I wonder if reconciliation is possible?

[sunnyblackwidow]

With Prince Philip now gone, the queen not as robust as she once was and grieving her loss, Prince Charles looked distraught today, Harry with a new baby on the way, memories of Diana's funeral today....I wonder if now isn't the perfect time for them to just all get together show their love for each other and clear the air (perhaps without Meghan's presence as she seems to inflame things).

I think it'll be telling how long Harry chooses to stay in the UK before he returns to the US (a clear indication of whether he's willing to hang around for a little while to mend fences or rush back home to Meghan and Oprah and Gail) I really wish the best for them all, family is everything but I'm not holding my breath.

@Lockdownbear

I don't think they'll be any real reconciliation while Harry is with Meghan.

Trust has been broken, deeply and utterly shattered, its one thing for them to apologise to each other but it will take years for trust to be regained.

I think there will be polite exchanges and talk about the weather. Presents sent to Archie and interest shown over Zoom. Nothing personal and no insights into any difficulties of any sort from the RF. That will be it.

I agree with you Lockdownbear and mermaidsariel

I agree with Lockdownbear. There will always be the threat of more Oprah.

That's what I mean they'll be polite to each other but all very superficial.
If you don't want the world to know don't tell Meghan and watch what you say to Harry incase he tells her.

They'll be treated like the village gossip. Only tell them what you want the world to know.

@StormzyinaTCup

oh come on so please tell me where the posters called "defenders" have hounded you all over the internet?

Oh come on yourself
Nowhere did I say I have been hounded all over the internet so that’s just nonsense.

people who has defended them have been.
someone disagreeing with you is not a "pile on"

And this bit is quite frankly hilarious.

I have lurked on enough RF posts recently to know the score and to see the same rose tinted posters pop up on nearly every single one and they are most definitely not up for ‘discussing’.

I don’t think it is now allowed, from a recent deletion message I saw by MNHQ, to discuss SWMNBN behaviour and the reasons that may be behind it (which my unposted post would have been about). It’s a shame because it’s shuts down debate but there you go, rules are rules.

i didn't say you had been. but I have been, so has Roussette among others. I have not seen "defenders" doing that. or piling on.

i didn't say you had been
but I have been, so has Roussette among others I have not seen "defenders" doing that. or piling on.

That’s unfortunate and certainly unnecessary but I’ll leave it there as we are going off on a slight tangent from the OPs thread title.

If you don't want the world to know don't tell Meghan and watch what you say to Harry incase he tells her.

I think that will be the case for Harry too. I don't think Harry was expecting Meghan to repeat what he had told her had been said.

Maybe, but imagine having to watch what you tell your own spouse. The person who you are supposed to be at one with.

That'd going to cause serious issues in their relationship.

It's truly shameful to watch people invent this smear narrative that Meghan is untrustworthy and runs to the press just because she gave ONE interview, openly putting giving her side of the story just once, when the BRF have been leaking every detail about her and repeating her private conversations to the press in an underhand and backstabbing way for three years.

Maybe, but imagine having to watch what you tell your own spouse. The person who you are supposed to be at one with.

Imagine not being able to tell your own father or brother anything, because you know they'll run straight to the press and repeat it.

Imagine knowing your own father has given the tabloids damaging stories about you since you were 14, just to protect your brother.

Thank god Harry has Meghan, one trustworthy person he knows he can talk to openly and without fear.

When have either Charles or William told blatant lies in a talk show?

@ohforarainyday I have asked other posters this with no response- where is the evidence that members of the royal family have repeated private conversations to the press?

Also it is not one interview is it as Gayle King told a news show that Harry spoke to his father after the interview

Also it is apparent that information was leaked to the finding freedom book.

SWMNBN

I've tried. God knows I've tried. But what is this?

before finally vanishing

ohforarainyday There's a lot of vanishing that goes on. Or namechanging. Lots and lots

I've tried. God knows I've tried. But what is this?

SWMNBN = She Who Must Not Be Named.

Reminds me a bit of a well known song by Gloria Estefan “Algorithm is gonna get you, Algorithm is gonna get you ..... “

Ahhh right. Got you. even though she is named endlessly on every thread connected to the Royals!

@ohforarainyday do not refer to me as ‘you’ - you know nothing about me

I have no idea who you are but have defended Rousette and another poster some months ago and received abuse myself- the other poster sent me a message privately to thank me

So do not assume to know anything about me thank you

Your abusive posts have been reported

The thing is ohforarainyday I'm used to it. Big time. Last year was bad, this year is better. Although I do get followed round by posters who register or NC for a week to insult me then disappear.

As I said upthread there are literally hundreds of posters who feel OK about the couple (for me, that means an imperfect couple who got out, and don't do everything right, and are sometimes idiotic but who do not deserve the level of abuse they get, especially as they are not living on the taxpayers dime, and they are trying to do some good in the world)

I've had many supportive messages, people who agree with the likes of you and me, but just can't face the threads.

@Roussette

Ahhh right. Got you. even though she is named endlessly on every thread connected to the Royals!

Your welcome

Most go ‘poof’

Some posters seem to like to shoehorn SWMNBN into every single thread about the royals even though the thread has absolutely nothing to do with her at all - it’s weird.

As I posted on another thread, I am sure she would be absolutely delighted with all the positive and glowing attention comments, she may well think she is very deserving of these, however, she is certainly not so special that she warrants a regular slot on every single royal thread - it’s very tedious.

I’m actually pretty stunned by people’s over investment in this couple. They are fairly insignificant in my day to day life. I was hoping she would be a breath of fresh air in the RF but that wasn’t to be so that was quite a disappointment.

I have my own opinion on her/them and why I think she/they are doing what they are doing but I have no intention of ramming my opinion down other posters throats and I’m certainly not interested in chasing randoms around the internet just because they have a different opinion- life’s too short.

MN is just one of many forums out there and if I was being hounded and getting abuse there is no way I’d be hanging around and I certainly wouldn’t be taking abuse on behalf of a very wealthy couple who actually couldn’t give two hoots about any of us.

Rant over

"Thank god Harry has Meghan, one trustworthy person he knows he can talk to openly and without fear."

Oh God! Now I've heard it all. If only we could all be as saintly as the kindly Meghan....

Fair enough Storm

I agree that the Gayle King thing was a horrid misstep.

Is Gayle King still on the Christmas (Holiday) card list do we think or were H&M annoyed that she repeated what Harry said?

Still on Meghan's list.

I wonder how Harry truly feels about everything.
Imagine having to face your family after they heard all that stuff getting said about them!

We do not know that anyone from the Royal Family actually did say anything racist about the colour of Archie's skin. Whoever said anything, said it to Harry, and there are disputes about when it was said - was she pregnant, before being pregnant, before being married. So far I have heard all three.
If it was a racist comment, why on earth did Harry not say something to the Royal person at the time, and why did he repeat the comment to Meghan, and did he repeat it as it was said, or change the wording, intonation, etc to make it something it wasn't?
In otherwords, it sounds as though Harry did not himself see it as racist, until repeating it to Meghan, and it was her reaction, that showed it was a racist comment.
Or maybe Harry is blowing it up, to justify his reasons for leaving.