Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

[quote Mummy194]@Samcro

Aren't these the 'penguins', having changed their names now to look like they are brand new.[/quote]
true. a lot are on here.

'The -trolls- anti MM's already have enough threads '

Oh do stop calling people trolls.

A couple of you posted on the well done thread about Kate's book! Perhaps you're like the Sussexes, can dish it but can't take it?

Look, if you want a thread purely to praise the Sussexes I'd suggest a blog or private IG page.

If you post on mn you will have a variety of opinions. It's the internet/freedom of speech for you, sorry.

"People come on to pick and pick at posts and go almost as far as saying you lie about stuff"

And yet, someone supporting H&M was deleted for "actually" saying another poster was lying. Their post was quoted by someone else and still stands. (To be clear, @Roussette, I'm not talking about you here. I disagree with much of what you say, but you are at least polite about it).
It's not all one-way, by any means.

But with regards to people twisting others' words, isn't that what you did, when I pointed out last night that Meghan was an actress who, by her own admission, could squeeze out of tear on demand? You said, "So because she is an actress, if ever she shows emotion, it's just acting," which is a stretch.

It's not just that though is it? There are trolls here whether you like it or not.
Someone posted some shit to me yesterday, now deleted, their history on MN tells me they have done just one post, that post to me. Is that not a troll?
If not, what is?

There are some posters on these threads who are more intent on catching out positive posters than actually having discussion.

@Roussette

Plus he seemed to rush everything through

They weren't in their 20s. It is quite normal not to have years of going out together at that stage in life. Very similar to me actually, got engaged after six months, and here we are 35 years later. KM was much younger, she had the luxury of being able to do that. I didn't, they didn't, so I get it.

Yes, but people on here keep comparing them to their own situations which are totally different and can't be compared. Yes, that happens all the time in real life but in real life you aren't about to become one of the most famous people on the planet,have your photograph taken every time you step outside, have everything you do, say, eat and wear scrutinised. You aren't entering the elite RT who are at the top of society where there are rules and traditions centuries old. The two are completely none related and a complete non argument. I am getting fed up with people trying to compare them to normal, everyday situations when it wasn't one.

Time wasn't on their side that's for sure and they probably did want to get on and start a family. But at the same time it was unfortunate it was rushed through without allowing MM to gain a better understanding of the RF and their link to the British public and what her role would be and the expectations on her. As well as the British public getting to know her and understand her. KM was well protected and had a long intro into the RF and how it works, how the press can be, the rules and hierarchy which must have helped her balance it so well. Her and W are very good at reading a audience most of the time. MM wasn't given that luxury and seemed to be thrust into this world very quickly so it's not really surprising she got things wrong and wasn't sure how it was going to work. She decided she didn't like it once she was in it rather than being allowed to observe and decide beforehand in her own time. I feel for her on that front.

I don't think it's true she didn't get the reception she wanted so ran off home. She had a very good reception to begin with by the press and the public.

What are the butchers/penguins all about?
Actually, I do vaguely recall something about penguins and Greta Thunberg, but I don't understand the butcher reference.

'We are not bigging up the Sussexes, these are actual projects and achievements they have in real life received'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/a4238580-Duchess-of-Cambridge-has-written-a-book

And yet DoC 'project' has some of you sneering.

So let's stop pretending anyone is superior here. We all have different opinions and can post where we like.

if you post on mn you will have a variety of opinions. It's the internet/freedom of speech for you, sorry.

yet you want to shut down any positivity!

there are trolls on mn, its a fact, its not troll hunting to say that. troll hunting is saying "insert name" is a troll. just stating that trolling happens is not a rule break. its a fact.

Oh please Hendricks. I thought more of you.

In amongst a big discussion about her SA comment and the emotion she showed.... you put "I think a few of you are forgetting that Meghan is a professional actress whose admitted claim to fame was to be able to squeeze out a tear on demand"

How is that a stretch? You posted that whilst we were talking about to us how she did seem emotional, upset and caught off guard.

What am I supposed to glean from your comment?

