Harry and Meghan - everyone still being respectful please

[Oldbutstillgotit]

Lots still to talk about .

Will it ever come out what sort of visa he’s on? I assume not but can’t see it going down well in the States if he lives there, preaches equality yet pays no tax.

Mind you, Trump appears to manage that (minus the preach equality bit)

As a Brit in the US I really hope he’s not weaseling out of the normal immigration and tax process. I would find that very offensive. As the spouse of a American, he should be applying to become a Permanent Resident and would pay taxes here like everyone else. Ordinary people do everything by the book and he should too. 😡

• an American.

I just read he could get diplomatic status on the grounds of being “an alien of extraordinary ability” ...

IrmaFayLear

I just read he could get diplomatic status on the grounds of being “an alien of extraordinary ability” ...

Huh, that’s a laugh. I really hope he doesn’t do that, it’s ridiculous.

@malahaha
What nonsense! As a BAME person myself I have experienced not a whisper of such abuse; and have never felt that I am being driven from the site or any discussion. Usually my race is never even mentioned. Perhaps, if you do experience it, it's due to your tone? A little sensitive, maybe? I'm in the publishing world and BAME is the term used. As I said, the first I've heard of this BIPOC thing was when you mentioned it. You can refer to yourself as you wish, but if you use American or very obscure terms, and people question you on it, it's not necessarily racist

Thank you for such a well-balanced response drawn from your own experience.

@Oldbutstillgotit

On what grounds would he have a Diplomatic Visa ? H isn’t carrying out official duties on behalf of the U.K. Govt

I would speculate it’s because the finances of HMQ and PC would end up being scrutinised to an extent because of the funding he has received from them. I don’t agree he should have that type of visa and can see no justification for it once the 12 month trial period is over because they should be completely financially independent from that stage and have nothing at all to do with the royal family.

None of Harry’s abilities are extraordinary from what I can see. I’d be surprised if anyone could justify otherwise. He should really be paying tax.

@Trut

PC’s letters to ministers - of public interest MM’s letter to her father - of interest to the public

Exactly .

So, your 'disappointment' of the Sussexes means that you would rather a newspaper break the law and get away with it, than have MM win straightforward law, and subsequently a big pay check going to a charity.

For what reasons ? Privilege ? You surely are well aware that Viscount Rothermere is worth £19 billion and does not pay tax to this country, as he has his money offshore, so do the Barclays brothers. They then had the nerve to furlough their employees, then made us the taxpayer pay millions to rescue their lying newspapers.

The average Joe cannot afford to sue newspapers, so they regularly smear and lie about people. We have put out lots of examples on these threads.If MM wins, it's another step in the direction that these papers are not above everyone. I hope no one you know ever becomes their victim.

@mummy195
So, your 'disappointment' of the Sussexes means that you would rather a newspaper break the law and get away with it, than have MM win straightforward law, and subsequently a big pay check going to a charity.
Who is this post aimed at please? Threads become a little disjointed if links aren't made.

@OVienna

*MM's letter to her father - contents already in the public domain thanks to MM's leakage of letter to friends and willing dissemination to People magazine. Mr Markle felt he had the right to state his own case contrary to this account and relied on a letter addressed to him to do so. We'll soon see what the judge's take is on it all.

PC's letters to ministers - tried his darnest to keep these quiet but the judge disagreed.*

You do not 'leak' info to your friends, you discuss it. Leaking to your friends, that is not a thing. Copyright laws are quite straightforward, I am surprised this case is taking so long tbh.

For an example, Harry Styles writes a song for his ex and sends it to her. He talks about the song to friends, they tell everyone, including talking about it at a radio station. She claims, they are not quite correct about the details, and plays the song to a radio station. The radio station, then has to ask for permission from HS to play the song, the only thing they can do is talk about it, but not play it.

Not too sure what you mean about PC, but he won his case.

I think it's quite clear, the people who said, they would rather AN win and justified it about 'privileged celebs' etc.

@AmICrazyorWhat2 I agree. I know lots of Brits who married Americans and I know it's stressful getting the right paperwork. My understanding is it's more complicated if you arrive as a married couple rather than get married in the US. Don't know if that's true.

@AmICrazyorWhat2

As a Brit in the US I really hope he’s not weaseling out of the normal immigration and tax process. I would find that very offensive. As the spouse of a American, he should be applying to become a Permanent Resident and would pay taxes here like everyone else. Ordinary people do everything by the book and he should too. 😡

Did you ever 'weasel' yourself out of normal immigration and tax? I am just wondering why you think H would.

Not singling you out, btw, that question is to everyone else who presumes he would be. H is not known for a reputation of being a crook as far as I'm aware.

Mummy195

I admit I could have missed it but I wasn’t aware that MM plans to donate any damages to charity.

If AN has broken the law I am sure the judge will deal with it appropriately.
I still hope they win.

@Mummy195. I have nothing against PH at all, my point is that I hope he doesn’t use his privilege to bypass the usual processes, e.g. by applying for a diplomatic visa when he doesn’t represent the British govt. or the “extraordinary abilities” visa that PP’s have mentioned. He isn’t a famous actor, musician, sportsman, etc.

Fair enough if he applies for the normal spousal visa and is subject to the usual interviews and tests before it’s granted.

@Oldbutstillgotit

Mummy195

I admit I could have missed it but I wasn’t aware that MM plans to donate any damages to charity.

This was stated right at the beginning of the lawsuit, the money is going to an anti-bullying charity. And it still remains reported as going to charity.

The money they won for the last lawsuit they won - about the photographs of the Cotsworld house also went to charity.

It has also been reported that even the picture lawsuits money is going to charity.

Thank you , I missed that .

[quote AmICrazyorWhat2]@Mummy195. I have nothing against PH at all, my point is that I hope he doesn’t use his privilege to bypass the usual processes, e.g. by applying for a diplomatic visa when he doesn’t represent the British govt. or the “extraordinary abilities” visa that PP’s have mentioned. He isn’t a famous actor, musician, sportsman, etc.

Fair enough if he applies for the normal spousal visa and is subject to the usual interviews and tests before it’s granted.[/quote]
I don't know exactly about a Diplomatic visa, but H is now making preparations for being a philanthropist. Recently, they donated over 130K to charity. They also have a past of donations, both through work (will probably count to a lesser extent) and personally (as I have posted about the lawsuit money). Then there is also the campaigning. So it is quite possible, that it won't be just a spousal visa that H applies for. In all likelyhood, his team would advise the best way forward.

I am no longer so up to date with US visas, but in the UK, we have the 'golden visa' for rich individuals who can contribute greatly to the community as well as the economy.

Where was it reported about the money, if they win, going to charity?
There’s already substantial costs involved so will these be deducted from any money won, with the remainder being donated?

Can’t say I personally know about “golden visas” either.🤣

Grazia and Sky News said any proceeds from damages would be donated to an anti-bullying charity.