Palace appoints external lawyers to probe MM bullying...

[Sprining]

Last week, in the lead up to Meghan and Harry’s eagerly anticipated Oprah interview, Palace sources were quoted as saying that the Palace was “prepared to retaliate with fresh disclosures about the couple’s behaviour if the monarchy is attacked”.

Great, so what next

External lawyers to probe bullying by other royals?
External lawyers to probe racism within RF?
External lawyers to probe whether there was disability discrimination in denying support for mental health?
External lawyers to problem Andrews behaviour and whether it broke public code of conduct (not criminal investigation, but did he bring us into disrepute type of stuff)?

Is this a vendetta or is RF finally going to be be subject to public accountability?

To be fair I find Fergie hilarious but would make her stay in the cottage too. There is only so much time you can take with such a loud personality

I’m sorry for your experience @TeaSoakedDisasterMagnet

*Fergie and Diana were no longer members of the family once they got divorced - would you expect ex in-laws to have you over to stay for Christmas? They both did very nicely financially though.

Fergie didn't.*

Yes, agreed, but she still lives with her ex which saves having to buy and run a home. I think it's odd that some people expect any family to treat the ex as though they were still a member of the family.

Meghan has made many allegations against the royal family.

Meghan and Harry! Bloody hell, burn the witches is truly alive and well isn't it. If you dislike her for making allegations, you should feel the same way about Harry who has made the same allegations. In the same interview.

Maybe people feel as if Meghan is more at the front of things because the bulk of the interview with Oprah featured her, and Harry came in later on.
Personally, I think Harry came across as being very resentful and quietly angry, whereas Meghan was calmer and more measured. But I think they are both equally behind the allegations.

@CallmeHendricks

Maybe people feel as if Meghan is more at the front of things because the bulk of the interview with Oprah featured her, and Harry came in later on. Personally, I think Harry came across as being very resentful and quietly angry, whereas Meghan was calmer and more measured. But I think they are both equally behind the allegations.

On that particular interview she had more screen time so I appreciate when discussing the interview perhaps that is why people are mentioning her name more.

But there has been an overwhelming narrative of Meghan being some sort of evil mastermind and Harry being a poor old put upon fella.

They are a couple, they seem like a real team and they present as a united front.

That's why I find it so baffling Meghan's name is so often used as regards decisions that have been made as a couple, statements that have been made as a couple etc.

It's so disappointing every time.

The timing is really off though.

The timing is anything but off. It's in response to the allegations she made during the Oprah interview, an interview orchestrated by H & M during MM's pregnancy. There was ALWAYS going to be an immediate response to their allegations of bullying and racism. MM is an intelligent woman and I am sure she took timing into consideration. Maybe sitting back and having pregnancy massages and raspberry leaf tea in silence is not how she goes about things, OP.

All of this feels wrong. I am particularly surprised that such a sensitive investigation has been discussed publicly at this time. Normally I suspect it would have been private. For example, was there an investigation into the Epstein related allegations relating to Prince Andrew? I doubt it, and certainly not one overseen by external counsel. Feels a bit opportunistic?

I suspect that the Palace tries, wherever possible, not to air their dirty laundry in public. So, if they can keep things behind closed doors, they will. Except they have had their hand forced with some recent events - Prince Andrew offered to do the interview with Emily Maitlis and look how that turned out! I think any further action re: Andrew needs to come from the FBI (??) but the Palace have, for their part, kept him completely out of public sight and removed most of his patronages.

Whatever has or has not happened, she is pregnant, not ill. The pregnancy did not prevent the interview (why should it?) And does not affect anything else.

Pregnancy irrelevant.

Because she did an interview, it is ok to bring the wrath of an institution down on her? A public institution at that?

We protect free speech without retaliation. If the bullying investigation is retaliation, which it seems to be, then it is really not on. And why make it public? Atleast h&M didn’t name individuals in public. It is coming across as crude and vindictive. Sure, as individuals the RF can be as petty as they want to and do all the tit-for-tat bickering they want.

But public institutions really should t engage in retaliation towards individuals just because they spoke up.

