Harry appointed senior exec at $1bn startup

[porcelaine]

Just seen that Harry has been appointed Chief Impact Officer at a billion dollar valued Silicon Valley startup.
This feels so unfair. I know people who have worked for years first qualifying then gaining experience in their field, without a hope of a job like this. Harry of the 2 A levels and zero formal work experience outside of the army. He can bleat about the hardships of privilege all he wants but he’d never get near a job like this as a private “normal” citizen.

Those little children, what a burden all of this is. I'm sure W&K are doing their utmost trying to make it as normal a childhood as it can be, given the circs.. but with every new generation it just gets worse and worse.

I think Royals should only marry other royals. It would save all this stuff. Every single one of Queen's DCs has divorced except Edward. So there must be huge pressures apart from just falling out with each other.
That used to be the way it was done. If George was my son I would be sussing out every single other female born from now on, and a child now in any other european royal house and hoping George might click with one of them!

At one point the Royals only did marry other Royals, in what was basically arranged marriages. Hence HMQ and PP are distant cousins. Both descended from Queen Victoria.

Charles was definitely an arranged marriage to Diana, they'd met 6 or 7 times before engagement, wtf were her family thinking?
He's been married to Camilla for years and they seem very strong together.

Andrew and Fergie still live in the same house, so should probably been left alone to solve their own issues.

Anne - who knows what went wrong but has since been married for 20 odd years.

The Royals have learned from the mistakes of the past hence Waity Katie, Sophie also waited a while, Harry's previous girlfriends were either short lived or decided Royal life wasn't for them.

All these posts about "why couldn't Meghan see a therapist?" that's not what she was saying. She said she wanted to go somewhere, so somewhere residential. (I can't help imagining a specific retreat recommended by friends, probably in sunny California to recharge her exhausted batteries , get some peace and quiet, and sun, AND therapy too.) This wasn't 'allowed' because her unhappiness would be obvious. How the RF looks was clearly more important to it than the mental health of one if its members.

She might have thought, "well what if I just GO?" But she couldn't because people would have wanted to know what her plans were before giving her back her passport. And it's in that situation where the not having access to your own passport thing starts to feel sinister, even though in normal circumstances it isn't really.

I know I am guessing a lot here but I think it's important to see the difference between "not allowed to see a therapist," which people are scoffing at, which is NOT what she said, and going to stay somewhere for help, which IS what she said.

I'm sure she could have had time off to GO somewhere if she wanted, ill health, pregnancy issues, exhaustion, homesick, RF are good at hiding stuff when they want to.

The issue seems to be more who was going to authorise it (pay for it). Nothing to stop Harry or Meghan putting their hand in their own pocket.

These clinics can be discreet when they want to be. The RF could also insist on them being discreet.

At one point the Royals only did marry other Royals, in what was basically arranged marriages. Hence HMQ and PP are distant cousins. Both descended from Queen Victoria

Speaking of...

www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/study-finds-link-between-how-inbred-a-monarch-is-and-how-well-they-rule/

The authorising is not about the money. It's about doing what the RF says. Like when they told everyone not to talk to the media because she will be 'protected'.

She needed to see someone who is approved by the RF, that is what PC, W and H did. Nothing was going to come out. l

I think they were still grabbing at straws at this point, thinking that the RF is on their side. Not realising that things had completely gone all the way to sh*t at that point. Natural denial when you are abused. It's been going on for a long time, but you still hold out hope.

@BalloonSlayer

All these posts about "why couldn't Meghan see a therapist?" that's not what she was saying. She said she wanted to go somewhere, so somewhere residential. (I can't help imagining a specific retreat recommended by friends, probably in sunny California to recharge her exhausted batteries , get some peace and quiet, and sun, AND therapy too.) This wasn't 'allowed' because her unhappiness would be obvious. How the RF looks was clearly more important to it than the mental health of one if its members.

