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Harry has a lot to answer for.

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Corcory · 10/03/2021 10:14

I think Harry has a lot to answer for in this whole debacle. He's a 35 year old man brought up as a Royal who should know how the whole thing works and how to ensure his wife is fully educated in the rules and regs. of being a Royal. She was his wife, why on earth was she going to HR at the Palace for help with mental health problems? Harry has loads of experience and the knowledge of where to get help, what on earth was he doing? Harry knows full well that there is a rule about not being given a royal title when it comes to Archie. Why didn't he explain this to Megan? It has absolutely nothing to do with Archie's skin colour. Why is Harry moaning about having their security removed given his father paid £4m for their security after the tax payer stopped paying after they moved to California?
It is not the Royal family's decision whither or not someone has The Metropolitan Police fly over to do security duties.
Prince William sorted the press out when they were making disparaging comments about Kate, why didn't he put his foot down as his brother did?

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IrmaFayLear · 22/03/2021 16:58

Just googled and found that Harpo Productions aka Oprah owns the unseen footage. I wonder when bits of that will sneak out.....

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 22/03/2021 16:58

@GoLightlyontheEarth

Do you think they’re actually capable of self reflection or regret though? I don’t. I think they’ll just find another way for it to be someone else’s fault.
Agree
Roussette · 22/03/2021 16:58

What do we think of the dress fitting rumour that M slapped a seamstress and called Charlotte chubby?

What do we think? BS that's what I think. Anyone who buys in to this tosh really needs to look at themselves.

Diptyque · 22/03/2021 16:59

Associated News are appealing Warby's decision, according to the beeb today.

Is this why the apology has been delayed?

fafadebelem · 22/03/2021 17:05

How knows what is going on with them behind closed doors, what type of reflection and soul searching (if any) is going on. They are in a challenging setup. Both have complex personalities and a tricky upbringing. Neither has had a solid grasp of reality. And now it's “them” against the world. One is mixed race in Hollywood and briefly RF. The other proper royalty and but now a foreigner in the US. Yes, they are privileged, but since when being privileged makes your life go hanky-dory? We must have a bit of compassion for them as people and wish them the best. I find it deeply distasteful when people talk about when, not if, they divorce. Married life is hard, and I personally would never let this thought even cross my mind about anyone. I sincerely wish them all the best, particularly now that kids are involved.

redspecial · 22/03/2021 17:12

@Diptyque yes it is, according to the bbc.

What do we think? BS that's what I think. Anyone who buys in to this tosh really needs to look at themselves oh calm down, I asked for opinions there's no need to start foaming at the mouth. M herself has mentioned something happened, there were already rumours flying about, this is just the latest.

Roussette · 22/03/2021 17:17

Foaming at the mouth?

No. Not my style at all.

Agree, it's rumour.

ImpatiensI · 22/03/2021 17:20

Apparently MoS are seeking leave to appeal so it's not yet decided if an appeal will be allowed. The apology is delayed til a decision is made.

redspecial · 22/03/2021 17:45

@ImpatiensI sorry yes your right. can't discuss current legal cases on MN though.

funny thing about rumours along a theme, they often have a grain of truth to them.

whatever has occurred I suspect it will come out eventually. palace staff have to be incredibly discreet and are proud to work where they work (lets face it, they don't do it for the pay), they won't like their institution taking so much heavy fire from duchess difficult (allegedly) across the pond.

not even a little bit of froth. shucks.

SoWhyNot · 22/03/2021 17:47

Associated News are appealing Warby's decision, according to the beeb today. She's shown she's not the least bit interested in her privacy. And keeps palace emails after all. The professional team who surrounded her and mop up any mess won't be in a protective mood after being dismissed to the world as 'grey suits' if it goes to court.

H&M’s Chief of Staff and Executive Director has stepped aside after less than a year in the role. No matter how much H&M’s spokesperson has tried to make out it’s a routine thing, from an HR perspective in the U.K. it’s not. It’s most likely the equivalent of gardening leave.

Dugee · 22/03/2021 17:51

They really are short sighted. They were glowing about the Queen while knifing Charles and the Cambridges in the back. Charles will very likely be king by the end of the decade while the spotlight will very much be on Kate and William. I can’t imagine they’ll ever be welcome at another royal event so there won’t be much royal connection to milk. They’ll become as, if not more, irrelevant as the Duke of Windsor,

I agree. They don't have much of a shelf life now, as they are no longer royal insiders.

fafadebelem · 22/03/2021 18:07

They could do with adopting the “Never complain, never explain.” motto and let their good deeds speak. They are now in a spiral of bad press and rumours that are so so damaging. And honestly, it is hard to buy that all the bad press is because she is black. She isn’t hardly the only black person in a high profile position, either now or historically.

If they hope to be influential in a positive manner, they have to think about their credibility. How many people are willing to take them seriously when they go on and on about poor me, complaining about titles and spewing half-truths?

