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Harry appointed senior exec at $1bn startup

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porcelaine · 23/03/2021 14:47

Just seen that Harry has been appointed Chief Impact Officer at a billion dollar valued Silicon Valley startup.
This feels so unfair. I know people who have worked for years first qualifying then gaining experience in their field, without a hope of a job like this. Harry of the 2 A levels and zero formal work experience outside of the army. He can bleat about the hardships of privilege all he wants but he’d never get near a job like this as a private “normal” citizen.

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Lauren15 · 26/03/2021 17:32

@RickiTarr I reckon you’re right about Harry being useless as a go between.
@MinnieMous3 that’s an interesting point about royals being more like politicians than celebrities.

longwayoff · 26/03/2021 17:33

That would be wonderful @Roussette, like Eastenders but vair vair posh. Or like the Plantagenets under one roof. The plots, the scheming, the petty jealousies.

Roussette · 26/03/2021 17:37

Or like Big Brother without the cameras Grin

RickiTarr · 26/03/2021 17:50

I think there would be knock down fights! Smile

ImAncient · 26/03/2021 17:55

@Roussette

Or like Big Brother without the cameras Grin
Spat my tea out laughing at this. Not very ladylike. Clearly I’m not fit to a royal. Or a lady of rank 😁
Roussette · 26/03/2021 18:04

ImAncient there's something wrong with me because I can visualise it as clear as day Shock Grin

MinnieMous3 · 26/03/2021 18:29

@RickiTarr

We don’t want to see them flying about on private jets, hobnobbing with A list celebrities and spending the taxpayer’s money like water. We don’t want to see them editing Vogue, tweeting baby foot photos and touting for work at film premieres.

The thought crossed my mind when I was watching the Oprah interview, that an actor should actually be very good at the job, and there was a lot of excitement about having a BAME royal (all the better to represent the country), but that the average Californian Hollywood type was the antithesis of what a makes a good royal (all that LA emphasis on self development, self promotion and self expression).

At the very least MM needed a really frank, pre-engagement briefing about how it was a team job, the palaces are all draughty and a lot of the tasks and visits involved are dull or repetitive. The reason she wasn’t properly briefed is that Harry didn’t want her scared off.

Maybe he didn’t analyse it all very well, and was just acting from a place of hurt that his previous GFs hadn’t wanted to join the family. They apparently cited the media exposure as being too much. So maybe he went out of his way to find a real extrovert, and just didn’t think it through in other aspects.

I’m increasingly thinking he is the one to blame for much of this, though, be it because of fear, loneliness, lack of realism, inability to analyse and communicate effectively, or whatever else. He did know the system, though, and she didn’t. So I think it’s on him.

I don’t believe that she wasn’t briefed on royal life properly. I think she just didn’t like what she heard, didn’t really think she would be in it for the long term and was preoccupied with planning a 30 million pound wedding.

When they said in the interview that they had initially planned to be working royals for their entire life, I thought it sounded very forced & I thought ‘yeah right’.

Lauren15 · 26/03/2021 19:06

She did say in the Tom Bradby interview that her British friends had warned her about the British tabloids. Also a British woman who worked for her tried to warn her but she just put her hand up and said I don’t want to hear it. (Or something like that) Tabloids are horrible but she can’t act that she had no idea what she was getting into.

ImAncient · 26/03/2021 19:31

@Roussette

ImAncient there's something wrong with me because I can visualise it as clear as day Shock Grin
GrinGrin
Blueberries0112 · 26/03/2021 20:43

She probably felt it can’t be much worst than her celebrity life

MinnieMous3 · 26/03/2021 21:44

Of course she knew about the tabloids! What does she take us for, idiots?! In strenuously denying she knew who the royals were/googled Prince Harry/was aware of British tabloids, it just has the reverse effect.

I’m sure she is well used to looking people up and sussing them out before meeting/working with them, I’m sure she did it as an actor and I would bet my last fiver she did with this as well.

I mean I would Google the Prince I was dating, if anything to check he hadn’t been involved in scandal à la Prince Andrew.

RickiTarr · 26/03/2021 22:06

Even if you’re of the belief that MM was/is deceptive, she still wouldn’t have been able to join the BRF without Harry’s say so. So whatever way you look at it, he was the weakest link in the Royal machine and the catalyst for all this upheaval.

Then again any marriage that is also a job onboarding is wide open to this kind of thing.

I bet William and Kate have nightmares about George bringing home a nice girl who isn’t a great personality fit for zip-lipped duty, compulsory Anglican observance and endless ribbon cutting.

Lockdownbear · 26/03/2021 23:03

Yes he is the weak link, woo'd, too trusting, loved up, catch this one before the family scare her off, who knows what was going through his head.

That close to the top job meant he needed Grannys permission to marry, but I'd bet if she refused for any reason the race card would have been pulled.

The family did advise him to slow, there are reports William tried to get Uncle Spencer to have a word, but Harry wasn't listening.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 26/03/2021 23:49

@Viviennemary

I think it would be a good idea to draft in Beatrice and Eugenie if that's what they want too. I wasn't keen on them before but I think they have grown into adults that will represent the monarchy in a good way. After all they have been brought up in it and hopefully know what's expected.
Is there any indication that either of them want that though? They both have jobs which presumably they enjoy. Although they seem to be permanently on holiday. I suspect Harry’s jobs might turned out to be much the same. Turning up occasionally for a photo op and not much else.
GoLightlyontheEarth · 26/03/2021 23:51

@RickiTarr

Even if you’re of the belief that MM was/is deceptive, she still wouldn’t have been able to join the BRF without Harry’s say so. So whatever way you look at it, he was the weakest link in the Royal machine and the catalyst for all this upheaval.

