Harry has a lot to answer for.

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I think Harry has a lot to answer for in this whole debacle. He's a 35 year old man brought up as a Royal who should know how the whole thing works and how to ensure his wife is fully educated in the rules and regs. of being a Royal. She was his wife, why on earth was she going to HR at the Palace for help with mental health problems? Harry has loads of experience and the knowledge of where to get help, what on earth was he doing? Harry knows full well that there is a rule about not being given a royal title when it comes to Archie. Why didn't he explain this to Megan? It has absolutely nothing to do with Archie's skin colour. Why is Harry moaning about having their security removed given his father paid £4m for their security after the tax payer stopped paying after they moved to California?
It is not the Royal family's decision whither or not someone has The Metropolitan Police fly over to do security duties.
Prince William sorted the press out when they were making disparaging comments about Kate, why didn't he put his foot down as his brother did?

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Sadly I agree. The irony is that Meghan thinks what her father did to her was awful but what she and Harry have done to their children in my book is worse.

When dd was little, I also felt that I could never treat my dd how I was treated. And for most part this is true, but I have reflected a lot upon my mother’s and father’s flaws and appreciate than they were doing their best. Just their best wasn’t great on many occasions.

I can, for example, see why my narcissistic mother struggled with me in the teen years. That she still spouted bile about it when I was well in my 40’s is incomprehensible (I now shut it down). And I will never be that mother. My dd will probably find fault elsewhere. She’s full on blame atm, being almost 13.

And for most part this is true, but I have reflected a lot upon my mother’s and father’s flaws and appreciate than they were doing their best

Exactly what Archie and his sister will do, if necessary, in years to come.
If it comes to reflection being needed.

rousette Diana did not bring her children into it, she tried to protect them the best she could. They are hardly sterling examples, both have been open about their mental health problems. So why put your own child through it? Why?

I think you are finding it pretty hard to defend what they have done, and yet you keep trying. So good on you, if you think they are still cool after all they have done. That is up to you.
But I am pretty sure you would not want your child growing up in a nasty environment where he feels/has been told he has been targeted by his own family. No one wants that for their children. Do we not want them to be protected from some of life's harsher and more unsavoury elements? Surely that is our job to look after their best interests, but I am not sure anyone was thinking of him.

Fast forward twenty years, he will be an adult and will come to his conclusions, and that may be very different to what he has been told by his parents. Karma is bugger.

It is widely reported - though not necessarily true - that Diana did later regret doing that interview, one of the main reasons being the impact it had on William and Harry.

Of course Archie may be just very reflective about it all, or it may ruin him. No way of knowing. It is not a chance I would want to take with my dc. I don't think it would have been so bad had MM not mentioned she felt suicidal whilst pregnant, I am not sure how any child will feel learning that.

I think you are finding it pretty hard to defend what they have done, and yet you keep trying

No. Not difficult at all actually! If you want to jump to conclusions about the M&H situation, feel free But don't jump to conclusions about me!

So Meghan should not have mentioned the racism, incase her children get bullied.
How warped is that.

sam Meghan and Harry should have told Archie privately when he was much older perhaps even late teenage. So that he had the maturity to understand the situation. I don't know how it will help a small child to know any of this.

There was no need for the world to know first.

I don't think it would have been so bad had MM not mentioned she felt suicidal whilst pregnant, I am not sure how any child will feel learning that

Are people not open with their children? Do they keep everything secret from them? I certainly don't. I suffered with PND with my first DC, she's in her 30s now, she knows how much I struggled because we talk all the time about life, struggles, difficulties, high points and low points for her or for me.

And I imagine MM is the sort of person to be open and talk to her children too.

I don't know how it will help a small child to know any of this

He doesn't know any of it... you talk of something happening when he is 7. No idea why.
I imagine his Mum, Meghan, will be open and honest with whatever she feels he needs to know that is age appropriate.

I just find this so strange. To even go down this route... it's like a new avenue opened up about Meghan. She's a bad mother because of this.
Hope not.

Rousett, you being open with your children about your struggles is, though, your choice - and your choice as to when and how. I doubt the press will spread it across their papers on a regular basis.

M&H don't have that luxury - they have abandoned a private life to one of public revelations and all that it entails.

Well, I doubt Archie will be reading the Daily Mail anytime soon!

(sorry, couldn't resist )

As I say, any loving Mother who thinks something might impact their child will be minimising that in whatever way is best at the time.

I think we can all agree that Archie should be spared that!

Very good points about the impact on Archie & little Sis, ok they might not be reading the Daily Mail, but this isn't going to be like a normal family fallout that gets brushed aside and their friends know nothing about.

This will rumble on. There have been comments that Harry might not come for the unveiling of Diana's statue.

Can you imagine 10 years time the sitting at home watching Charles's coronation 'Daddy why aren't we there?'

They really didn't think this through.

You don't get to control the narrative for your children when your life is plastered all over the world. It is one of the downsides of letting everyone know every last detail. It was their choice, and they could have moderated at least some of the message, but choose not to.

I don't think it is good parenting, but we are all different.

People will really use anything to take her down.
So now because she has talked about her mh and racism, she has hurt her child.
What next ffs.

sam I am not trying to take her down at all. I wish the very best for them really I do. I would not want my children learning about all of this, given the nature at a very young age, and it will be at a young age because you can bet your life that some little b* will take great joy in telling him.

Does anyone want to talk about this kind of thing with very young kids? I am all for honestly and openness, but there is a limit.

Any angle will do. And this one hasn't been done yet.

But what will some little B be saying?

Has some little B talked to George about his Grandad and all that went on there?
Doubtful.
Archie isn't even 2 yet!

You don't get to control the narrative for your children when your life is plastered all over the world

Like millions of other celebrities or famous people or indeed other european royal families.

Sensible and loving parents are aware and look after their children and talk to them.

They can't only shield the kids so long.
Prince William learned from class mates that he was inline for the throne.

Diana wanted his childhood to be as normal as possible, other parents assumed he knew and told their kids, who in turn told him!

I think sharing your struggles with your child in an age-appropriate, private manner is commendable, honest and can promote growth. But she didn't do that, right? She shared with the whole world, exposing her children and giving away the ability to decide when and how to MH discussions. Also, what if their children grow up with a desire to be very private? She could have made the public fight against racism about her and spare her very young child for now. But for maximum impact, Archie was dragged into this mess.

MM has more enablers than her just her spouse. JC!

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I think sharing your struggles with your child in an age-appropriate, private manner is commendable, honest and can promote growth. But she didn't do that, right? She shared with the whole world, exposing her children and giving away the ability to decide when and how to MH discussions. Also, what if their children grow up with a desire to be very private? She could have made the public fight against racism about her and spare her very young child for now. But for maximum impact, Archie was dragged into this mess.

Surely who ever made the racist comment about him, dragged A into it.

rousette I actually know some royal children due to sharing school, and I can tell you now they are most well adjusted, happy normal kids. Mainly because they are treated like everyone else, they are nothing special. In this scenario the child benefits from growing up without pressure, without some toxic backstory that undermines them before they even started.

Every parent should be open and honest about challenges in life, and suicide, MH and difficulties and all the rest, but does any parent really want to embark on that conversation at 6/7? H&M will have a hard choice to make, do they tell him early and get there first, or hold off for as long as possible and risk someone else telling him.

There is no way I would want to be in that position with such a young child.

Nope, his mother dragged him into this by going public and worldwide.