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Meghan and Kate

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Amwantingbasement · 09/03/2021 18:58

I only watched about 25 mins and then switched off. Am sure MM felt exactly as she described. But what I did feel was odd (apart from the whole Archie should have had a title so he had protection when none of the Wessex or York kids have government protection - it was withdrawn a while back) was her comment on the Kate situation. She said “Kate was upset. Kate made me cry. Yes it was about bridesmaid dresses.” Then a story came out 7 months later about how MM had made KM cry which was apparently false.

As soon as she relayed the story it made me think - but why was Kate upset? Had you (perhaps inadvertently) upset her? Maybe the story was true - you had made her cry. Obviously what was missing was the fact MM had been made to cry by Kate. But I don’t think the story that was being peddled was necessarily incorrect.

Did anyone else think the same?

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pabloescobarselasticband · 10/03/2021 10:10

@C8H10N4O2 No I wasn't there when it happened obviously. So essentially you are saying that when the press reports these things about fergie its definitely true ( you said she was notorious for it) but when it's reported about Meghan we don't know if its true because we weren't there? Are you listening to yourself?

GCAcademic · 10/03/2021 10:16

The Duchess of Pork title was definitely also a dig at her weight, whatever else it may have been about. Not to mention the survey some newspaper ran and which they gleefully reported on that 82% of those surveyed said that they would rather sleep with a goat than Fergie. I do think she has been treated the worst out of all the married-ins.

MammabearX1 · 10/03/2021 10:23

Link to Megan slamming door in Kate's face, most newspapers running it

Iamdobby63 · 10/03/2021 10:40

I think the issue M had was that the palace didn’t kill the story, I’m not entirely sure why she would feel that they should, although ~ didn’t she tell her Dad that they could only kill one story and then won’t be able to protect them in the future - or some other rubbish.

DreamyDays77 · 10/03/2021 10:46

I’m not sure why everyone is so supportive of M, one interview which was totally choreographed with the questions they wanted and prepared responses and everyone is fawning over her.
She threw a bomb into the royal family with her behaviour. I remember how happy Harry, William and Kate were (Pictures etc) and how close he looked to his family - barely a year after she entered the family and it became chaos and in-fighting. Now this latest bombshell when his grandfather is so ill.
I’m not saying the royal family is a great place to be ( the crown although fictional indicates that as do Diana’s documentaries) however, M would have understood what joining it meant and what leaving it meant ( titles etc) I don’t think she wanted anyone telling her what to do and the royal family is about rules. She wanted to do whatever she wanted but also wanted fame and titles and money. With this Oprah show she will now get that in America. They also wanted privacy ( main reason for leaving right?) although have kept trying to get in the press since they left ! If you want privacy don’t do Oprah

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 10/03/2021 11:23

"Threw a bomb into the royal family" what over-dramatic nonsense.

How do you know how happy they were? Looks distinctly as though Harry is a lot happier with Meghan and his son.

It's not necessarily about being supportive of Meghan as being attuned to there being two sides to every story. Using some critical thinking it's not hard to see that the British press and people using social media have decided to cast Meghan as the villain based on very little evidence, if any. The wholesale character assassination she continues to suffer is awful and snacks of racially-motivated bullying.

DreamyDays77 · 10/03/2021 11:34

@IstandwithJackieWeaver I liken it to a bomb as it has caused division and issues. Before she came along all the reports and pictures of the royal family were happy and joyous ones (obviously Prince Andrew is a whole other story) How do we know Harry is happy now or before? We don’t. My dh would do anything to make me happy at the detriment of his own happiness if I was a pushy selfish wife. Some guys are like that.
Harry had a well reported closeness to his brother, SIL and grandmother which has been destroyed by this constant attack. None of them speak it seems now.
I understand everyone wants to have their say - but they’ve done enough press on their reasons and issues, a book even came out which they didn’t sue about and were alleged to have created, they didn’t need to do this - that’s my point. Not when we are in the midst of a pandemic and when his grandfather is seriously ill. Would you slate your family publicly when your grandfather was so ill and put your grandmother under additional pressure at 94? What kind of people do that?
It had all gone quiet and people weren’t interested in their story any more and they simply needed to increase their profile and fame in America and more revenge on the royal family. She’s an actress pulling on heartstrings like a pro

DreamyDays77 · 10/03/2021 11:43

And on the racism point - if there was any evidence of that in the royal family that’s abhorrent and should be severely dealt with ( and should have been at the time)
For the general public I don’t believe at all this is about racism. M was welcomed wholeheartedly by the British people and the press. I remember being excited Harry had met such a beautiful, strong minded woman. I wondered how she might positively contribute to the royal family in her work there. However, she didn’t want to be in the royal family and threw all of it back and was disruptive. That’s why people don’t like her and they don’t like Harry. Things like their stance on climate change and then flying to America for baby showers. They’ve angered people through actions. I really dislike people saying it’s race related when it isn’t - I’m sure for example piers Morgan isn’t a racist but that’s being thrown his way now

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 10/03/2021 11:46

For anyone who hasn't realised it yet, the press makes things up, puts a spin on things, imagines what might be going on. Based on what? Things read into situations then reinforced by photos of people with glum expressions, captured in a millisecond, gossip and conjecture by friends of friends of someone who might have heard something.

