Harry appointed senior exec at $1bn startup

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Just seen that Harry has been appointed Chief Impact Officer at a billion dollar valued Silicon Valley startup.
This feels so unfair. I know people who have worked for years first qualifying then gaining experience in their field, without a hope of a job like this. Harry of the 2 A levels and zero formal work experience outside of the army. He can bleat about the hardships of privilege all he wants but he’d never get near a job like this as a private “normal” citizen.

For PC, H and W the approval was signed off that they could see a therapist, but not for her.

I’m sure they don’t need a therapist ‘signing off’.

They had the money, if Harry booked her a therapist then drove her to see them, what are they going to do? The whole ‘she wasn’t allowed to see a therapist’ only works if you believe they were physically kept in Frogmore Cottage against their will and were prevented from leaving.

Which would be most at odds with the fact Meghan jetted to USA for her baby shower (despite allegedly having her passport confiscated by RF), had her A-listed friends over to visit, was allowed to choose her own hospital for the birth, complained that they were left to drift at sea with no guidance or input from the RF etc.

I think they have taken minor passing comments and stretched them beyond all recognition - it wouldn’t surprise me if someone said to Harry, ‘Ok book her a therapist but be very discreet otherwise the press will find out’ and they took that to mean ‘this is embarrassing for the firm’.

It isn’t a reasonable job as it is akin to military service and why the role is respected.

The don’t actually have royal blood. Anyone can do the job if committed and prepared. So our country currently prefers the continuity a RF represent. So once left the role then not respected for the military style commitment to their country, we know it is difficult. The army general being saluted or the queen being bowed to etc are the same thing, it is honouring the position not the individual.

Harry thinks his blood actually makes him special. He isn’t, the commitment to the job is respected not the individual.

It is a job prepared for over a long period of time.

He is the equivalent of a roadie that toured with take that ten years ago, good stories for a bit but they get old quickly.

He left because he wants to feel important and he didn’t feel that due to line of succession.

If they had treated MM like Sophie, for example, I believe she would have coped.

Sophie may just have felt that she was happier to ride it out and take the deal.

I agree that racism wouldn’t have been a factor for Sophie, but regardless of whether anyone on this thread watched Suits, it was successful in the US and MM did have enough media presence to do whatever it was she was doing for the UN. I think she had more to lose than Sophie.

Also by the time he got married Edward was already quite far down the pecking order. There was never the same buzz about the wedding.

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy and @MrsTreglowan

Dan Wotton was dragged all over tweeter. He pretended to care when he was the one at the forefront of bullying. The Sun even erased some articles after CF death, but tweeters always have receipts.

I would if I could.

Something just doesn't add up. She announces she's feeling suicidal just as they are getting ready to go to a work function, says she can't be left alone.

He's committed to the function can't not go.

Options leave her with staff and make excuses or take her to the function.

They went to the function.
What happened before and after, was she feeling suicidal earlier in the day, what about the next day?

Did either of them seek help the next day?

He holds power and they both have cash. Why didn't they do something even if they didn't want to tell his family?

@RickiTarr

If you want to know more on Andrew, his Wiki page is a complete eye opener. Of interest are the headings 'Corruption and Kazaksthan' and 'Arms Sales' and 'Questionable Language'
There's a big hush up on the legal case where he is being sued for £6.7M over the Swiss chalet. Perhaps the Queen has paid it off

What a load of crap. She’s an American actress. No one would bat an eyelid if she saw a therapist. It’s pretty much expected!

It isn’t a reasonable job as it is akin to military service and why the role is respected.

I agree that the Queen sees it as a duty rather than a job, and in that sense it is like military service. However that is where it ends.

People in military service are respected for being prepared to die for their country. The extended Royal Family just does PR. It’s basically like being a football mascot, but you can’t remove the costume.

This is how she highlight that she was treated differently to everyone else. For PC, H and W the approval was signed off that they could see a therapist, but not for her.

You might be right, but what could she do? Take it to an industrial tribunal? Campaign for the Queen to be voted out at the next election? That isn’t how royalty works.

@Lockdownbear

It sometimes is honestly not as easy as that. Get help. Yes, we all know that. Having been involved with suicidal people for ten years saying 'it just doesn't add up' is right up there with what anyone should not be saying, to be honest.
When you are in a very dark place, you cannot think clearly and those trying to help you can't see the wood for the trees at times. One rebuttal by someone in the Palace sends the whole thing spiralling out of control, which is what I imagine happened.

He left because he wants to feel important and he didn’t feel that due to line of succession

I totally disagree with this. I honestly think that Harry has always been relieved not to be next in line to the monarchy. It gave him more freedom. Now... that could mean he felt like a square peg in a round hole but your assertion is, in my opinion, wrong.

@MinnieMous3

For PC, H and W the approval was signed off that they could see a therapist, but not for her.

I’m sure they don’t need a therapist ‘signing off’.

They had the money, if Harry booked her a therapist then drove her to see them, what are they going to do? The whole ‘she wasn’t allowed to see a therapist’ only works if you believe they were physically kept in Frogmore Cottage against their will and were prevented from leaving.

Which would be most at odds with the fact Meghan jetted to USA for her baby shower (despite allegedly having her passport confiscated by RF), had her A-listed friends over to visit, was allowed to choose her own hospital for the birth, complained that they were left to drift at sea with no guidance or input from the RF etc.