She might have thought, "well what if I just GO?" But she couldn't because people would have wanted to know what her plans were before giving her back her passport. And it's in that situation where the not having access to your own passport thing starts to feel sinister, even though in normal circumstances it isn't really.

I know I am guessing a lot here but I think it's important to see the difference between "not allowed to see a therapist," which people are scoffing at, which is NOT what she said, and going to stay somewhere for help, which IS what she said.

So she basically wanted a holiday in the sun then? Maybe with special smoothies and clean food? I doubt a week in a spa, even with therapists would have been of much long term use.

The authorising is not about the money. It's about doing what the RF says. Like when they told everyone not to talk to the media because she will be 'protected'.

That’s PR, and maybe also security, and it will have come from their own aides, not from the Queen.

Even if they were trying to stop her from checking into The Priory or something, there is no way they would tell a suicidal Duchess that she couldn’t have any treatment. The discussion was probably about which treatment, where, and how to protect her from the added pressure of press camped round the clinic.

It would have come from the courtiers and advisers.

She was told she could not get therapy.

@Mummy195

It would have come from the courtiers and advisers.

She was told she could not get therapy.

Aides, courtiers, advisers. Not much of a distinction between them. The point is it would have been their own staff, tasked with looking after them.

Why would she be the only member of the family not allowed therapy? It sounds as though it was a specific programme or clinical they were advising against.

She could easily have had phone therapy or discreet visits. Even a team at home. The issue must have been distinct from that.

@Ritascornershop

I’d have so much more respect for the lot of them if even one of them got a proper job. Became a nurse or a vet or an accountant or ... something! At least William had a proper job for a bit, but wouldn’t it be nice if a younger royal had a job that normal non-aristos have?

Princess Anne has HGV license :-)

Princess Anne has HGV license :-)

Seriously?
I'm guessing it's for driving horse boxes.

The Queen had time in a branch of the army when she learned to do car mechanics.

They have nearly all had time in the military at some point.

@RickiTarr

You are surely aware that SR and others do not have any autonomy, right? Everything has to go through BP.

That is why H&M staff were so frustrated. Only BP, CH and KP are allowed direct communication outside. Everyone else has to go through BP.

What does communications have to do with arranging a therapist to come to Frogmore Cotrage?

@Mummy195

It would have come from the courtiers and advisers.

She was told she could not get therapy.

I think that she requested inpatient care ie the Priory or similar, I'm sure there was mention in the interview of her wanting to get away.

[quote Mummy195]@RickiTarr

You are surely aware that SR and others do not have any autonomy, right? Everything has to go through BP.

That is why H&M staff were so frustrated. Only BP, CH and KP are allowed direct communication outside. Everyone else has to go through BP.[/quote]
There is NO WAY that all personal stuff goes through BP. Think of the affairs (Camilla, James Hewitt, Andrew Parker Bowles, Rodsy Llewelyn, assorted police protection officers, Oliver Hoare, that lovely surgeon...), the bad choices (Nazi uniforms & Las Vegas naked partying, drugs), the shady friends, the dodgy media interviews (Fake Sheikh, Diana on Panorama etc) that has gone on through the past three generations of royals. You think any of that went through the Queen’s office office for approval?!

Of course it didn’t. These people are adults with personal lives, a lot of autonomy, the ability to do big things in secret. They don’t run everything past Granny.

Obviously Meg feels that there was something specific she wanted in the way of treatment that her staff were trying to stop her doing for whatever reason. Obviously she is used to being an independent woman without advisers. Obviously she was mentally distressed at that point and felt suffocated. Which can’t have been fun for her.

It doesn’t amount to “She was told she could not get therapy” or “Everything (even medical choices) goes through BP“ though.

That’s a hugely different interpretation, though, and not believable. Employees do not try to tip their suicidal employers over the edge.

@LittleBearPad

What does communications have to do with arranging a therapist to come to Frogmore Cotrage?

It doesn’t.

