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The royal family

I wonder if reconciliation is possible?

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sunnyblackwidow · 17/04/2021 20:20

With Prince Philip now gone, the queen not as robust as she once was and grieving her loss, Prince Charles looked distraught today, Harry with a new baby on the way, memories of Diana's funeral today....I wonder if now isn't the perfect time for them to just all get together show their love for each other and clear the air (perhaps without Meghan's presence as she seems to inflame things).

I think it'll be telling how long Harry chooses to stay in the UK before he returns to the US (a clear indication of whether he's willing to hang around for a little while to mend fences or rush back home to Meghan and Oprah and Gail) I really wish the best for them all, family is everything but I'm not holding my breath.

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derxa · 19/04/2021 18:01

Harry needs to apologise to his entire family for that interview. It was a disgrace. Then some sort of reconciliation can take place.

Jacopo · 19/04/2021 18:09

I hope H and M stay in the USA and that we hear a lot less about them.

Roussette · 19/04/2021 18:17

Well, they live there, so you have your wish. As for hearing a lot less about them, that is in the hands of the press and the likes of the DM who seem incapable of letting up.

cyclingmad · 19/04/2021 18:36

@derxa

Harry needs to apologise to his entire family for that interview. It was a disgrace. Then some sort of reconciliation can take place.
Lol good thing he doesn't take orders from you. Like wtaf. Who are to tell him what to do.
Maggiesfarm · 19/04/2021 18:58

Maybe they need to apologise to him!

I expect they will meet in the middle.

AlfonsoTheTerrible · 19/04/2021 19:09

No, I don't think reconciliation is in the immediate future.

Lauren15 · 19/04/2021 21:12

@Billandben444

I would like to think they've all made polite conversation to break the ice and that Harry will soon be on his way home to his pregnant wife - most husbands would do that and we shouldn't expect less of him. As to reconciliation, once the ice has been broken I think they'll keep in touch but I don't see the RF as the type to believe in interventions or thrashing things out - more like under the carpet and moving on! There's no reason for the brothers to be as close as they were as Harry has a different support system now so they'll meet up for the statue unveiling, etc, and just be very pleasant to each other.
This is exactly how I see it playing out too.
adrianmolesmole · 19/04/2021 21:31

@StormzyinaTCup

I wrote quite a long post but decided against posting it for various reasons.

There may be a reconciliation there may not.

The royal family will know exactly how to handle this and any subsequent ‘issues’.

For anyone concerned about MM she will be just fine both now and in the future. I wish Harry the best of luck with whatever life challenges come his way.

What a boring post. I would like to have read what you really wanted to say!
derxa · 19/04/2021 22:04

What a boring post. I would like to have read what you really wanted to say! She probably doesn't want a nasty pile on from the usual suspects.

StormzyinaTCup · 19/04/2021 22:26

She probably doesn't want a nasty pile on from the usual suspects.

Your right derxa Smile

As much as I would like to post it, I have neither the time or the inclination at the moment to deal with a pile on by those who have their rose tinted specs on.

adrianmolesmole Don’t worry I have saved it, you’ll just have to wait a bit longer Wink

CallmeHendricks · 19/04/2021 22:27

I don't think there will be the kind of reconciliation whereby they revert to their old camaraderie. Too much damage has been done - seemingly since Harry met Meghan (and that's not to cast blame her way; it's not unusual for people's priorities and existing friendships and support networks to alter when a new life partner comes onto the scene).
They may agree to disagree and settle on an uneasy truce. Harry will return to the US, pop back to the UK in the future for high days and holidays, but he will forge a new life over there with little meaningful contact with his roots here.
And the RF will adapt and move on without him.
I do think it's a crying shame, because H&M could have been such an asset to the Firm, but that ship has well and truly sailed.

mermaidsariel · 19/04/2021 22:47

Charles has gone to his Welsh home to be on his own apparently. There are reports that he and William spent some time in the grounds of Windsor talking to Harry but they didn’t make much headway. Some reports Harry is staying for theQueens birthday, others that he’s going back tomorrow. Who knows? It doesn’t look like things will be healed anytime soon. Harry doesn’t appear to want to put the time and effort in to resolve things. He’s trashed the whole family publicly and embarrassed his brother and father. I really can’t see there’s a way back unless Harry wakes up and realised how he’s hurting everyone around him and trashing his family.
Charles looks utterly devastated. He’s lost his father and his son. I’m sure he feels that his mother will need his help and support far more in the next few years. He will then have the burden of Kingship to shoulder as an elderly, and probably not very well man.

