Harry and Meghan - everyone still being respectful please

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Lots still to talk about .

@Puzzledandpissedoff

On a slightly different tack, and since someone mentioned travel, what happened to Travalyst? Is it still going or was that just one more here today gone tomorrow "initiative"?

Come to that, what's the story on their alleged intention to support everyone through Covid? We don't seem to have heard much about the recently either

Maybe they will offer Trump some support with his Covid battle...

They flit from one thing to another like hummingbirds. No ability to do the leg work, long hours, detailed understanding, hard graft - all talk....and babbling talk at that.

Take a look at Travalyst.org.
Lots of fluff, but not much detail on what Travalyst is, or will actually do.

I wonder if the flitting about is a deliberate strategy. If they announced one initiative and stuck to it, they wouldn't get as much publicity. Every time they announce a new focus, they keep their name in the media. Their business model depends upon them staying in the public eye and being able to generate column inches.

@AnneOfQueenSables

I wonder if the flitting about is a deliberate strategy. If they announced one initiative and stuck to it, they wouldn't get as much publicity. Every time they announce a new focus, they keep their name in the media. Their business model depends upon them staying in the public eye and being able to generate column inches.

Absolutely this.

Getting very fed up of being lectured by a couple of wealthy showbiz expats about the state of Britain today.
One of them really should know better but is so in thrall to the other that he parrots bollocks about the country he abandoned and his wife never bothered to learn about the UK but thinks it's OK to judge us whilst displaying her utter ignorance about the country.
Other members of the royal family have done more to change people's lives for the better than these two ever have or could. The DofE and the Prince's Trust set the examples.

AnneofQueenSables

Spot on. If they stuck to one topic they might have to actually deliver something tangible.

@AnneOfQueenSables

I wonder if the flitting about is a deliberate strategy. If they announced one initiative and stuck to it, they wouldn't get as much publicity. Every time they announce a new focus, they keep their name in the media. Their business model depends upon them staying in the public eye and being able to generate column inches.

100%!

Yes, @SunbathingDragon I was speculating just as people constantly speculate about H&M intentions on here.

I am wondering what people expect them to say about Covid exactly, since all mostly hear now are scientists disagreeing with each other. And how they will put that message up, since they don't have SM.

It's also not clear why this couple is singled out as flip flopping when raising issues - most of which affect them directly. Dalio, Buffet, Oprah, Obamas etc. are they all flip flopping around for supporting different causes?

@Mummy195

Yes, *@SunbathingDragon* I was speculating just as people constantly speculate about H&M intentions on here.

I am wondering what people expect them to say about Covid exactly, since all mostly hear now are scientists disagreeing with each other. And how they will put that message up, since they don't have SM.

It's also not clear why this couple is singled out as flip flopping when raising issues - most of which affect them directly. Dalio, Buffet, Oprah, Obamas etc. are they all flip flopping around for supporting different causes?

I totally agree with you. What were the public expecting them to say? Well, perhaps the following:

”We will be sharing information and resources to help all of us navigate the uncertainty: from posting accurate information and facts from trusted experts, to learning about measures we can take to keep ourselves and our families healthy, to working with organisations that can support our mental and emotional well-being.”

”In addition, we will focus on the inspiring stories of how so many of you around the world are connecting in ways big and small to lift all of us up."

“look forward to sharing more over the days and weeks to come.”

Do you know how many times they posted after this? Once. With incorrect information on it.

The differences between H&M and the list you provided seems so obvious that your question seems spurious. But, assuming it's genuine then there has been research that shows Oprah is considered a seasoned campaigner who doesn't flit from issue to issue hence why she is one of the few US celebs who can influence political voting as the electorate think she speaks from a place of credibility.
Dalio and Buffet tend to focus on the areas where they can bring their expertise to bear. Similarly the Obamas have a long history of campaigning that stretches back to their days in Chicago.
When you have a solid reputation as a campaigner, coalitions then ask for messages of support, or for you to join. That's standard.
H&M aren't flipping about on issues. They're flipping about on their purpose; their initiatives; their business; their foundation.
As I said, I don't think it's necessarily a criticism. I think it's deliberate. Until they can build up a body of work on one issue, their sole purpose has to be keeping in the headlines. They are trying to maintain financial independence in a celebrity/campaign/speaking arena that is saturated and where their worth is directly related to how much publicity they generate.

@AnneOfQueenSables

I wonder if the flitting about is a deliberate strategy. If they announced one initiative and stuck to it, they wouldn't get as much publicity. Every time they announce a new focus, they keep their name in the media. Their business model depends upon them staying in the public eye and being able to generate column inches.

So it seems - and yes, I did check out the Travalyst website but it didn't add up to much which is why I wondered if someone here would know

TBF it's true others also have a smorgasbord of "causes" they claim to support, but at least some of these folk have backgrounds which lend gravitas or real professional experience to what they're doing and I'm just not seeing it here

Cross posted with you, AnneOfQueenSables - only you said it much better than I did

@mateysmum

Getting very fed up of being lectured by a couple of wealthy showbiz expats about the state of Britain today. One of them really should know better but is so in thrall to the other that he parrots bollocks about the country he abandoned and his wife never bothered to learn about the UK but thinks it's OK to judge us whilst displaying her utter ignorance about the country. Other members of the royal family have done more to change people's lives for the better than these two ever have or could. The DofE and the Prince's Trust set the examples.

