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Palace appoints external lawyers to probe MM bullying...

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:17

Last week, in the lead up to Meghan and Harry’s eagerly anticipated Oprah interview, Palace sources were quoted as saying that the Palace was “prepared to retaliate with fresh disclosures about the couple’s behaviour if the monarchy is attacked”.

Great, so what next

External lawyers to probe bullying by other royals?
External lawyers to probe racism within RF?
External lawyers to probe whether there was disability discrimination in denying support for mental health?
External lawyers to problem Andrews behaviour and whether it broke public code of conduct (not criminal investigation, but did he bring us into disrepute type of stuff)?

Is this a vendetta or is RF finally going to be be subject to public accountability?

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LadyWithLapdog · 14/03/2021 11:20

They have to spend their money somehow. Why not on lawyers?

I feel sorry for MM. Obviously if there was bullying that needs to be addressed but the timing is self-evident.

Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:20

The AIBU is are the RF going to disappear under the weight of their hypocrisy or are their actions (and inactions) reasonable?

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Billandben444 · 14/03/2021 11:28

I read it that the lawyers will investigate how the accusations were handled not whether they were true or not. Of course the RF will not disappear, what an odd AIBU. As to whether their actions are reasonable or not all depends on what you believe is the truth.

Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:28

@LadyWithLapdog

They have to spend their money somehow. Why not on lawyers?

I feel sorry for MM. Obviously if there was bullying that needs to be addressed but the timing is self-evident.

I agree any bulling needs to be reviewed and resolved. But why wasn’t it done earlier?

Are only royals who are out of favour investigated?

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:29

RF as a public institution could disappear and be relaxed if we find it unfit

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:29

Replaced, not relaxed!

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:36

And aren’t these actions by the RF a form of bullying against MM?

Singling her out when others in the family could be investigated for the same and worse.

Especially when she is pregnant after a miscarriage. If they’re waited 2 years, surely they could wait a few more months and do it as whole-scale investigation of RF employment and HR procedures?

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hellsbells99 · 14/03/2021 11:38

The investigation is happening now due to ex-employees complaining now that they were bullied and complaining about the way the palace dealt with it at the time.

Lineofconcepcion · 14/03/2021 11:40

I honestly do not believe the inferences made by MM and Harry. There were too many inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the interview, but I believe they believe it. They have mental health issues and are feeding off each other, which is a relatively commonplace experience.

It strikes me as being the epitome of hypocrisy to complain about your father talking to the press and breaching your privacy and then doing the same to your husbands family. How could they ever be trusted in the family again. How can other family members talk to either of them on any matter without watching every word they say.

Personally I hope they melt into oblivion and the Americans are very welcome to them.

Oh yes, and let's have a President as head of the UK instead of the queen. How about Trump? 🤣 Be careful what you wish for . . .

Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:40

Didn’t the ex employees complain two years ago?

If the palace ignored it then, why suddenly wake up now?

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:50

Trump was the head of the operational side, equivalent to The prime minister here.

sinve we have a PM, a ceremonial Head of state type president would be like the Irish one

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Theunamedcat · 14/03/2021 11:52

*I agree any bulling needs to be reviewed and resolved. But why wasn’t it done earlier?

Are only royals who are out of favour investigated?*

The allegations by staff were withdrawn it was widely reported at the time

Lineofconcepcion · 14/03/2021 11:53

@Sprining

Trump was the head of the operational side, equivalent to The prime minister here.

sinve we have a PM, a ceremonial Head of state type president would be like the Irish one

You need to read up on the American political system because you're wrong.
Theunamedcat · 14/03/2021 11:54

The timeline is complicated but from what I can gather two members of staff complained a third put in a complaint on their behalf this was then withdrawn and the staff involved redistributed

CanICelebrate · 14/03/2021 11:57

I think they should investigate it but I think they should also definitely investigate MM’s claims of racism against her too and this should be taken seriously.

It is of course possible that MM was both the victim of racism and also bullied others.
Being a victim of racism doesn’t exclude her from what she was also accused of.

Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:59

@Lineofconcepcionoelase explain how the US president is equivalent to the Royal family.

I would be most interested

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hansgrueber · 14/03/2021 11:59

@LadyWithLapdog

They have to spend their money somehow. Why not on lawyers?

I feel sorry for MM. Obviously if there was bullying that needs to be addressed but the timing is self-evident.

One assumes that her lawyers will be telling them what to find or she will be making even more hysterical unsubstantiated claims. Apparently she is 'demanding' access to BP emails etc! Who the hell does she think she is?
Sprining · 14/03/2021 12:01

I agree, one can be a victim and have done something wrong too.

The timing is really off though. Why not wait until she delivers the royal baby? Surely the stress can’t be good. It seems like bullying of MM too.

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 12:02

“Apparently she is 'demanding' access to BP emails etc! Who the hell does she think she is?”

I presume to defend herself...or is she not allowed to do that?

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thecognoscenti · 14/03/2021 12:02

I think they're doing the only thing they can. If they ignored it that wouldn't look great. If they used their existing lawyers there would be accusations of bias. Surely getting someone independent is the sensible approach.

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/03/2021 12:03

I think, given the accusations have been made and given the fact that any internal investigation would be accused of bias (whichever way it reported) then getting an external firm to investigate makes sense.

It's also a bit different to the accusations MM has made because she wasn't an employee - the palace has different legal responsibilities to their staff vs family members.

Theunamedcat · 14/03/2021 12:04

@thecognoscenti

I think they're doing the only thing they can. If they ignored it that wouldn't look great. If they used their existing lawyers there would be accusations of bias. Surely getting someone independent is the sensible approach.
Exactly but they will be criticism no matter what they do
LadyWithLapdog · 14/03/2021 12:04

Everybody can get access for themselves via the FOI act. I might be misinterpreting this.

BTW call the claims unsubstantiated, if you want, but no need to call her hysterical too

Justcallmebebes · 14/03/2021 12:04

You certainly need to do some research judging by your incredibly simplistic view of a republic, the monarchy and constutional law and reform

Sprining · 14/03/2021 12:05

Why aren’t the RF employees? Don’t they get paid to do royal duties by the taxpayers?

How are RF grievances dealt with, eg, mental health, bullying, racism?

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