And that’s why it is such a mess between family and public institution

The Queen always spends Christmas at Sandringham, which isn't that big
😂😂😂
Sandringham has 775 rooms altogether, 52 royal and state bedrooms and 188 staff bedrooms (and 78 bathrooms).

Think they could have squeezed her in - if only to stop her humiliation in front of her kids. (Though I'm sure it's difficult to humiliate any of the Andrew/Fergie brigade)

Because she did an interview, it is ok to bring the wrath of an institution down on her?

People seem to forget that Princess Anne did an interview, Prince Andrew did one, Fergie did one, Prince Charles did one and Princess Diana did one, now Harry and Meghan have done one.

So who got the wrath of the institution down on them - only Fergie, Diana and Meghan! The royals look after themselves - marrying in doesn't get you the protection. Hardly an equal opportunities employer.

Palace have, for their part, kept him completely out of public sight and removed most of his patronages

The will never remove his privilege or his title however bad things turn out to be. Hell still live in splendour and security paid for by us.

@Brainwave89

All of this feels wrong. I am particularly surprised that such a sensitive investigation has been discussed publicly at this time. Normally I suspect it would have been private. For example, was there an investigation into the Epstein related allegations relating to Prince Andrew? I doubt it, and certainly not one overseen by external counsel. Feels a bit opportunistic?

It’s being discussed publicly because the people alleging bullying went to The Times.

Andrew isn’t employed by the Palace, if there’d been any investigation here it would be carried out by police or MI6.

Let's be honest - Andrew's scandals are legendary and we're going on before the Epstein affair. Not one investigation was ever made by the royals of his dodgy property dealings, abuse of public funds, or questionable relationships with people who kept him in the lifestyle he demanded.

Andrew isn’t employed by the Palace, if there’d been any investigation here it would be carried out by police or MI6

Oh come on - the royals turn like vipers on those they claim bring the royals into disrepute. If he wasn't the queens son, he would have been subject to tonnes of media leaks by 'the royal men in grey suits'. (Who often happen to be related in some way to the royal family).

@StoneofDestiny

Let's be honest - Andrew's scandals are legendary and we're going on before the Epstein affair. Not one investigation was ever made by the royals of his dodgy property dealings, abuse of public funds, or questionable relationships with people who kept him in the lifestyle he demanded.

Presumably because nobody complained about them?

From what has been reported as the earliest staff complaint about Meghan these emails of she sent HR could be interesting.

Meghan's friends are saying they show how upset etc she was at the time. However if sent after the staff started to complain they could actually read differently. Like she was trying to play HR. That would explain why they started to blank her.

Also the when the head of staff first complained to Williams assistant about Meghan's behaviour. It sounds like around the time William and Harry's relationship got strand. Also them leaving Kensington Home for Frogmore.

If you look at the work history of some that left. They were employed for Meghan. They had worked for people like Robbie Williams before and new there stuff. These were not royal family employees. So loyal to the family etc

“Because they are a family? Do you get an HR company in when you fall out with an annoying brother or demanding MIL?”

Families like the Windors communicate with each other through lawyers/secretaries. That way they never have to acknowledge unpleasant things like money and racism. They don't do reality and family life is run like a business.

I wonder how much longer the RF have left tbh - it all seems terribly outdated now.

Does the palace have a public inquiry in every complaint made?

How can we know I if a complaint was made, can we do a FOI request. Oh no, we can’t.

Or if anyone complains about any member of the RF to a news outlet, the RF are committed to publicly investigating these, including historic claims?

That was to @Alsohuman

@Sprining

Does the palace have a public inquiry in every complaint made?

How can we know I if a complaint was made, can we do a FOI request. Oh no, we can’t.

Or if anyone complains about any member of the RF to a news outlet, the RF are committed to publicly investigating these, including historic claims?

The complaints were dealt with by HR at the time. Press leaks happened but the palace hushed this up as much as possible.

This is all out now because a ex staff member hearing about the interview got pissed off. Did an interview with the Times newspaper. Making it all public. Then the palace had no choice but to investigate because made public after more complaints came out.

Also the palace may be a little annoyed with the pair😂

Thanks @Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum. Exactly as you say.