Viviennemary · 19/04/2021 23:04

We need a public apology.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 20/04/2021 00:26

@CallmeHendricks

I don't think there will be the kind of reconciliation whereby they revert to their old camaraderie. Too much damage has been done - seemingly since Harry met Meghan (and that's not to cast blame her way; it's not unusual for people's priorities and existing friendships and support networks to alter when a new life partner comes onto the scene). They may agree to disagree and settle on an uneasy truce. Harry will return to the US, pop back to the UK in the future for high days and holidays, but he will forge a new life over there with little meaningful contact with his roots here. And the RF will adapt and move on without him. I do think it's a crying shame, because H&M could have been such an asset to the Firm, but that ship has well and truly sailed.
Yes I agree with this really. I think they will probably be polite when they meet but how could any of the RF really trust Harry not to leak any conversations to the media? (Or more likely tell Meghan who will tell one of her friends working in the media.)
QueenOfTheDoubleWide · 20/04/2021 00:36

@mermaidsariel

Charles has gone to his Welsh home to be on his own apparently. There are reports that he and William spent some time in the grounds of Windsor talking to Harry but they didn’t make much headway. Some reports Harry is staying for theQueens birthday, others that he’s going back tomorrow. Who knows? It doesn’t look like things will be healed anytime soon. Harry doesn’t appear to want to put the time and effort in to resolve things. He’s trashed the whole family publicly and embarrassed his brother and father. I really can’t see there’s a way back unless Harry wakes up and realised how he’s hurting everyone around him and trashing his family. Charles looks utterly devastated. He’s lost his father and his son. I’m sure he feels that his mother will need his help and support far more in the next few years. He will then have the burden of Kingship to shoulder as an elderly, and probably not very well man.
It could be total rubbish but, apparently, Charles insisted he and William met Harry together "to avoid any possibility of being misquoted". I can't say I blame him after all the inaccuracies in the Oprah interview but, if that is true, it suggests a breach of trust that will not be healed easily
HeddaGarbled · 20/04/2021 00:43

We need a public apology

Not gonna happen, from either side.

This is it, I reckon, stilted exchanges at Christmas and birthdays and family events, maybe a half-arsed reconciliation when one of them’s dying.

Not unusual for families to experience rifts like this, unusual for them to play out so publicly.

Harry and William will be just fine, they’ve each got their wives and families and suck-ups.

Charles though ☹️

Maggiesfarm · 20/04/2021 03:59

@Viviennemary

We need a public apology.
'We'? For what? They haven't done anything to me, I don't know about you.
didofido · 20/04/2021 05:51

" Harry has a different support system now"

Really?! Not how I would have described his situation.

Beamine · 20/04/2021 06:33

I honestly think MM and H thought the interview would go in their favour and that they would receive a lot more support than they did. I think they thought that it would launch their popularity and everyone would turn against the 'institution' a bit like what happend when Diana told all. I think they've realised now how popular the royal family are.

For me personally I sympathised with them BEFORE the interview, could totally understand why they wanted a life away especially after Harry's personal experience with the media. I think they probably realise now what a mistake the interview was.

BlackCatShadow · 20/04/2021 06:42

According to a tabloid who employed a lip reader it was just polite chit chat after the wedding about the funeral. It seemed most of the family ignored Harry and I thought he seemed nervous and fidgety. Well, it was going to be awkward, he called his family racist. I don’t really see how he can come back from that. I think William and Charles are very focused on the future of the monarchy and I don’t think they see Harry as part of the equation. Maybe things will get better with time, but I get the impression Meghan doesn’t want to return to the UK any time soon.

Lauren15 · 20/04/2021 07:10

We have no evidence to show they regret their interview. After all, it generated lots of sympathy with certain audiences in the US.

BalloonSlayer · 20/04/2021 07:33

I think "we're on different paths" just means: we were brought up as equals by loving parents but in the last ten years William has been ushered down the road of: future kingship, seem to behave appropriately, perfect wife and kids, media will be silenced in case of any imperfections spotted, endless cash, glittering future. Harry has been pointed down the road of redundancy (no longer the spare), not needed so much, no real protection from media, any poor behaviour highlighted, much less cash, yes why don't you earn your own money it's not like you're going to be King, but no you can't earn it like that.

And I say that as someone who doesn't feel particularly sorry for Harry. But they are like two actors and friends who were in a popular series, one went on to Hollywood stardom, the other left behind.

(Thinking Simon Pegg and Jessica Hynes)

SaintReatham · 20/04/2021 07:39

I hope there will be a reconciliation, as far as it's possible, but both sides are going to have to stop briefing to the press. Today 'a close Royal source' reveals Harry sent Charles a 'deeply personal letter' as there was no other way of reaching him. Tomorrow another 'close Royal source' will probably reveal William tried to text Harry but he's flounced from the Windsor Massive WhatsApp group. Just stop, ffs. Wash your dirty linen in private.

Radziwill · 20/04/2021 08:15

How much influence do the royals actually have over the media? Take the stories about Kate playing peacemaker for William and Harry, for example. Do they bribe them to write that sort of thing? Do they offer photo opportunities and suchlike if they write flattering stories about them?

mermaidsariel · 20/04/2021 08:30

I agree that they thought the interview would garner them a lot of sympathy and positive publicity which would equate to lots of money in the bank. They only seem to be interested in money and raising their profile in any way they can, and hang anyone who stands in their way.
Harry has literally sold his family down the river.

I think H won’t realise what mistakes he has made till much later . Maybe when Charles dies, not having had an opportunity to know Harry’s children or see his son in a meaningful way for years. Maybe when the Queen dies . I feel he is very emotionally immature and not very bright.
The RF will carry on and close ranks. The losers in the end will be Harry and his children.

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