Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

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Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

I’m sure the Nepalese were pretty out out by the subsequent ‘but they made me do it’ narrative. It’s just so rude and thoughtless

I doubt it. He extended his trip by 6 days whilst he was over there, to help rebuild a school that had borne the brunt of the earthquake.

@Roussette

I’m sure the Nepalese were pretty out out by the subsequent ‘but they made me do it’ narrative. It’s just so rude and thoughtless

I doubt it. He extended his trip by 6 days whilst he was over there, to help rebuild a school that had borne the brunt of the earthquake.

Yes and now they know he was hating every minute.

@Roussette

I’m sure the Nepalese were pretty out out by the subsequent ‘but they made me do it’ narrative. It’s just so rude and thoughtless

I doubt it. He extended his trip by 6 days whilst he was over there, to help rebuild a school that had borne the brunt of the earthquake.

But that's the issue, Rousette. Harry is rewriting his past and it's not always pretty. He has now linked the Nepal visit (which he enhanced by the school rebuild project) with his moan about being burnt out and having to go. So now the two events are linked. And remember he went on American TV with Opray and said this, so it has been picked up worldwide - which is what they wanted for the whole interview.

'You love having a dig and making it personal don't you?? It honestly honestly does you no favours'

Well I could say that seems a 'dig' at me 🤣

I don't believe it is 'making it personal' to say Sussex supporters are as deluded as they are tbh.

Look, the guff about being financially cut off has recently been proven to be false. He was given a massive lump sum until they were financially independent. I just wish H could be honest and say yes he is constantly wrestling with the big chip on his shoulder, has lashed out and at times his recollections haven't only varied but actually being incorrect.

I won't do a tit for tat but really.... deluded to you, realistic to me.

Digs like this mean I just skate over your posts when there really might be something worth reading in them!

I found the comments Harry made to Oprah interesting for a couple of reasons. Firstly because of his background, and the “'I was always the yes man I was always the one willing to say yes” comments. This is the same man who spent many years in the Army, where the whole culture is supporting the organisation’s aims and saying yes to everything you are asked (ordered!) to do. It’s impossible to overstate how much that culture in embedded within the people who thrive in that setting. I’m not saying this to knock his response to the situation, obviously soldiers get burned out too, but to an onlooker it’s seems its unlikely to be just the time spent as a working royal that led to his burnout - he’d had to be a “yes man” for years and years by then.

And secondly, the Royal family weren’t themselves saying someone needs to go to Nepal. Foreign travel by the royal family (other than for holidays, obviously) is determined by the Foreign Office, and planned in accordance with their wishes, needs and priorities. The FO will have said to the family that they would like someone to go to Nepal, and the Royal family’s job is to fulfill that request. And so they obviously asked Harry to attend. So he wasn’t doing his family a favour, he was fulfilling the obligations of his family to the government. I think that gets totally lost in his account.

Harry is of course under no obligation to present his feelings in a nuanced way, or to give a wider perspective on his situation. But it does seems he has come to regard them as the fault of his family alone. This does also come into the rewriting history that he’s doing.

excellent post Serenster

'They seem to magnify each other’s worst qualities'

They do. It seems a co dependent/enabling relationship. Why don't they shine a light on worthy causes and just learn to live with their own perceived slights? They need to do an LA course on empowerment and resilience.

'found the comments Harry made to Oprah interesting for a couple of reasons. Firstly because of his background, and the “'I was always the yes man I was always the one willing to say yes” comments. This is the same man who spent many years in the Army, where the whole culture is supporting the organisation’s aims and saying yes to everything you are asked (ordered!) to do.'

I know! How can an ex military man moan about having to follow instructions when part of a massive organisation .

@Serenster

I found the comments Harry made to Oprah interesting for a couple of reasons. Firstly because of his background, and the “'I was always the yes man I was always the one willing to say yes” comments. This is the same man who spent many years in the Army, where the whole culture is supporting the organisation’s aims and saying yes to everything you are asked (ordered!) to do. It’s impossible to overstate how much that culture in embedded within the people who thrive in that setting. I’m not saying this to knock his response to the situation, obviously soldiers get burned out too, but to an onlooker it’s seems its unlikely to be just the time spent as a working royal that led to his burnout - he’d had to be a “yes man” for years and years by then.

