Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

@Tabitha005 nice to know there are a few nice megastars out there.

@toffeebutterpopcorn

He does realise that the children of rock stars and actors (and various other celebs) grow up just as screwed up as royals (and the rest of us)? All the benefits and opportunities he has had - all the privileges and hands up, and he is still whinging. He has been able to do things/go places that is ordinary people can only dream of. If he’d been brought up on an estate in Castlemilk he’d still be crying.

It all sounds very ‘California’. I had a relative who emigrated there - to the ‘land of opportunity’ - and did the same ‘therapist’ route thing. Became a bit woo, picked every aspect of her life apart, said some dumb things, pissed people off, whined a lot... then got her head out of her bum and realised that actually, shiny new life wasn’t ‘all that’, became desperately homesick and mourned lost time. Felt trapped because of family and jobs now embedded in America.

Feels like a fool now, very lonely and feels that she has missed time with now dead parents and the rest of the family. Really misses the U.K. and feels like an outsider when she does come back. Mourns her life here (which was actually pretty good).

Yes, a ‘new life’ can be very exciting and wonderful when you are swept up. Throwing out your old life and family isn’t always a good idea.

Someone needs to point you in the direction of the 'But we took you to stately homes' thread, @toffeebutterpopcorn .

Saying because he's rich that means the abuse he went through somehow justifies it, is evil and ignorant.

For someone who claims to now be free and happy he sure does a good job in monetising his misery.

What's he going to sell when he's used up his 36 years of RF trauma?

There's nothing worthy, compassionate or admirable about any of these interviews. It's just about making shit loads of money regardless of any wider considerations - that's it.

Fine if that's the way they want to roll but a that a hell of a lot of people are not buying into this frankly self indulgent whinging.

Harry is going to be more famous in the USA, when he never stops rambling about his bad upbringing,is this how he sees having a private life, giving interviews to all and sundry, and still, after all this time,he never stops whittling about himself,and his woes..

Many many people have to go into therapy, for far more serious issues in life than Harry has had to deal with.

Harry could have opted out of Royal life years ago, as he knew very well what royal life would mean,as in being in the media spotlight at times,,as has always been the case in the UK. I am sure that he wasn't forced to do all the Princely duties forever.

He seemed at one time, to have some affinity with some African people in much much poorer countries,helping them in many ways. and who have probably never ever, heard of the word therapy. He could have travelled far and wide, to do so many good things for poorer people, but he ends up being a constant complainer about his life,on USA networks, with the likes of Oprah,and James Corden OMG

Meghan will have surely pushed Harry into the kind of life she wanted for them, it his she, who needs to be famous.

Saying because he's rich that means the abuse he went through somehow justifies it, is evil and ignorant.

I'd say saying that someone was 'abused' by his family, without any evidence, is also a very unpleasant thing to say.

Oh i just googled Maria Borello and there are some lovely pictures of her cuddling the children.

@toffeebutterpopcorn

I wonder what his ex girlfriends are thinking?

I had a friend who had been sexually abused by a family member as a child, when it came out her family split (mum left, and she was left homeless at high school before her mum reluctantly let her sleep on her sofa).

She was having to work and study. Did she ever cry into her tea? No she bloody well didn’t. She only ever said that she was proud of herself for speaking out because her little sister was getting to the age when her had abuse started and she didn’t want her to be abused too.

Everyone's pain is real to them, this doesn't have to be a competition or a 'well in my day, we walked 10 miles to school in bare feet and at night had to sleep on cold stones' pissing contest.

@IcedPurple

Saying because he's rich that means the abuse he went through somehow justifies it, is evil and ignorant.

I'd say saying that someone was 'abused' by his family, without any evidence, is also a very unpleasant thing to say.

I meant the abuse he (and Meghan) have suffered since they married, at the hands of the public, media, etc. Must everything need to be explained in such detail all the time?

The United States Constitution's FIRST amendment guarantees free speech the SECOND amendment addresses the right to bear arms.

Oh please. A poisonous legacy? That is really not right. Harry was not happy in the RF in his 20s. He's left and he's explaining why.
How that is a poisonous legacy I do not know. He is living his life with his family, and has removed them from what I would consider is an unhealthy upbringing within the RF.

I think it is very wrong to criticise their parenting, very wrong indeed.

And no, they are not 'out of control narcissists'. That's just you sounding off about them.

Have you heard the podcast?

I meant the abuse he (and Meghan) have suffered since they married, at the hands of the public, media, etc. Must everything need to be explained in such detail all the time?

They weren't 'abused'. This is yet another melodramitic word that fans of these two love to use. They got some good press and some bad press, like all public figures. They never got physically harassed by the press, because that doesn't happen with royals, certainly not in the UK. They could have ignored it - they had taxpayer funded press secretaries to deal with all that sort of stuff - and just got on with their remarkably priviliged lives, but they chose to obsess over it.

