Harry has a lot to answer for.

[Corcory]

I think Harry has a lot to answer for in this whole debacle. He's a 35 year old man brought up as a Royal who should know how the whole thing works and how to ensure his wife is fully educated in the rules and regs. of being a Royal. She was his wife, why on earth was she going to HR at the Palace for help with mental health problems? Harry has loads of experience and the knowledge of where to get help, what on earth was he doing? Harry knows full well that there is a rule about not being given a royal title when it comes to Archie. Why didn't he explain this to Megan? It has absolutely nothing to do with Archie's skin colour. Why is Harry moaning about having their security removed given his father paid £4m for their security after the tax payer stopped paying after they moved to California?
It is not the Royal family's decision whither or not someone has The Metropolitan Police fly over to do security duties.
Prince William sorted the press out when they were making disparaging comments about Kate, why didn't he put his foot down as his brother did?

@fafadebelem

I wonder what Doria thinks about all this, given her social work background?

I would like to know this too. However have a lot of respect for her that we don't.

I would like to know this too. However have a lot of respect for her that we don't.

Couldn't agree more!

@GoLightlyontheEarth

I find it really peculiar that H would want to bare their souls in public like this. Having had a mother who created such embarrassment for her children with revelations of affairs and her own suicidal feelings, you would think Harry would want to do his best to shield his children from public embarrassment. Both his parents did toe curling interviews about private matters. They were both recorded in really embarrassing calls to lovers. William found these things excruciating. Archie and his sister will grow up with the debacle over their grandfather in the public domain, and now the battles with their other grandfather and uncle spelt out on national TV. What an awful legacy to inherit. They will be taunted about it in the future, that much is certain. They don’t have a single family member left who they can have a relationship with apart from Doria now.

This with bells on

Said it before but will say it again. What a shame someone takes after her fathers side and not her mothers☹

Heaven only knows what is on the edited out 90 minutes CBS has got. Not seeing the public have much sympathy whatever is on it. People seem to be getting more fed up with the pair the longer this goes on.

Hopefully they will just concentrate on living their own lives and raising their babies now. They do need to quiten down the friends to though. Seriously not helping things by poking at people.

No Psychologist but Meghans behaviour seems to mirror Diana’s. Suicidal during pregnancy, hatred of tabloid press, dislike of ‘the firm’. I hope they live their best lives and can be happy. Seems they both have resentment. I’d be mortified and would NEVER do that to my father. It was lovely seeing Charles walk her down the aisle .. what a shame it’s turned to airing your personal life on a daytime tv presenter ...

Charles walked Meghan down the aisle with such love and pride. The Queen gave her such a loving and caring welcome. I find it hard to believe they didn’t want the best for her.

I think the best they wanted for her didn’t match what Meghan herself wanted. That doesn’t make them toxic. That makes them different and flawed. Humans, just like Meghan and Harry.

It means either she shouldn’t have married into the family or that they should have agreed to a quiet wedding and live their best lives. They had options. And they chose to betray the family and the country.

Isitspringyet

For some, that is vindication that every word they uttered is gospel and that H&M were right to leave such a toxic environment.

For others, it is that she devoured everything going on Diana... seeing as she was reportedly Meghan’s obsession. Then copied her. Thus making the claims appear true.

Perhaps, as so often is the case, the truth is somewhere in between.

@fafadebelem

She went public to set the record straight and to get people to understand her plight. Not everyone sided with her. That's life. Not agreeing with her does not mean people are low, racist, terrible, etc. She can't control the narrative and public opinion if she decides to go on Oprah.

Also, leaders that make the most impact rarely present themselves as victims.

Leaders that make the most impact don’t have a tendency to go on Oprah and say a whole host of things that are proven to be incorrect.

@fafadebelem

I wonder what Doria thinks about all this, given her social work background?

And her years working in the field of mental health, especially her masters in psychology. I’m very surprised that Meghan was unable to speak to her own mother or get her to arrange help for herself.

Why would anyone in the middle of a pandemic with people losing their jobs, houses, businesses and dieing. Think what the general public need to hear is how tough it was joining the royal family.

This is probably the worst thought out publicity campaign ever. They need to sack their publicist and anyone else working this car crash.

@Mummyoflittledragon

Isitspringyet

For some, that is vindication that every word they uttered is gospel and that H&M were right to leave such a toxic environment.

For others, it is that she devoured everything going on Diana... seeing as she was reportedly Meghan’s obsession. Then copied her. Thus making the claims appear true.

Perhaps, as so often is the case, the truth is somewhere in between.

Definitely

@isitspringyet

No Psychologist but Meghans behaviour seems to mirror Diana’s. Suicidal during pregnancy, hatred of tabloid press, dislike of ‘the firm’. I hope they live their best lives and can be happy. Seems they both have resentment. I’d be mortified and would NEVER do that to my father. It was lovely seeing Charles walk her down the aisle .. what a shame it’s turned to airing your personal life on a daytime tv presenter ...

