I wonder if reconciliation is possible?

[sunnyblackwidow]

With Prince Philip now gone, the queen not as robust as she once was and grieving her loss, Prince Charles looked distraught today, Harry with a new baby on the way, memories of Diana's funeral today....I wonder if now isn't the perfect time for them to just all get together show their love for each other and clear the air (perhaps without Meghan's presence as she seems to inflame things).

I think it'll be telling how long Harry chooses to stay in the UK before he returns to the US (a clear indication of whether he's willing to hang around for a little while to mend fences or rush back home to Meghan and Oprah and Gail) I really wish the best for them all, family is everything but I'm not holding my breath.

@Viviennemary

I think he will want to come back to the UK where his life and family are.

Do you think Harry's children were immaculately conceived? That is his nuclear family now. The most important of all.

I’m no fan of MM. But perhaps how soon her returns to the US may also depend on when his second bay is due. Can you just imagine the am I being unreasonable - I’m heavily pregnant with prenatal and postnatal depression to the extent I’ve been suicidal and my DH is taking an extended trip half way across the world to see his Dad and brother. I’m I unreasonable in wanting him to come home?

@Thatwentbadly

I’m no fan of MM. But perhaps how soon her returns to the US may also depend on when his second bay is due. Can you just imagine the am I being unreasonable - I’m heavily pregnant with prenatal and postnatal depression to the extent I’ve been suicidal and my DH is taking an extended trip half way across the world to see his Dad and brother. I’m I unreasonable in wanting him to come home?

If you're the reason he was halfway across the world from his birth family to begin with, then yes, you'd be being unreasonable and unfair. Especially if the reason you picked that spot was so that you could could be near your own mother. Preventing him from spending time with his own parent would be incredibly hypocritical and selfish. Some annoyance might be justified if he'd just randomly decided that now was a good time to go back for a visit, but for a funeral? Come on.

I hope so.

Of course reconciliation is possible and I hope that it happens.

@MoChridhe

You didn't mention his son Archie. He has to go back to him. You didn't mention his job, he had to go back to that as well. How much time off do you get from your employer when there is s bereavement in your family? He hasn't the luxury like the rest of the royals who still get access to our money regardless of how much they do. He has a job to get back to unlike the others.

Not all that many businesses have a Queen's grandson as an employee, so I expect they will let him have a day or two extra off if he asks.

I think it's possible but they need to make the most of this time now when they are not thinking of their anger but their loss, and while H is away from M they can get a chance at a proper conversation without her intervention.

Obviously the divisions run deep and it won't be long til they are all feeling them again.

@Viviennemary

I think he will want to come back to the UK where his life and family are.

That's what you want him to think. HIS family are his wife and children. They come first, not the royals.

His USP is being Prince Harry, so he will have to get a few photo ops and collect a few snippets of information to satisfy Oprah and Gayle King.

I would like to think they've all made polite conversation to break the ice and that Harry will soon be on his way home to his pregnant wife - most husbands would do that and we shouldn't expect less of him. As to reconciliation, once the ice has been broken I think they'll keep in touch but I don't see the RF as the type to believe in interventions or thrashing things out - more like under the carpet and moving on! There's no reason for the brothers to be as close as they were as Harry has a different support system now so they'll meet up for the statue unveiling, etc, and just be very pleasant to each other.

I love the idea that people genuinely think Harry has the type of job you have to turn up to on a Monday morning and fill in a timesheet. He's getting paid to lend his title to a corporate coaching company, which in turn gets paid by companies who want to avoid any allegations of a toxic work environment leading to successful lawsuits.

i dont know if i would be able to do polite conversation in that situation. the insults were not small. i would ignore he is there.

@bluebell34567

i dont know if i would be able to do polite conversation in that situation. the insults were not small. i would ignore he is there.

Really? You would ignore your own child? Fascinating.

I think that Harry will be permanently estranged from the Royal Family. He'll lead a new life similar to Edward 8th and Wallis did post-abdication, probably just back for funerals.
It's the book, the interview, the leaking of family conversations... this is a family who value discretion and he has betrayed their trust.

