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Palace appoints external lawyers to probe MM bullying...

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Sprining · 14/03/2021 11:17

Last week, in the lead up to Meghan and Harry’s eagerly anticipated Oprah interview, Palace sources were quoted as saying that the Palace was “prepared to retaliate with fresh disclosures about the couple’s behaviour if the monarchy is attacked”.

Great, so what next

External lawyers to probe bullying by other royals?
External lawyers to probe racism within RF?
External lawyers to probe whether there was disability discrimination in denying support for mental health?
External lawyers to problem Andrews behaviour and whether it broke public code of conduct (not criminal investigation, but did he bring us into disrepute type of stuff)?

Is this a vendetta or is RF finally going to be be subject to public accountability?

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dogsonlead · 21/03/2021 21:23

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HeadNorth · 21/03/2021 21:25

You just sound like a mad person. I think Rousette sounds pretty calm. Your posting style is a bit crazed, but I guess that is just the way you write. Responding to the post, not just insulting the poster, is the best way to have a civil discussion.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 21/03/2021 21:26

@HeadNorth

Well, the RF have appointed a diversity tsar so some good has come from this. But it is such an out of date and anachronistic institution, although this is a welcome step, it can only ever be a sticking plaster.

How can you ensure equality, diversity and inclusiveness in an institution that by its very nature is unequal, white and exclusive? The whole concept of inherited monarchy is well past its sell-by date.

I agree with you to in some respects but once Charles (or William) is fully in control. Things will change a lot.

For decades, prince charles has displayed his support for the cause of anti-racism through The Prince's Trust, the pioneering organisation he set up in 1976.

It has grown into a major national programme which aims to enhance the self-confidence, skills and employment prospects of disadvantaged young people, many of them from deprived ethnic minority communities in the inner cities.

In an interesting profile of the Prince in 1988, to coincide with his 40th birthday, The New Yorker magazine observed: "At this point in his life, he has almost certainly spent more time among blacks, Asians and the poor than any major elected official in Britain.

"And his concern seems genuine."

Broadminded, thoughtful and courageous, the Prince of Wales has helped to ensure the Royal Family stays relevant in modern, changing Britain.

It is a travesty that the Court is now condemned for the very vice against which he has always forcefully campaigned.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 21/03/2021 21:30

@IrmaFayLear

Normally I’m a bit critical of M&H but in this case I think M’s “bullying” was a culture and job clash. A Listers have lackies who run around like headless chickens smoothing the celebrity’s path whilst acting like they are a god.

Also Americans don’t pepper requests with pleases and thank yous: it will be “Get me Jeff on the line!” Or “Get me a soy latte!” They are not being rude, it’s just that we (or people in palace circles) might say, “Would you mind awfully fetching me a soy latte if you have the time, please?”

The latter person isn’t necessarily nicer or making less of a demand, they’re just couching it differently.

The problem is thatPalace staff are poorly paid and work very long hours. They do so out of loyalty and the kudos of working for Royalty. They expect to be treated with respect in return. M thought that her role was to be autocratic and demanding, treating the ‘servants’ like lackeys I imagine. She had no experience of that world and no manners by the sound of it. Insecure about being American and from an ordinary background probably made her even more demanding. Someone should have set her straight at the start. Harry instead has just bent to her will and run around telling everyone to do what she says by the sounds of it. It’s called being rude.
Roussette · 21/03/2021 21:37

How on earth do you know she treated 'servants' like 'lackeys'. Awful thing to say. No manners? Ordinary background?

There's a clip I read earlier about how she hired an icecream and sorbet stand for the staff and they loved it.

Maybe wait until an independent enquiry confirms that she treated 'servants' as 'lackeys' before quoting that as fact.

SoWhyNot · 21/03/2021 21:44

@rosetylersbiggun

Wow personal abuse, and ableism, and threats all in one post! Obviously the royal stans are running scared.

Look how they all ignore the fact there's a paper trail showing that Christian Jones' partner took payments from a bank account proven to belong to the Sun newspaper.

Or how they all ignore that only someone very close to the RF could have leaked Kate and Meghan's private conversation.

It's disgusting. The RF and courtiers leak leak leak like a sieve and release details of private conversations constantly, using lies and underhand deals. Harry and Meghan give one interview, saying things openly without deceit and they get smeared for doing what everyone else does in secret.

An interview, then talked to Gayle afterwards. Plus, as I already said, it was confirmed by the judge Meghan contributed towards Finding Freedom and that she also gave further information to one of the journalists of the book as an ongoing thing. And that’s off the top of my head without even reading up on it!

I’d say it’s fair to say that nobody looks good in this mess.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 21/03/2021 21:47

@Roussette

How on earth do you know she treated 'servants' like 'lackeys'. Awful thing to say. No manners? Ordinary background?

There's a clip I read earlier about how she hired an icecream and sorbet stand for the staff and they loved it.

Maybe wait until an independent enquiry confirms that she treated 'servants' as 'lackeys' before quoting that as fact.

