" sort of attitude.

This is what the Guardian reported at the time

"he prince said: “I also know that I arrive here in Nepal as you approach the first anniversary of the earthquakes that took so many lives and that you are working to recover from.

“I pay my respects to those who perished and hope to do what I can to shine a spotlight on the resolve and resilience of the Nepalese people. I want to show all those people around the world who want to help that this is a country open for business – so please come and visit again.

“I look forward to exploring your landscapes, celebrating your culture, and I hope to make many new friends along the way.”

So, according to Harry, he didn't really want to go, he was burnt out, exhausted. He has now diminished the value of that visit, which was very well received, and which tied in with his military life etc.

Any ambassadorial requires game face on and being proud to represent your country, not moan about it afterwards. He has totally disowned the RF, hasn't he?

I’m sure the Nepalese were pretty out out by the subsequent ‘but they made me do it’ narrative. It’s just so rude and thoughtless.
Allington · 27/06/2021 08:29

At the time it seemed the perfect type of royal engagement for Harry - a bit of an adventure, outdoorsy, ex-military connection, meeting children and building a school. Far more 'him' than opening a factory in small town UK.

What was he burnt out from ? How many engagements was he doing at that point?

Was it 'I don't want to go because I opened 57 factories in the past month and just need to rest', or 'I don't want to go because it interferes with my polo and social life'?

The first case, fair enough, the second - I can understand if he was put under some pressure to go. It's called working for a living.

Roussette · 27/06/2021 08:31

You obviously don't read all my posts then.

For instance, I have said more than once that the OW interview was not a good thing to do. They had every right to do it, but every interview anyone does from the RF backfires and for them, it backfired spectacularly.

And there has been other instances too.

But seriously, if you don't like my views or the way that I post, you honestly can ignore me, I don't mind!

CallmeHendricks · 27/06/2021 08:32

I'm not sure if the scale of Harry's workload at the time, either. But it has been widely reported that other members of the family (Princess Anne, for example) undertake a huge number of engagements. I don't think I've ever heard her complaining about being burnt out - and she's in her 70s and could be retired, tending her garden if she was anyone else.