And secondly, the Royal family weren’t themselves saying someone needs to go to Nepal. Foreign travel by the royal family (other than for holidays, obviously) is determined by the Foreign Office, and planned in accordance with their wishes, needs and priorities. The FO will have said to the family that they would like someone to go to Nepal, and the Royal family’s job is to fulfill that request. And so they obviously asked Harry to attend. So he wasn’t doing his family a favour, he was fulfilling the obligations of his family to the government. I think that gets totally lost in his account.

Harry is of course under no obligation to present his feelings in a nuanced way, or to give a wider perspective on his situation. But it does seems he has come to regard them as the fault of his family alone. This does also come into the rewriting history that he’s doing.

Yes that’s very true.

@Roussette

The people who support the Sussexes seem to be as utterly deluded as the sussexes themselves

You love having a dig and making it personal don't you??

It honestly honestly does you no favours.

But Roussette you constantly say you aren’t one of the Sussex supporters. So where’s the dig?

Saying something you attended and gave all appearances of enjoying or finding interesting at the time was actually torturous/dull/hard work is a real smack in the face for the schmucks who turned up to see you.

I’m sure people know in their heart of hearts that a rf member (or any dignitary or celebrity) doesn’t necessarily relish attending every event, but actually saying so is rude and childish.

Actually I think one of Harry’s cheesiest moves was ditching the royal marines’ memorial concert to go to the Lion King premiere instead. Ok, so we know what most people would pick, but that’s just not what you do , particularly a member of the rf and even more particularly if you are a military man. It really set out H&M’s stall as being only prepared to do fun and glamorous duties.

No one can do charity work for years by pretending. I find it hard to believe that people think MM is somehow faking her compassion considering she has been involved with causes long before she met H. Doing projects for the UN, travelling to Africa, India, etc. She really did not need to do all of this.

I also think it's quite a stretch to equate someone saying they were exhausted while doing work with them finding it tedious/dull etc. Absolutely not the same thing.

The British papers, do not report on the work and good contributions that they do, only interested in twisting what they can for them to look bad. I think that is why some posters have accused them of a lack of commitment and laziness.

Here is an incomplete list of some of the courses they have been involved in during the last 18 months, despite two pregnancies, a miscarriage whilst moving house and raising a baby and striking business deals. No one would not call this low work ethics, by any standards.

'Saying something you attended and gave all appearances of enjoying or finding interesting at the time was actually torturous/dull/hard work is a real smack in the face for the schmucks who turned up to see you.'

Exactly. I mean think it or even say so privately but to declare it publicly is so very arrogant. I'm surprised he is so clueless as to how this stuff comes across. He takes being tone deaf to another level.

@Mummy194

No one can do charity work for years by pretending. I find it hard to believe that people think MM is somehow faking her compassion considering she has been involved with causes long before she met H. Doing projects for the UN, travelling to Africa, India, etc. She really did not need to do all of this.

I also think it's quite a stretch to equate someone saying they were exhausted while doing work with them finding it tedious/dull etc. Absolutely not the same thing.

The British papers, do not report on the work and good contributions that they do, only interested in twisting what they can for them to look bad. I think that is why some posters have accused them of a lack of commitment and laziness.

Here is an incomplete list of some of the courses they have been involved in during the last 18 months, despite two pregnancies, a miscarriage whilst moving house and raising a baby and striking business deals. No one would not call this low work ethics, by any standards.

donations don't actually equate to work. I give to lots of charities.

Do you give hundreds of thousands?

That is not just a list of donations, but the initiatives as well. and it's incomplete.

'donations don't actually equate to work. I give to lots of charities'

I know it's hardly sweat and toil is it, usually announced by chief cheerleader Scobie for lots of applause and head pats. It's the boring duty stuff that is done without great spotlights been shone that I have a bit more interest in.

@Mummy194

Do you give hundreds of thousands?

That is not just a list of donations, but the initiatives as well. and it's incomplete.

how do you know they have give hundreds of thousands of dollars/pounds?. have comprehensive figures been published anywhere?

The list also has the volunteer work included.

Considering they could not really travel to some of the places, donating is another way to show you care. So pretending they don't care is really a stretch.