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 10/03/2021 11:49

@DreamyDays77 - you are very naive about racism in Britain today. Not only is it alive and well, but things like Brexit have emboldened some people to think it's acceptable to express abhorrent views about immigrants and others. And express those views they have done and continue to do.

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 10/03/2021 11:53

And let's not forget the Daily Heil's publisher lost in court recently over publishing Meghan's private letter to her dad. They have an axe to grind. Some of the stories around the letter are utter bilge - I've read that it was 'definitely written in handwriting intended for publication'. I mean, come on!

willibald · 10/03/2021 11:55

It's simple. One is married to the heir to the throne and mother of the heirs. The other is pissed off as hell that the former pipped her to this post.

DreamyDays77 · 10/03/2021 12:04

I’m not naive, it’s been very evident over the last year that it exists but there was no racism towards her evident from press or anywhere I could see when she started dating Harry. Sure there were a faction of racists not happy , same as when Obama was made president there would have been - I’m talking about the majority here , not the narrow minded awful minority.
When she started acting like a diva then people turned on her. When Harry acted like a hypocrite and turned on his family people started disliking him too. Actions not racism.
I also don’t read the dailyfail ! I know their view is warped

MammabearX1 · 10/03/2021 12:07

@willibald

It's simple. One is married to the heir to the throne and mother of the heirs. The other is pissed off as hell that the former pipped her to this post.
Totally agree on this 100%... Harry alluded to the fact that Megan was so popular on the Australian tour & not everyone appreciated the welcome she received. I think they expected greater roles & tours... I also think Megan totally saw herself as very much Kate's equal, being American maybe she didn't quite understand the ranking & that Kate is & always will be future queen...
MammabearX1 · 10/03/2021 12:09

Let's not forget Harry's statement "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets"... Wonder why Oprah didn't quiz about that🤔

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derxa · 10/03/2021 12:16

If Kate had sat with Oprah there is no way that her comments would be so pored over, twisted, and disbelieved. Yet Meghan is never ever given the benefit of the doubt. Why is that? The point is that Kate is very unlikely to do such an interview. Doria never says a word and she has had the most awful things said about her online.

cyclingmad · 10/03/2021 13:19

Nope absolutely no racism here (sarcasm) a white women can do all those things but a bi racial women gets condemned for doing the same? How do you justify that?

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C8H10N4O2 · 10/03/2021 13:20

No I wasn't there when it happened obviously

So hearsay from a partisan audience.

So essentially you are saying that when the press reports these things about fergie its definitely true ( you said she was notorious for it) but when it's reported about Meghan we don't know if its true because we weren't there? Are you listening to yourself?

Nope, as I said in my post I knew people on the receiving end of her ridiculous demands. You can choose to believe it or not.

However most historic accounts of the period which look beyond tabloid reports describe the same behaviours. Airmiles Andy also had that nickname for the same behaviour before Fergie was part of the firm. Like calls to like possibly. The also lost no time cashing in her royal connections in the US after the divorce, including the in depth Oprah style interviews.

C8H10N4O2 · 10/03/2021 13:31

The Duchess of Pork title was definitely also a dig at her weight, whatever else it may have been about

It may have been both but if it is true that she made that comment about bullimia whilst Diana was actually suffering with bullimia then its a pretty disgusting comment to make.

I disagree Fergie had it worst of the marry-ins. The ruthless exploitation or position for advantage by both of the Yorks was astounding and has continued after the divorce. Note also how Andrew has kept all his titles and privileges and not been subject to investigations by the palace whilst H&M should apparently be hung drawn and quartered.

Bastion of white, male privilege displays white, male privilege. No surprise there.

pabloescobarselasticband · 10/03/2021 13:31

@cyclingmad

Nope absolutely no racism here (sarcasm) a white women can do all those things but a bi racial women gets condemned for doing the same? How do you justify that?
I wholeheartedly agree that the tabloids have printed some disgusting things. I don't believe that in the main the British public dislike her because they are stupid enough to believe without question what the tabloids print. The uk public were in the main happy for them when they married! Even up until last week mainly defending their right to choose the path they wanted to take! Then that interview was aired and what we saw was a very disingenuous Meghan who is actually not that good an actress as she thinks she is and a not very intelligent, spoilt, entitled Harry trashing his family. All they have achieved is for lots of the general public to feel sorry for the Royals because they can't answer back! To go on tv in front of billions and single out your dad and brother and denigrate them is beyond disgusting! Meghan refuses to talk to her father because he gave interviews to the media but she and harry have just done exactly the same to his father!
cyclingmad · 10/03/2021 13:42

@pabloescobarselasticband

Printed disgusting things? Its pretty obvious racism in disguise. So call it like it is not hide behind say its disgusting.

DreamyDays77 · 10/03/2021 13:45

@cyclingmad

Nope absolutely no racism here (sarcasm) a white women can do all those things but a bi racial women gets condemned for doing the same? How do you justify that?
Why is it racism rather than the tabloids not liking her ( appealing to the public who also have decided she’s not likeable because of her actions) ?
DreamyDays77 · 10/03/2021 13:48

The papers have turned on countless people irrespective of colour - whatever sells papers . As before Fergie, Andrew (for obvious reasons) Charles etc have all been battered by the press at various points. They realise who the public like and dislike and play to it.

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