They aren't normal people...

Has anyone considered that none of them are quite a stupid as they look, and all of this is engineered for public consumption. The entire idea of a royal family is an anachronism, and one that was rapidly going out of fashion (and attention). Now you have your very own upper crust Eastenders; and there has never been so much interest in them. They may not be relevant in 2021, but they are certainly in the headlines almost every day, usually for something that is more soap opera than monarchy.

No Moondust, not buying that at all.

AccidentallyOnPurpose not my child, my brother.

@Billandben444

I would like to think they've all made polite conversation to break the ice and that Harry will soon be on his way home to his pregnant wife - most husbands would do that and we shouldn't expect less of him. As to reconciliation, once the ice has been broken I think they'll keep in touch but I don't see the RF as the type to believe in interventions or thrashing things out - more like under the carpet and moving on! There's no reason for the brothers to be as close as they were as Harry has a different support system now so they'll meet up for the statue unveiling, etc, and just be very pleasant to each other.

I agree that polite conversation may have been all that was exchanged and maybe all that was needed for now. Something to break the ice as you said. I'm sure that he'll be on his way home to his pregnant wife very soon but she seems to have a strong support system at home including her mother, neighbours, many friends and no doubt some excellent staff to provide practical support with Archie and pregnancy. I think that given the significant changes and rifts in the past year, Meghan has enough support at home to justify Harry spending an additional few days in England trying to reconcile with his father and brother. Especially given that part of that move away from England was to increase Meghan's support system and bring her closer to her mother. Non-nuclear family is important and especially in a family with unusual circumstances such as Harry and William. Only they can understand what each other went through after Diana's death and having such a public childhood. They may have different support systems now but I think that there is always a good reason for them to be close. Marriage and children don't have to mean that prior supports are unnecessary (I don't mean to imply that you think they are superfluous) and they can still offer a great deal to each other. My brother and I are still very close and supportive in adulthood which may partly be due to difficult childhood circumstances. I would be very surprised if most wives didn't encourage their husband to stay an extra few days and invest time to heal fractured relationships with close family members. I would encourage this rather than wanting my husband to rush back. His extended support system and mental health are also important. Meghan seems well enough supported at home for this to be possible. Hopefully things between the brothers are much stronger by the statue unveiling!

The mind boggles

I can't imagine there was anything more than polite small talk between H and W or any of the RF with H at the funeral.
The RF pride themselves in staying quiet and private and what H and M did was unforgivable. I can't imagine it will be forgiven or forgotten this quickly. He has made his bed with M and now will have to lie in it, I wonder whether he will have any regrets in time...

He was there for nearly a week before the funeral, they were hardly going to talk about anything whilst walking out of the church! I'm sure there was ample opportunity for the family to talk.

@Roussette

He was there for nearly a week before the funeral, they were hardly going to talk about anything whilst walking out of the church! I'm sure there was ample opportunity for the family to talk.

Agree with this! And further up thread that the Royals are not the type to sit and thrash it out- more gradual and polite conversations and hope it all goes away. If Harry doesn't go back to Meghan ASAP he Meghan will be vilified and haters will jump on this as cracks in their marriage. His purpose here is for the funeral and see family where and if possible. If they want to talk they can by phone and video phone. And Harry can see them again when Restrictions permit or Willy could always visit Harry- he doesn't have to stay with them. I'm sure Harry is happy to be here for his grandfather's funeral but really can't wait to get back to his wife and son!

I wrote quite a long post but decided against posting it for various reasons.

There may be a reconciliation there may not.

The royal family will know exactly how to handle this and any subsequent ‘issues’.

For anyone concerned about MM she will be just fine both now and in the future. I wish Harry the best of luck with whatever life challenges come his way.

@Roussette

He was there for nearly a week before the funeral, they were hardly going to talk about anything whilst walking out of the church! I'm sure there was ample opportunity for the family to talk.

I bet they met up before the funeral. I wouldn't be surprised if they said, let's make sure the press see us making small talk blah blah....there probably wasn't even a rift to start with!!

I share your opinion Beamine.