Then again any marriage that is also a job onboarding is wide open to this kind of thing.

I bet William and Kate have nightmares about George bringing home a nice girl who isn’t a great personality fit for zip-lipped duty, compulsory Anglican observance and endless ribbon cutting.

I think they’ll be very worried about this, yes. A lot hangs on William being a strong King with no scandals and then handing on to a very safe pair of hands. The last thing any of them wants is another wife who can’t cut it .
GoLightlyontheEarth · 26/03/2021 23:56

@Roussette

It's very hard to get my head round it. The aerial view of it is just gobsmacking. And yes. Very pointless. No wonder the RF are struggling with their image when 4 of them live in a 120 room residence. The whole lot of them could live there!
How many rooms in H and M’s house for two people and a baby? Anyone know? I know it has a ridiculous number of bathrooms...
GoLightlyontheEarth · 26/03/2021 23:59

@RickiTarr

We don’t want to see them flying about on private jets, hobnobbing with A list celebrities and spending the taxpayer’s money like water. We don’t want to see them editing Vogue, tweeting baby foot photos and touting for work at film premieres.

The thought crossed my mind when I was watching the Oprah interview, that an actor should actually be very good at the job, and there was a lot of excitement about having a BAME royal (all the better to represent the country), but that the average Californian Hollywood type was the antithesis of what a makes a good royal (all that LA emphasis on self development, self promotion and self expression).

At the very least MM needed a really frank, pre-engagement briefing about how it was a team job, the palaces are all draughty and a lot of the tasks and visits involved are dull or repetitive. The reason she wasn’t properly briefed is that Harry didn’t want her scared off.

Maybe he didn’t analyse it all very well, and was just acting from a place of hurt that his previous GFs hadn’t wanted to join the family. They apparently cited the media exposure as being too much. So maybe he went out of his way to find a real extrovert, and just didn’t think it through in other aspects.

I’m increasingly thinking he is the one to blame for much of this, though, be it because of fear, loneliness, lack of realism, inability to analyse and communicate effectively, or whatever else. He did know the system, though, and she didn’t. So I think it’s on him.

I agree. Though I think she’s been startling naive and frankly quite stupid. To make such a massive life change without proper thought or consideration is just crazy.
Viviennemary · 27/03/2021 00:02

I read quite a while back they wanted to take on some royal duties but Charles wasn't keen. But things have changed now and it might be a solution. People like the Duke of Kent and all the other royals of his generation are getting older and can't go on forever. And the younger ones like the Wessex children won't be ready for quite a few years yet even if they were drafted in to be working royals. So there really is only William and Kate and Sophie and Edward below retirement age. Can't think of any others.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 27/03/2021 00:02

@Marmaladeagain

"hate" "racist" "bigot" same old, same old.

No-one hates them, we leave that for the supporters to post silly words and accuse others of "hate" Grin such infantile behaviour.

It isn't hateful to question Harry's motives for lying about his demotion to a much lesser role of "support" to William - not a star of the show anymore - next generation no-one will really know who he was as the line goes down through George etc.

Harry presenting his dwindling and lesser role going forward is due racism is outrageous.

Pretending it means you're a kind poster because you won't use any critical thinking and choose to believe all he says about royal protocol and line of succession - fill your boots, feel good about yourself calling others full of hate etc. Doesn't fool most people though that kind of "love" for others.

Harry is a very silly boy having a massive tantrum, he had a job as a Royal and now he doesn't. Drop the titles and get on with the new life not selling stories about your family as your wife really doesn't like that (ask her dad, who he's never met). How disrespectful can Harry really be and still have people saying it's hate.

He's knocking 40 and people still cutting him way too much slack.

Totally agree
Lockdownbear · 27/03/2021 01:11

@Viviennemary

I read quite a while back they wanted to take on some royal duties but Charles wasn't keen. But things have changed now and it might be a solution. People like the Duke of Kent and all the other royals of his generation are getting older and can't go on forever. And the younger ones like the Wessex children won't be ready for quite a few years yet even if they were drafted in to be working royals. So there really is only William and Kate and Sophie and Edward below retirement age. Can't think of any others.
Yes only Ed, Sophie, William and Kate are full-time and below retirement age.

Harry out the picture, really means looking to Williams cousins to support him. Maybe Peter and Zara would like too step up but I'd think it's more likely to be Bea and Eugenie they are closer to the throne too.

But yes Edward's kids are still quite young so unlikely to turn to them.

Roussette · 27/03/2021 06:49

How many rooms in H and M’s house for two people and a baby?

9 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms. Rather different to 120 rooms for 2 adults, 2 children. Grin

Edward's children are 17 and 13, I doubt they'd be wanting to do royal duties.
Beatrice and Eugenie... well there is one person that would love that... their Dad!

merrymouse · 27/03/2021 07:25

16 bathrooms sounds very stressful even if you just have to manage the staff cleaning the 16 bathrooms, however I’m confused about how either the Wessexes or Sussexes can afford all of this, given that Andrew has has got into so much trouble financing property.

Just the maintenance/cleaning/repairs of both properties sound eye-wateringly expensive.

merrymouse · 27/03/2021 07:29

Harry out the picture, really means looking to Williams cousins to support him.

Doing what? Apart from official jobs like opening parliament, which Royal duties are indispensable?

merrymouse · 27/03/2021 07:48

Re: the Wessexes, Google has answered my question - good terms from the Crown Estate.

Still doesn’t explain Andrew’s difficulties. Perhaps the problem is that the Crown Estate can provide a good life style if you like horses and loaned antiques, but not if you aspire to private jets and ski chalets.

merrymouse · 27/03/2021 07:54

And if you want an expensive life style, and have limited skills, but can launder other people’s reputations through association, the market for your services is obvious...