Yes quite. Its galling in the extreme.

@SunbathingDragon

Not clear what new are they supposed to share about Corona currently. But we are still not out of the woods yet.
Are you referring to the list of Corona advise that they were slated on MN as wrong, only to be promptly re-posted by the UN?

In addition, we will focus on the inspiring stories of how so many of you around the world are connecting in ways big and small to lift all of us up.

This is literally what they have been doing with zoom calls.

A tourist would be astonished if they came to London and saw the composition of the population if they relied on Harry for their information.

Can you imagine their Travelyst site? “Oh, yah, Rhodesia is great yah. Recommend Lucan’s Eco Lodge. Totally not diverse though so suggest organised trip to look at locals.” “Cool, H, the wellness spa is awesome and has a range of products by my great friend Lisa. They’re so great and 1% of every purchase goes to the inspiring poor women who make them.”

In addition, we will focus on the inspiring stories of how so many of you around the world are connecting in ways big and small to lift all of us up. Well they're lifting me up by giving me a big laugh. Harry's never seen any black dolls in shops and London isn't very diverse according to his observations.

[quote Mummy195]@SunbathingDragon

Not clear what new are they supposed to share about Corona currently. But we are still not out of the woods yet.
Are you referring to the list of Corona advise that they were slated on MN as wrong, only to be promptly re-posted by the UN?

In addition, we will focus on the inspiring stories of how so many of you around the world are connecting in ways big and small to lift all of us up.

This is literally what they have been doing with zoom calls.[/quote]
No, I’m referring to when they told people at the start of lockdown and when our medical staff were overwhelmed to “seek medical care early if you show symptoms” when it went against everything the government and NHS had been saying.

The Zoom calls have nothing to do with covid.

It’s admirable that you still try to defend them but in doing so, it just highlights all the more how much they have got wrong.

@AnneOfQueenSables

That is the nature of philanthropy. They do not bring their own experienced expertise is Polio, Abortion, Meditation etc.

They have more scope because they are older, but everyone starts somewhere.
For their age group H&M have done a fair few big projects. Right now they are not at the same level as these people and I was not saying they are, just pointing out to the nature of philanthropy.

While they have been away, they have kept in touch with their charities.

• Talked about BLM and racism, which affects them directly and is a topic at the moment.
• Fake news, Online hate, also an issue that directly touches them
• Voting , an issue that directly affects them and their family.

@Mummy195 It's also not clear why this couple is singled out as flip flopping when raising issues - most of which affect them directly. Dalio, Buffet, Oprah, Obamas etc. are they all flip flopping around for supporting different causes?

I’m at a complete loss as to why you’ve compared MM to a group of individuals consisting of such highly accomplished people like Buffet, Winfrey and the Obamas. She just doesn’t fit in such company. It would be as fitting to put a soap opera actress in amongst ... I don’t know, something like the British royal family?

[quote Mummy195]@AnneOfQueenSables

That is the nature of philanthropy. They do not bring their own experienced expertise is Polio, Abortion, Meditation etc.

They have more scope because they are older, but everyone starts somewhere.
For their age group H&M have done a fair few big projects. Right now they are not at the same level as these people and I was not saying they are, just pointing out to the nature of philanthropy.

While they have been away, they have kept in touch with their charities.

• Talked about BLM and racism, which affects them directly and is a topic at the moment.
• Fake news, Online hate, also an issue that directly touches them
• Voting , an issue that directly affects them and their family.[/quote]

Talked about BLM and racism, which affects them directly and is a topic at the moment And unfortunately shown their lack of knowledge.

Fake news, Online hate, also an issue that directly touches
Genuine question for you, why do you think they don’t address some of the worst online hate known as Sussex Squad? Do you not think that would be a good place to start and to allow people to take them seriously?

Voting , an issue that directly affects them and their family.
It certainly does directly affect and completely embarrass their family. Why do you think they are doing this to them? It shows a total lack of respect.

Racism, I think you will find that they know about this more than a lot of white people.

Online hate I know Dan Wootton has been campaigning, trying to smear this Sussex Squad. From what I have seen the SS do not turn the other cheek like H&M, if people are offensive they defend themselves for sure. I have seen the most vile tweets from so called Royalist /Cambridge / KateStan (even worse than MN) even attacking the baby Archie. Perhaps you are confusing them for those deranged ones who hate MM and at the same time call themselves Meghan and have her avatar? So I am not sure they will single with the ones who raise for charities. In any event, anyone can call themselves whatever online.

Voting
By their family, I mean Archie or any children they may have in future, they reside in the US after all. It has also been researched that ethnic minorities tend not to vote, so to ask people to vote is not an embarrassment.

the world are connecting in ways big and small to lift all of us up.
is exactly what the zoom calls are. We even have zoom calls because of Covid in the first place.

Did not attach.

It certainly does directly affect and completely embarrass their family. Why do you think they are doing this to them? It shows a total lack of respect.

No it doesn't. How ludicrous.

If the Queen feels the existence of democracy is an affront to her values, we should overthrow the monarchy immediately.

It's very funny that posters who are regularly accused of racism by numerous posters for their goady comments in non-Meghan threads such as a thread about the Diversity performance on BGT, see fit to state that a biracial woman shouldn't talk about racism or doesn't know what she's talking about.

Speaking of the Queen....................