If she’d been wanting to check into the Priory or Betty Ford or something, they would have been trying to prevent the news getting out and the clinic being swarmed with paps on ladders. So comms and security staff would give an opinion on that, wouldn’t they? Plus there’s be concern she didn’t need the added pressure of a media storm.

A therapist visiting her, phone therapy, her visiting a therapist, (all of which we know royals have done before), even a team of psych nurses in rotation at Frogmore would have been easy to arrange and arrange in secrecy.

Obviously, I am not referring to leaks and 'royal source' information. I am referring to official statements. Which can be denied or not.

Therefore if something is said about H&M or others, officially, only BP will either deny or confirm or say 'no comment' - they did the last a lot for her specifically. Remember the parking lot debacle.

That is why they would have to tell BP everything that they are doing, so they know how to respond, most likely ask for permission / 'advice'.

If the so called private therapy takes place on their own accord and the media asks the palace, then BP would say 'no comment', and all her personal thoughts would have been splashed all over the place.

However, from what we have seen, a 'royal source' would have leaked that information to the papers in the first place. They already leaked that MM had MH issues. I guess they were hoping that she takes her own private person, they leak it, then they could wash their hands off it, what they did not count on was that H would take her away from it all.

If the so called private therapy takes place on their own accord and the media asks the palace, then BP would say 'no comment', and all her personal thoughts would have been splashed all over the place.

This literally makes no sense. You really are grasping at straws now. How would anyone barring Meghan and the therapist know what they discussed?

@Mummy195

Obviously, I am not referring to leaks and 'royal source' information. I am referring to official statements. Which can be denied or not. Therefore if something is said about H&M or others, officially, only BP will either deny or confirm or say 'no comment' - they did the last a lot for her specifically. Remember the parking lot debacle.

That is why they would have to tell BP everything that they are doing, so they know how to respond, most likely ask for permission / 'advice'.

If the so called private therapy takes place on their own accord and the media asks the palace, then BP would say 'no comment', and all her personal thoughts would have been splashed all over the place.

However, from what we have seen, a 'royal source' would have leaked that information to the papers in the first place. They already leaked that MM had MH issues. I guess they were hoping that she takes her own private person, they leak it, then they could wash their hands off it, what they did not count on was that H would take her away from it all.

They don’t tell BP everything they do. They just don’t.

Obviously if a problem crops up or a difficult news story threatens to break, the individual royal “households” such as Charles’ office or the Cambridges’ office or the Sussex’s office, might then inform BP about what’s up. To coordinate response. But that’s just when things are going south.

Otherwise healthcare, personal stuff etc doesn’t go through BP.

Can you imagine what Princess Diana’s story would have been if it did? Completely different.

Given the amount of secrecy about Archie’s birth, I’m sure they could have successfully arranged help for M.

Uhmm,...........I don't know, let's see

The same way that Dan Wotton knew that H&M were stepping down before they announced it. The same way they never issued a statement that they were going to EJ's house and how. The same way that H&M never announced that MM had MH issues, and yet it was reported by The Times back in Jan 2020. How JK complained about a bullying report that was never announced. Loads and loads of examples, take your pick.

Just last week, a Private Investigator apologised to MM for spying and hacking on her for The Sun. Going through her social security details etc. But they found no dirt though.

@Lauren15

Given the amount of secrecy about Archie’s birth, I’m sure they could have successfully arranged help for M.

What was secret about Archie's birth? It was well publicised once Archie was born.

Not much 'secrecy' around Archie's birth though was there.

She was in labour and a few hours later gave birth. There was no prolonged secret of him hidden somewhere. Unless you know different.

The media portrayed it as 'secrecy'.

@Mummy195

Not much 'secrecy' around Archie's birth though was there.

She was in labour and a few hours later gave birth. There was no prolonged secret of him hidden somewhere. Unless you know different.

The media portrayed it as 'secrecy'.

They announced she was in labour when Archie had been born hours earlier.