I personally don't think they are cut for a life of public service, and the RF is better off without them. MM’s motivations and her personality is just not the right one. And that's fair enough, I suppose.

redspecial · 22/03/2021 18:07

H&M’s Chief of Staff and Executive Director has stepped aside after less than a year in the role. another one? I thought it was Heather Wong who just left?

SoWhyNot · 22/03/2021 18:12

@redspecial

H&M’s Chief of Staff and Executive Director has stepped aside after less than a year in the role. another one? I thought it was Heather Wong who just left?
Yes, another one. Catherine St-Laurent has now gone to a gardening role and guaranteed she will be working away from them by the end of the year (probably by the end of next month). Catherine probably didn’t want people to associate the Sussexes damaging their reputations with her being in charge.
ImAncient · 22/03/2021 18:20

@Itsalonghaul 💐💐

I used to be a family solicitor specialising in DV. I’ve seen many things in my time & my heart goes out to all victims. Coercive control is so much harder to realise as it’s not as obvious.

Lauren15 · 22/03/2021 18:22

@redspecial the playground mum is a good analogy. I can think of a couple like her when my dcs were little- very good at making sure everyone got to hear ‘their’ side of the story first. (Thank Christ I’m away from all that)
I doubt Kate is as sweet as her public persona is but given how fond she was of Harry and how careful she’s been over the years, I can’t imagine what she could have done to deserve M’s clear dislike.

SoWhyNot · 22/03/2021 18:24

[quote Lauren15]@redspecial the playground mum is a good analogy. I can think of a couple like her when my dcs were little- very good at making sure everyone got to hear ‘their’ side of the story first. (Thank Christ I’m away from all that)
I doubt Kate is as sweet as her public persona is but given how fond she was of Harry and how careful she’s been over the years, I can’t imagine what she could have done to deserve M’s clear dislike.[/quote]
I agree and think Kate has a backbone of steel and is nowhere near how the PR Team portray her. It doesn’t mean she is unpleasant though.

SoWhyNot · 22/03/2021 18:26

ANL are looking to appeal the privacy case. Can they include evidence since the heating, such as Meghan’s friend claiming she has emails despite her telling the judge she doesn’t. It’s also got to be difficult to claim privacy is important to her now.

Myphone · 22/03/2021 18:39

Kate gave William a solid nuclear family that are private and protect them.
Meghan couldn’t. It’s a a type of weakness you can’t control or fix. Not her fault but for a person who likes control of every aspect of her image, that’s something she can’t compete with.

Did Harry not say something about his family being the family she never had? Blush

Lauren15 · 22/03/2021 18:47

@SoWhyNot she could never have coped in those circles if she hadn’t had a backbone of steel.

Lockdownbear · 22/03/2021 18:53

Did Harry not say something about his family being the family she never had?

Yes, which is a bit of a snub to her family inc her mum. Who has been as dignified as the Middleton's.

It also contradicts the Windsors weren't welcoming to her.

The whole thing is full of holes, contractions and doesn't make sense.

The UK press have had a bit of respect / unwritten rules about the RF, even stupid stuff like the strip billiards photos Blush which I'd forgotten about were never published in the UK.

Something which I never thought about, you can't really have someone who doesn't reside in the UK holding Honorary UK Military titles. Which could explain Andrew holding onto his but Harry not.

SoWhyNot · 22/03/2021 19:00

@Lockdownbear

Did Harry not say something about his family being the family she never had?

Yes, which is a bit of a snub to her family inc her mum. Who has been as dignified as the Middleton's.

It also contradicts the Windsors weren't welcoming to her.

The whole thing is full of holes, contractions and doesn't make sense.

The UK press have had a bit of respect / unwritten rules about the RF, even stupid stuff like the strip billiards photos Blush which I'd forgotten about were never published in the UK.

Something which I never thought about, you can't really have someone who doesn't reside in the UK holding Honorary UK Military titles. Which could explain Andrew holding onto his but Harry not.

I’m not sure you can be prince/ss of the U.K. if you don’t reside or visit either. Potentially an issue for both Harry and his children once Charles is king. Do you have occupations on American birth certificates? I wonder what Harry will put this time. Unemployed doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.
Samcro · 22/03/2021 19:04

There is so much made up stuff on this thread now its like reading a fictional book.

Roussette · 22/03/2021 19:06

I understood the stripping of the military titles was completely at the Queen's discretion and nothing to do with anything else. They are a gift of the Palace.

ImpatiensI · 22/03/2021 19:08

I doubt Kate is as sweet as her public persona is but given how fond she was of Harry and how careful she’s been over the years, I can’t imagine what she could have done to deserve M’s clear dislike.

I expect Kate might have been concerned at Meghan stealing some of her limelight as princess perfect. Kate seems as tho she's sacrificed a lot to have that role. Also if she was on good terms with Harry perhaps she did resent a bit losing her place as his confidant.

Meanwhile M's bound to be the possessive type who has to have 100% attention and adoration from her man and anyone who might interfere with that is an enemy.