That is what Meghan wants. To be a follow on of Diana. It was clear already in the South Africa interview she was playing it that way, including the rolling of the eyes!

My dh is Arab and Muslim. His dps did not want him to marry me and we had quite a struggle. I would never tell my dcs that though as I don’t want them to see their dgps in a negative light because they all share the same blood and are connected forever. Ironically and disappointingly, as forewarning by a friend, I can see my ILs are biased towards my BIL’s dcs. I would never say anything although my dd has made a couple of comments. My priority is raising children who feel good about themselves so bringing up any negativity from the past is out of the question. That’s why I can’t agree with you what M and H did.

The more you think about it, the more her story falls apart. So many contradictions! The sad thing is that she undoubtedly has critical issues to raise (racism, MH, etc.) But by embellishing the truth and by giving this sensationalist interview, they have, in my view, undermined their credibility. And that’s on a professional level. The damage caused to family relations may be even more devastating.

I would never tell my dcs that though as I don’t want them to see their dgps in a negative light because they all share the same blood and are connected forever.

That's it, isn't it? And then there the younger generations of cousins to think of. It's not unreasonable to imagine that our kids may want to have relationships with their cousins growing up. It'll be easier for that to happen and less awkward when it does happen, if we the parents haven't gone out of our way to create a public stink with the other members of the family.

I just feel that truly burning bridges is what you do in extreme cases, such as if your husband's family are threatening you or similarly impossible behavior. If it's a case of being offended by some things they've done or said, why not just gently drift away, go low-contact and gradually carve out one's own way of life, while remaining polite and on public good terms?

It's not unreasonable to imagine that our kids may want to have relationships with their cousins growing up.

The trust is gone, stuff has been said and completely twisted out of context. Not just privately or gossiped to friends but spilled to the world.
Why on earth would William want Harry's kids anywhere near his? William who guards his privacy as much as he can. The fear of even the most basic of stuff getting spilled, like what kids got for Christmas etc. They'll be no chance of the kids growing up knowing each other.

I just don't know how they even start to rebuild trust. Harry really hasn't thought about the consequences of what he's done.

I bet right now Charles is almost wishing those rumours about Harry's parentage is true, Except he's his GFs image.

I can't imagine how this is going to affect Harry's MH, when he realizes the damage he has done to himself and his family.

When you are young, you feel you can take on the world, you are bullet proof. It is only as you get older you realise that everyone is doing their best in their own circumstances, MH and we are all muddling through. You learn to cut people some slack, to see the bigger picture. You are also very often dealt some very tough set backs, health issues, loss and suddenly we realise that life is really hard, and having a loving family means more than we realised. Unreserved support and love is priceless, and even if they are not the best at showing it, having someone that has your back, truly has your back is not something that should ever be thrown away.

I feel sad for William and Harry, they were each other's rock for so long. Siblings argue, but ultimately for me I feel real sadness when I think of their rift, because you can see the pain it causes each of them. Surely it didn't need to rupture like this, and so publicly. Harry in particular has lost something priceless. William at least have other family members to rely on. Harry now has no one.

I will say this, I really fear for Harry now. He is completely cut off from everyone that loves him. He literally has no one. He is the other side of the world with no friends, no networks - nothing. I have travelled all through my youth and 20s, and I can say it is very isolating at times. I felt very homesick for long periods, I can't imagine doing that with not even a single family member to call or to care. He must really feel quite rootless and lost. Like everything was ripped away over night. And yes he says he is free, and that is great if he truly feels that way, but freedom comes at a price when you are left with no one in the world to care about you. He is now fully dependent on Meghan, and that is a very unhealthy dynamic to be in.

Harry isn't in a good position at all. How long before he realises that?
Is he going to stick by his wife or try to return to his family?

He is with a wife and they are expecting a second child, when do you think he's going to 'return to his family' ?
This is his family

So weird to say this.

when do you think he's going to 'return to his family' ?

When he realises he misses his family and friends. Or when him and Meghan fallout for whatever reason.

Maybe let them have their second baby first?! And maybe there should be an 'if' they fallout, as opposed to 'when'
Just a bit much... really it is...

Most people's idea of family extends beyond their wife and kids rousette

Out of interest rousette do you think it is healthy or good for Harry to be cut off from this family and friends? Do you actually think this is a good development for him?

My family is the one I have created with my husband and children. I love my extended family but I don't see or speak to them everyday. I'm an adult, married for nearly 30 years, with job, hobbies, friends, children. I maybe see my cousins every couple of years. Not everyone lives in their parents' pockets - lots of us left home and created our own lives. It really is not unusual and doesn't require pity.