To wonder why Harry doesn't drop his titles now he's free of The Firm

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He and Meghan wanted the freedom to earn their own money and good luck to them there. He's confirmed two new roles and his new employers are introducing him as "Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex".

For his self respect, why doesn't he ask to be called Harry Wales or Harry Mountbatten Windsor. Then he'd know he's being hired for his skills rather than being used for his royal connections.

I think now might be the right time to drop all titles, and be free as he has coveted many times. It looks quite frankly ridiculous to be in the 'real' world with a name like Prince Harry. He needs to just be plain Harry Markle from now on, as he looks desperate and sad to hold on to something he is no longer part of.

He needs to just be plain Harry Markle from now on

Why would he be Harry Markle and take his wife's name? Why not Harry Windsor or whatever it is?
And we don't actually know he is hanging on to it do we? Personally I think removing anything sets a precedent and shines a big light on Andrew. And the Queen doesn't want that, given he is favourite sprog.

As soon as Harry was stripped of his military patronages, there was press saying... hang on, what about Andrew? This would happen even more with removing the Prince bit, even though he is still Duke of York. Andrew must be delighted this has all happened... spotlight neatly averted.

Personally I don't care either way whether he is Prince or not... the majority of people know who they are and there is no getting away from that unless they get new faces and move to the Amazon jungle perhaps

He could be Harry Sussex for work I think, the same as Beatrice York & Eugenie York in their work capacity. Everyone knows who they are but it keeps us plebs happy.

It’s going to be incredibly difficult for PC to not bestow the Sussex children the title of Prince and Princess. The US will likely round on the RF if that were to happen.

Apart from the obvious of trading on his name, Harry stopped using his title would be giving a green light to his father he was ok for his dcs to not be Prince and Princess.

And if the Queen doesn't want that because of the light it shines on Andrew?
Maybe it isn't Harry's choice

@sashh
Diana on marriage was HRH Princess of Wales (Camilla holds it now). When Diana divorced they dropped the HRH and restyled it as Diana Princess of Wales.

William and Harry's birth certificates they are Prince William/ Henry (couple of other middle names) of Wales.

So I don't think they can strip him of the Prince Henry .....of Wales but I'd think they could strip him of the Duke of Sussex. I don't think it has been done before but I'm sure they could do it.

@Lockdownbear

What I meant to say, lying not getting your facts straight is deceitful.

The Queen has never tried to deceive.

What about secretly getting the goverment change to law to hide how rich she is Queen lobbied to hide 'embarrasing' private wealth? That seems pretty duplicitous to me and far more serious than rather sweetly calling your private exchange of vows your real wedding.

The press print frothy spite about H&M as a smokescreen for genuine corruption and posters lap it up. Bread and circuses.

@Mummyoflittledragon

It’s going to be incredibly difficult for PC to not bestow the Sussex children the title of Prince and Princess. The US will likely round on the RF if that were to happen.

Apart from the obvious of trading on his name, Harry stopped using his title would be giving a green light to his father he was ok for his dcs to not be Prince and Princess.

I think that’s massively overestimating the US’s interest in and influence on the Royal Family.

The Press would have nothing to print if they shut up and went about their business quietly, instead of moaning and whining about their lot and preaching to the plebs. They want the Press to be talking about them, it suits their purposes.

I know the Daily Mail is frowned upon here ( and it does print a lot of nonsense) however Jan Moir is on top form today !

I doubt they want the likes of the gutter press over here talking about them. That is why they left.

I will now link an article just written that I would love those that feel very aggrieved about them to read.

Here

26 Stories That Show How The Palace Press Team Defended Kate Middleton Vs. Meghan Markle

There's a big explanation of what the article is about at the beginning and if you scroll down there are headlines and details of stories in the Press and whether Kensington Palace commented. Or declined to comment.

Bottom line... if it was negative press about Kate, it was swiftly rebutted by Kensington Palace with an official statement.
If it was Meghan it was this "Kensington Palace declined to comment on the criticism.”