They seem to think they have a right to only the most fawning, unctuous coverage. Reality is nobody has to like them, and an increasing number, driving by their own actions, do not.

I would NEVER ever do this to my child

Do what?

I gather from this thread that Harry has just put out a podcast about himself and his childhood and the trials of fame... and how he is never going to put little Archie through the same?

Why is he putting himself and Archie in the media again?

Surely it would be possible to sink into happy obscurity and to live on the vast wealth left to him by his mother?

Is this part of an earnings thing or is it part of a little-war on the RF?

i find it so funny that people who say they don't like/have no interest in PH have sought out and listened to his podcast!!!

I think it is very wrong to criticise their parenting, very wrong indeed.

I think it's fair to say that they should carefully consider the comments they are making as Archie and the new baby are very likely to read them in future. If I were them I would certainly be considering what impact all of this would have on my children. Like I said previously Harry saw first hand how Sarah doing interviews and selling stories impacted on her kids so you'd think he would be mindful of not following the same path.

@IcedPurple

I meant the abuse he (and Meghan) have suffered since they married, at the hands of the public, media, etc. Must everything need to be explained in such detail all the time?

They weren't 'abused'. This is yet another melodramitic word that fans of these two love to use. They got some good press and some bad press, like all public figures. They never got physically harassed by the press, because that doesn't happen with royals, certainly not in the UK. They could have ignored it - they had taxpayer funded press secretaries to deal with all that sort of stuff - and just got on with their remarkably priviliged lives, but they chose to obsess over it.

They seem to think they have a right to only the most fawning, unctuous coverage. Reality is nobody has to like them, and an increasing number, driving by their own actions, do not.

Yes, they were abused and the denial of haters just shows how quickly situations like Caroline Flack get out of control.

Meghan (and Archie) had DEATH THREATS - um.....a little hard to 'ignore' that. It is very hard to ignore racist abuse and death threats.

I was amused when he commented that he never got to ride a bike as a child 😢. An online magazine seemingly randomly then published ‘ten sweet photos of Harry on a bike as a child!’

Sarcasm?

He's not putting Archie in the media. Show us the endless pics of him, show us where he talks about him. He doesn't.
He just mentioned on the podcast that he was papped on the way to Nursery.
That's it. He talked about protecting Archie in the podcast.

If it’s not okay to criticise M&H’s parenting per your post above , why were you criticising W&K’s parenting (by their choice of nanny)

I did NOT criticise their parenting. I said in more than one post that I am sure, given their age, they are as hands on as they can possibly be.

However I did say the christening photo with the Norland nanny in uniform and the carriage pram was OTT.

That is NOT criticising their parenting. Please don't make things up.

*Yes, they were abused and the denial of haters just shows how quickly situations like Caroline Flack get out of control.

Meghan (and Archie) had DEATH THREATS - um.....a little hard to 'ignore' that. It is very hard to ignore racist abuse and death threats.*

What credible 'death threats' were made against them? Are they safer now on a sprawling property in a country with a very high rate of gun crime and no police protection?

And yes, they got criticism - which here is called 'hate' - but they also had an awful lot of people fawning and gushing over them. Still do. You can't have one without the other. You'd think nobody else in public life ever came in for criticism until the Windsor boy married Rachel from Suits.

It is a poisonous legacy because Archie now has no family at all to speak of, no cousins, no grandparents or great grandparents, nothing. Just Meghan's mother (if they are still speaking to her that is) She has gone very quiet in all of this.

The fact Archie will have to live with the fact his mother was suicidal during her pregnancy with him, that his family were apparently racist about the colour of his skin, that his father did not see any merit whatsoever in keeping all of this horrible stuff away from him and out of the media is a disgrace. They have not protected Archie at all, and have left him dangerously exposed to this hornets nest that has been plastered all over the world.

The right thing to do as a bare minimum is to keep quiet, until Archie is much older, and then calmly and quietly speak to him IN PRIVATE about their experiences and the reasons why they took the decisions they did.

It is grossly unfair to do anything else. For my children, above all else I wanted them to grow up feeling loved, looked after and protected from the nastiest parts of life - to enjoy that innocence and joy that is available once in a life time.
It is short lived for all of us, and yet they couldn't even manage that. It is a terrible decision to have made it so public, giving Archie no real chance now of a normal happy childhood.

You are damn right I would not want this for own children.

@mermaidsariel How would you feel Rousette if one of your children went on national TV to disparage their upbringing and complain about how things were for them if they were living in absolute luxury that their family connections had provided? Especially if one of their grandparents who had done a lot for them had just died/was dying? I bet you wouldn't welcome it.
If your daughter in law who you had tried hard to welcome in every way had rubbished your input?

One would hope normal adjusted people would not stuff their children up so that they have to resort to going on tv.

And your 'oh they were rich so he should accept what he went through and shut up' is shockingly ignorant and tone deaf, and I suggest you go look for the 'But we took you to stately homes!' thread.