I think they have taken minor passing comments and stretched them beyond all recognition - it wouldn’t surprise me if someone said to Harry, ‘Ok book her a therapist but be very discreet otherwise the press will find out’ and they took that to mean ‘this is embarrassing for the firm’.

I believe everything has to get approval. As they would say, how else do we 'protect' you.

Soon as they did take those trips, they were leaked to the press by 'royal sources' Infact from the looks of it, everything and everywhere they went was leaked.
Even the fact that MM had MH was leaked. Maybe they were hoping she had a proper breakdown.

She seems fine now, so it would seem that after they left, she could have got the help that they need. But if the 'royal sources' were not informed, then we won't know how she recovered because their camp only releases statements or talks when they approve it.

If H&M drove somewhere on their own, do you really think between security, tracking etc. no one from the palace would have known where they were? Imagine the poor therapist when the press descends on their door or pay someone or sneak in to get all MM's inner most thoughts. They would be spread all over the papers.

I couldn't comment on a person I haven't met, especially not their mental health as I'm not a Dr or therapist so in my opinion best practice is to keep quiet.

The senior members of the army are not ever likely to need to die for their job, we all know that. These are very senior members and all military serve the sovereign.

Charles wanting to slim RF down is good and yes fewer mascots - unless that is they are happy to take the perks with the commitment and lesser role and good to walk behind seniors.

They clearly want the whole super wealthy US style life without bringing anything to the table except running down others. The will one day wonder why they don’t have any friends just employees and supporters (AKA dimwits) No loyalty to anyone in either family.

If you’re going to claim you’re better than others, then should act better - not repeat the same behaviour but call it - their truth 😀

The supporters and Harry have sooooo much in common, can see the mutual attraction.

Who are 'dimwits'???

Honestly, some of the nonsense I read on here is beyond a joke.

I do find... those that are totally negative about M&H repeatedly throw insults about. It is their modus operandi. I suppose if you are continually running down two individuals (M&H) it is second nature to insult or ridicule those that don't agree with you on here also

(Disclaimer...not everyone)

@merrymouse

This is how she highlight that she was treated differently to everyone else. For PC, H and W the approval was signed off that they could see a therapist, but not for her.

You might be right, but what could she do? Take it to an industrial tribunal? Campaign for the Queen to be voted out at the next election? That isn’t how royalty works.

I do not think they want the RF to be gone at all.

Some changes need to be made. By coming out, pressure groups or a proper enquiry could help with the way forward. Make sure that the RF members are treated humanely. TBH, W and PC really need to get on board as this would help their grand/children etc. in the long run. They could all still keep the good traditions, but the generations to come do not have to put up with these draconian measures.

@Mummy195

Suits lasted 9 seasons with MM being one of leads love interest. It's rated 90% on Rotten Tomatoes.

MM had over 2M followers on her website (which raised to 3M after H).

She was guest on lots of popular talk shows in the US.

I don’t know about the US. Certainly no one had heard of her in the UK. Have you watched the show?

@GoLightlyontheEarth plenty of people had already heard of her in the UK! Suits was shown over here, lots of people watched it.

“Harry thinks his blood actually makes him special. He isn’t, the commitment to the job is respected not the individual.”

I thought the whole point of royal family was about God hence why the line of succession has to stay within the family

Who would actually sign off the therapist?

If you think of the RF as the standard family firm. The board of directors (the family) and MD - the Queen,

Under them you have the staff PA, office staff, cleaners and HR to manage the staff etc.

HR say they don't have authority to book therapists for the directors. HR budget doesn't cover it and needs to be audited.

Who does have authority?
I guess it depends on who's paying for it. Pay it privately and its nothing to do with the business or try to get the business to pay.

pressure groups or a proper enquiry could help with the way forward.

Except they couldn't .

Once you start formally defining standards, you inevitably raise the question of whether the Royal Family are the best people for the job.

Effectively the Royal Family are always 'on approval'. If a political party with a republican manifesto had significant support they would go, but I don't think it's possible to formalise that without fundamentally undermining the concept of monarchy.

Why couldn’t either of them pay themselves? Meghan is apparently a millionaire from her time on Suits as I kept reading a couple of years ago. Harry is a multi millionaire. It’s not the RFs responsibility to pay for private therapy. It sounds to me like Harry is kist used to billing the Oalace for everything and couldn’t compute actually acting of his own accord and paying for something from his own pocket. One of the reasons he split with Cressida apparently was his refusal to pay for a plane ticket for her to go to a wedding for one of his friends. Don’t know if it’s true but if so, times have changed. He sounds like an entitled tight wad, expecting Daddy to bankroll him for life.

I don’t know about the US. Certainly no one had heard of her in the UK. Have you watched the show?

I had watched the show before the relationship became public. It's been on Netflix for ages.

I like it for the clothes and the apartments, and think that MM did a good job. It's not the best thing on TV, but it's certainly not worse that Death in Paradise. (Which I also watch for the scenery.) I don't need all drama to be the Wire.

I feel I should also be honest and say that as much as I think the concept of the Royal Family is inevitably toxic, I really like the fashions and jewellery, whether its Princess Anne in a headscarf, the queen's handbag or Kate's latest dress from Zara.

He sounds like an entitled tight wad, expecting Daddy to bankroll him for life.

I think that's the nail on the head.
Daddy has said, you want financial freedom, on you go but I'm not bankrolling you.