Palace appoints external lawyers to probe MM bullying...

[Sprining]

Last week, in the lead up to Meghan and Harry’s eagerly anticipated Oprah interview, Palace sources were quoted as saying that the Palace was “prepared to retaliate with fresh disclosures about the couple’s behaviour if the monarchy is attacked”.

Great, so what next

External lawyers to probe bullying by other royals?
External lawyers to probe racism within RF?
External lawyers to probe whether there was disability discrimination in denying support for mental health?
External lawyers to problem Andrews behaviour and whether it broke public code of conduct (not criminal investigation, but did he bring us into disrepute type of stuff)?

Is this a vendetta or is RF finally going to be be subject to public accountability?

They would be best to let the bullying claims quietly disappear. It looks obvious they are trying to make her look bad. Old claims of bullying they have waited years to investigate until now. Meanwhile you have the whole Andrew mess they have brushed aside. Even if they 'prove' Meghan was a bully. Meghan can say she was suffering serious mental health issues at the time, causing her to act out of character. Which will open up the whole issue again of why they didn't get her help and how much pressure she was under.

I agree. I’m surprised too.

I wonder if this is being driven by RF people in grey suits, rather than the RF themselves. Meghan seemed to have an issue mostly with the folks ‘running’ the royal show rather than the immediate family. Eg, she talks well of the women in the family and didn’t say anything negative about Charles or Wills either.

I’m not sure she’s entitled to the emails. She’s entitled to be told a summary of the content including specific allegations against her but maybe not the actual emails?

If I accused someone more senior than me at work of bullying me I would be pissed off with HR/my manager if they turned all my emails over to the person I’d accused. 🤷‍♀️ Yes, I’d expect them to be told the allegations so they could defend themselves but I think the actual written details in my own words isn’t on.

Maybe I’m being naive.

I can well imagine some officious RF grey suits trying to dominate and control her. Because she was foreign, mixed race and pretty.

I hope they don’t mistake with bullying to standing up for herself?

@NuclearDH, it is not clear if she is asking for access to her own emails or the dossier of other people’s communication on this matter

Usually the ‘evidence’ from both sides is shared with both parities. It makes sense, how can she defend herself against shadows?

If they looked into it privately, they would be accused of bias and a witch hunt.

They're just trying to make sure it's totally objective.

Look, Meghan has deliberately broadcast a global interview implying that the RF are racist, that they deliberately gave her and her baby, their relative, no support or protection because of her racial background, and that close family members deliberately lied about her to the press in order to trash her.

SHE might do stuff like this. But THEY certainly didn't.

So, vague insinuations with no evidence whatsoever and no probing by the interviewer. Broadcase out as 'truth'.

I'm bloody glad they're calling her on her cr*p. This kind of thing must be stood up to. She's horribly manipulative and if she really did upset so many people and treat them badly, yes she absolutely must be exposed.

Tbf, the timing and sole focus on Meghan does make it sound a bit like a witch hunt.

While they are at it, why doesn't the palace investigate the racism claims and Meghan's claims that she was bullied and denied MH support publicly too?

And that there were no claims of bullying at all from her years of work the US, makes you wonder why suddenly in the Uk it has become an issue?

I imagine if Michelle Obama worked in the UK, some people would find her too direct and ‘bullying too 😊

@Sprining

Tbf, the timing and sole focus on Meghan does make it sound a bit like a witch hunt.

While they are at it, why doesn't the palace investigate the racism claims and Meghan's claims that she was bullied and denied MH support publicly too?

How is anyone supposed to investigate the racism allegations when there’s no indication of who’s being accused? It was throw some mud and see where it sticks.

There were no allegations of bullying towards Meghan in the interview I watched. Why didn’t her husband (who had a therapist on speed dial) get help for her? Mine would.

I think they did the right thing not naming people in the interview.

They would probably share details with any palace investigation I imagine.

It is interesting that it's only Meghan who is considered the bully when Harry allegedly said "what M wants, M gets" which sounds pretty bullying to me.

Allegedly. Sounds like a line from a bad mafioso movie 🍿

I can’t imagine anyone saying it in real life though 😃

Probably more like ‘why can’t she get the one she wants’?

I say it to my Dh if he gives dd the wrong ice cream flavour. And my dd is not a diva, far from it

It is funny how Harry got less stick for the alleged comment when he's the one who made it. It was probably the first anti-Meghan story that I'd heard. Press reported Harry getting scolded by the Queen for his tone but I think that was made public later iirc

I use "alleged" to reduce the odds of the thread being zapped rather than having an opinion on whether or not it happened.

*It’s a bit suspect that someone who seemingly has no history of bullying is now being investigated over something that happened three years ago

How do you know this? That there is no history? If you go buy her families version there is plenty of history of bullying behaviour?*

You mean the father who said he would constantly go to the media until she talks to him? The half-sister who hasn’t talked to her in over a decade and whose own children barely speak to her?

I did also provide an example and explained fully what I meant which you simply ignored. I didn’t say there wasn’t any evidence hence me using the word “seemingly”.

With all the work she has done with charities, being on a hit tv show for years, and working on other movies and shows before that, and there have yet to be any mentions of her having such behaviour other than two family members who were looking for a money grab before she moved to the States. Did she have everyone she’s ever met in life sign an NDA? I highly doubt it and like I said before I also highly doubt that the RF didn’t go through her background with a fine tooth comb.

There are some very unpleasant rumours about MM's behaviour from well before she met PH. I've no way of knowing whether or not they're true, but it's incorrect to say such stories don't exist.

They have to spend their money somehow

You mean our money!

There are loads of whacko rumours out there. Including that Obama is an alien and that he got sworn in on the Quran (spelling?)

People love to make up things and then say no smoke without fire 😃

Love to see independent lawyers get involved in assessing Andrew the creeps behaviour. Maybe get them involved in Fergie and Sophie 'selling' favours to get doors open to the royal family. Maybe get them to assess Philips crass and often racist comments to people while on public visits? Maybe get them looking at the abuse of public funds - airmiles Andy would top the list I'm sure.

@StoneofDestiny

They have to spend their money somehow

You mean our money!

True!

I would have said use our existing employment tribunals. They are already paid for by us and highly proficient.

Except they don’t deal with bullying, I think. Unless linked with unfair or constructive dismissal?

Tbh, I’ve worked with many companies, including public sector and no one takes bullying seriously, unless they have other reasons to make an example of an individual. So perhaps the Rf is going to be a trend-setter here and become a model on equality and human rights?

And I have been bullied, and it is horrific. The gaslighting especially had a massive impact on my mental health and I still get flashbacks even though it was eons ago.

Whatever happens - the royal family always side with the royal family. They are experts in ostracising those who 'disappoint them' - see how Fergie was 'banished' while Andrew was protected. Likewise with Diana - Charles stayed safeguarded. Philip was never brought to account for his behaviour - could you imagine the furore if Diana or Kate said any of the things he said?

Best scrap the lot of them. They are not good role models for anyone or good representatives of our country. They are an expensive and undemocratic anachronism.

OP you seem mixed up about what the role of the Sussexes and other “working” royals actually is. They’re not employees in the sense that joe bloggs would be. They don’t sign a contract, there is no salary or paid holidays or other employment law. Therefore Meghan going to HR and asking for mental health support doesn’t make any sense at all. She’s not entitled to help from the HR department because they don’t and didn’t employ her. Being a “working” royal means supporting the queen and representing the family. Not literal day job work.

@StoneofDestiny, agree with you