She was tearful in the interview, and you post how she is able to squeeze out a tear as we are discussing it.
NO stretch at all.

'their history on MN tells me they have done just one post, that post to me. Is that not a troll?'

Yes of course that is a troll/gf.

My point is the op seems to think anyone disagreeing with her is a Sussex troll as demonstrated by comments like this 'The -trolls- anti MM's already have enough threads'.

'yet you want to shut down any positivity!'

I don't, I'm disagreeing that is all. Look at your own comments on the DoC thread I've linked see who's 'shutting down positivity' there, hmm?

And yet DoC 'project' has some of you sneering

Not me. Brilliant book.
Wrong thread title.

However, I get accused of whataboutery continually... that's what this is.

Lucaslucas1612

I'm not comparing them to everyday people. I was only trying to illustrate that when you get to your thirties, for some (me included) you dont have the luxury to date for years and years if you perhaps want a family.

I wasn't talking about the family she was entering in to.

I did not call you a liar Rousette, but now you are accusing me of calling you a liar and repeating that as fact.

I merely pointed out that people on Twitter post stuff in places other than your feed.

We'll have to agree to differ on that, @Roussette. I think it is something to bear in mind, that's all. And I still believe that that part of the Tom Bradbury interview was ill-judged, on everyone's part, for Meghan's own sake if nothing else. Regardless of what you think of the content and how genuine her tears were (and there are many, many people world-wide who believe they weren't. I don't know), it actually made everything go downhill even faster, didn't it?

And the other part of my post? About accusations of lying? There have been some robust posts on both sides of the argument, surely you can concede?

Agree. You didn't call me a liar which is why I said to go almost as far as saying that.

You didn't believe what I was saying.

But I am not getting in to a Twitter feed discussion again.

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At least this thread is more interesting now that it has moved on from fan-girling and product promotion 🤣

Regardless of what you think of the content and how genuine her tears were (and there are many, many people world-wide who believe they weren't. I don't know)

So you did mean she was acting then!

I didn't address the other part of your post because I didn't see the post that was deleted or know who it was that was deleted for accusing of lying. So I'd be commenting on something I can't remember or wasn't sure about.

I believed you, that’s for sure.

Thank you Ocsetldil

I don't like how everything on this subject becomes so polarised, as if you "have" to be on one "side" or the other.

I don't hate the Sussexes at all. I think they have a huge amount to offer, both now and when they lived here. I look at footage of previous years when Harry used to do joint engagements with William and Kate and feel cheered by the (what I thought was) obvious warmth and affection between them all. And he was SO proud of Meghan when he first introduced her to us all, and I was pleased about that too. I think it is a huge shame that things have got to the state they have, and I am not optimistic that it can ever be truly resolved, to be honest.
But I want to be able to express my opinion on things they have done which I'm not impressed by without being collectively accused of being either a troll, a name-changer or a racist.

@JaniieJones

1. Not sure why you are linking a thread on KM on here, nobody cares.

1. Personally, I could not spend more than a handful of posts on KM because she is simply not interesting enough to me. From what I gather, a lot of people feel the same. Despite my 4 posts, someone somehow inflated those posts to mean I really dislike her, tbh I had no energy to answer that.

1. Myself and other posters were mostly there to point out that the thread was actually misinformation.

1. As evidenced, we did not spend 50+ posts each. So, no, not the same!

1. Can you stop trying to shoehorn KM into this thread. No one cares.

Someone created a new account and put in a virus link into this thread. So , yes that is deranged af.

I'm not accusing you. You've been around a while Hendricks. going from memory.
And I don't accuse everyone who is not keen on H&M as being a troll. But there are some, undoubtedly, that's all.

I think it is a huge shame that things have got to the state they have, and I am not optimistic that it can ever be truly resolved, to be honest

Reading your post, I was going to ask you what you think might happen, but you've answered it!

I suppose it depends on what you mean by 'resolve'. I think the RF are going to go through huge changes in the next decade, and I think everything will settle down, and I think (warning! unpopular opinion coming up!)
I think we will look back in 10/15 years and think what a wise move on their part leaving.

An amusing , rather truthful post.