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with an ordinary background . That’s not the point. I’m saying maybe she felt she had to be imperious and demanding in order to be seen as ‘Royal’.
Blueberries0112 · 21/03/2021 21:47

“M thought that her role was to be autocratic and demanding, treating the ‘servants’ like lackeys I imagine”

Knowing Different type of Americans, she does not seem the type.

However, I am sure she will tell people how she feel if her needs are being ignored and unable get the job done for herself. Let’s taken food example, people served meat to her and she is hungry but she is also a vegetarian. They ignored her, and keep ignoring her. In her old life, she can go grocery shopping and cook for herself. At the royal palace, they may tell her the kitchen is off limits or it is too packed. I think Meghan is the type who will ask staffs why do they ignored her? But I don’t think she is the type to will be demanding or bullying.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 21/03/2021 21:49

@Blueberries0112

“M thought that her role was to be autocratic and demanding, treating the ‘servants’ like lackeys I imagine”

Knowing Different type of Americans, she does not seem the type.

However, I am sure she will tell people how she feel if her needs are being ignored and unable get the job done for herself. Let’s taken food example, people served meat to her and she is hungry but she is also a vegetarian. They ignored her, and keep ignoring her. In her old life, she can go grocery shopping and cook for herself. At the royal palace, they may tell her the kitchen is off limits or it is too packed. I think Meghan is the type who will ask staffs why do they ignored her? But I don’t think she is the type to will be demanding or bullying.

She’s not a vegetarian though. The famous chicken dinner remember?
Blueberries0112 · 21/03/2021 21:53

She is a vegetarian

SoWhyNot · 21/03/2021 21:58

@Blueberries0112

She is a vegetarian
She says she’s a vegetarian but then she also said she got married three days earlier than she actually did...
GoLightlyontheEarth · 21/03/2021 21:58

No she’s not

Blueberries0112 · 21/03/2021 22:11

I looked it up, apparently she is a flexitarian.

I thought she was vegetarian
She only vegan for the week,

With a growing child and pregnancy, it would make sense she is flexitarian. Even my vegan sister of 16 years says she would let her kid eat meal and maybe during pregnancy

MrsTabithaTwitchit · 21/03/2021 22:20

I thought she was roasting a chicken when he proposed ?

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 21/03/2021 22:23

Flexitartian Grin

Seriously no words🤦‍♀️

😂😂😂

SoWhyNot · 21/03/2021 22:27

@MrsTabithaTwitchit

I thought she was roasting a chicken when he proposed ?
I think that was an in joke between them.
rosetylersbiggun · 21/03/2021 22:39

What I don't understand is, literally dozens and dozens of people who knew or worked with Meghan over the years - including the entire cast and crew of Suits down to even extras and runners, people who worked with her on other acting jobs, numerous people working for or being served by charities she's supported over the years, random people who have served her in shops, her entire friendship crew who's she's known for 10-15 years - they've all spoken out about how wonderful she is and that she's the nicest, kindest person they've ever met.

The Sun hired a private detective to dig up dirt on her, he even broke the law to do so, and he found nothing. He talked to her ex-husband and two of her former boyfriends, none of them had a bad word to say about her.

With the exception of the grifter Markles, and that one strange woman with the website covered in Union Flag and Crown clipart who briefly repped Meghan for public speaking gigs, no one has ever had a bad word to say about her before.

We're supposed to believe the woman who inspires such deep love and loyalty in almost every one she came into contact with, for years and years, who not even her ex-boyfriends or ex-husband has a bad word about, suddenly turned into a bullying despot throwing her weight around, at the same time the British media was trying to paint her as a monster and people in the RF had an agenda to throw her to the wolves?

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 21/03/2021 23:17

You do understand that she is American right. You don't accuse anyone of anything in America without proof. Which is part of why she is struggling with criticism from the British press. Another thing she should have been warned about. Though as a Diana fan should have known herself. Also nobody is saying she is a plate thrower or slashing tyres of her enemies.

TatianaBis · 22/03/2021 09:35

You don't accuse anyone of anything in America without proof.

There speaks someone who has never read a US tabloid equivalent like the National Enquirer or the Weekly World News (now defunct).

They tend to be more ridiculous but at the same time less aggressive.

Fox News is the place that pumps put a comparable combination of lies, fear-mongering, nationalism, anti certain minorities, manipulation of dormant prejudice. Murdoch is the king of tabloid mentality in both countries.

Blueberries0112 · 22/03/2021 09:46

It’s depends on the newspaper. If they claim to be accurate, they have to provide proofs.

If people write a research paper, they can not cite tabloid or opinion as facts but they can cite newspaper. The only time they can cite is they are quoting someone’s opinion, especially someone who is well researched on the subject.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 22/03/2021 09:53

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Blueberries0112 · 22/03/2021 10:07

“the word was that Doria went round and pleaded with him not to.”

Were you there? Did you see her do this?

I highly doubt this. Maybe her ex boyfriends and husband really did have good words about her

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IrmaFayLear · 22/03/2021 10:13

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