If it had been me, I would have buggered off to the States too.

I wonder if any of the detractors will actually read this article top to bottom?
Because I have found that anything I link of this nature is normally ignored or denied even when it is factual like this article.

I might be linking this a few times on MN.

Is it possible to believe that and still be a detractor - or do we have to pick one side and become completely rabid about it and hysterical.

They have still behaved badly in my view. Have they come out to say anything about death threats to the Duchess of Cambridge from their supporters?

Nishky of course not! I have said a million times on here that there are some really sensible middle of the road posters who really talk sense and I agree with lots of what they say!

I can't find anything on death threats to DoC, is that new? I have looked and can't see anything.

'I'll also find it odd that two people who profess to want nothing more than global love, peace and harmony have caused so much global hatred, discord and hurt'

Yes it is fascinating isn't it, they seem to thrive on dishing their dirt/truth. They once said 'love always wins', just not apparently with their own families.

I find that it's the Press who have caused so much global hatred, discord and hurt.
I doubt very much they thrive on dishing the dirt. I think they felt they had no option because they weren't protected or helped by the Palace (see link above)

'find that it's the Press who have caused so much global hatred, discord and hurt'

Their 2 hour awful Oprah whinge was not the press. They did exactly the same thing as Thomas Markle and look how horrified H&M were about that. Private family issues should be discussed privately.

Why is it ok for them to air their grievances but not her father?

I think that Buzzfeed article is deliberately disingenuous.

Take the Kate 'baby botox' article, which is often provided as an example of when Kensington Palace (KP) treated the Duchess of Cambridge and Duchess of Sussex differently.

A clinic close to KP posted an advertisement for botox using Kate's face, saying that she'd had botox following the birth of prince Louis. It heavily implied that she was a client of that clinic. KP issued a statement and the advert was withdrawn.

An advertisement appeared in the same year for diet pills, this time using a picture of the Duchess of Sussex. KP issued a very similarly worded statement and the advert was withdrawn.

In this particular case, both women were treated equally.

As it's been said numerous times, KP cannot and will not deny stories they know to be true. Perhaps that's a reason why certain stories receive 'no comment' responses.

'think that Buzzfeed article is deliberately disingenuous.'

Yes I would imagine of the thousands of articles they'd be just as many 'no comments' regarding the Cambridges. If you want to 'prove' something then of course you are selective with what you quote.

It is such a sad, pathetic situation. At least Harry has got some employment but sadly I expect this will lead to more and sanctimonious speeches from him. Just go, be happy and fgs stfu.

If they don't want unfair scrutiny they should stop encouraging it.

I only got as far as the tiaras on the Buzzfeed.
Meghan wanted the tiara with the green emeralds, which Eugenie had already picked for her wedding, she seems to like up staging Eugenie. However Meghan was told no it wasn't available.

It's worth reading the whole article actually.

I have read the article.

My opinion on this sorry pair has not changed.

As said, my last little shred of sympathy went awol after that interview.

I simply found some of the claims a little too difficult to believe.

They could have had the world at their feet. They chose to stamp on it instead.

If you read No Comment to mean there's possibly some truth in it or we can't hand on heart deny it.

Like the Me-gain comment KP said No Comment.
Seriously how can the people at the top honestly deny what is being said about them out of earshot?

Think about it in any workplace or even a school, people at the bottom often have names for those at the top. Those at the top may or may not have heard a rumour, but it can only be a rumour as nobody will be daft enough to say them to their faces.

Catetown
Perhaps he should be Harry Markle?

Yes! He fancies himself as a woke bro so should be Mr Harry Markle.

Please explain what a woke bro is?

Isn't his title Henry, Duke of Sussex, or Prince Harry? I don't think it's usual to use both titles together. Probably makes him sound even more important in L.A.

@Oldbutstillgotit

I know the Daily Mail is frowned upon here ( and it does print a lot of nonsense) however Jan Moir is on top form today !

Do you have a link please?