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Roussette · 20/09/2020 09:13

Maireas 😂

derxa · 20/09/2020 09:14

Hello, @derxa! Thanks for your comments on the other thread. Did some people learn their History in the 1930s?? Apparently. I did a bog standard Scottish Higher in the 1970s and then two years of history at university. Along with thousands of others. No glorification of Empire at all.

AnneOfQueenSables · 20/09/2020 09:16

I also think there is no point comparing their actions against some ideal environmental activist profile. They're not environmentalists like Greta. Their green activism is a celebrity/corporate type of activism which means you make speeches, possibly consider the environment when you make certain purchases and do some offsetting. But flying round the world is viewed as so essential that they don't even consider curbing it.
I have lots of friends like that even members of the Green Party

Maireas · 20/09/2020 09:16

I've no idea where that myth comes from. I'd love to teach monarchs. Elizabeth I was fascinating.

Maireas · 20/09/2020 09:18

Anne - that's true, but it does leave you open to accusations of hypocrisy, and I wonder if it should be avoided if you're really wealthy, with a mansion, staff, cars, private jets etc.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 20/09/2020 09:19

Yes, flying is something he has learned a skill in already.
I can’t really fathom how he can have any transferable skills to be a producer.
I would be embarrassed to be given anything knowing I didn’t have the skills
It’s like a reverse imposter syndrome !

Someone has massaged his ego to tell him he’d be perfect or maybe he really thinks anyone can do it !

Maireas · 20/09/2020 09:21

A combination of being a Prince and going to Eton, I'd imagine. That level of entitlement.....

derxa · 20/09/2020 09:22

I've no idea where that myth comes from. I'd love to teach monarchs. Elizabeth I was fascinating. In primary schools the only ones that count seem to be Henry VIII and Victoria. I know nothing at all about Scottish kings and queens except for Mary Queen of Scots and James VI

Maireas · 20/09/2020 09:25

Scottish monarchs are great! Malcolm, David, Margaret... Such stories.

AnneOfQueenSables · 20/09/2020 09:26

I know nothing at all about Scottish kings and queens except for Mary Queen of Scots and James VI
Same. I've learnt about Scottish history alongside the DCs because their curriculum includes much more Scottish history than I did at school.

Maireas · 20/09/2020 09:28

My parents, in their 90s, went to school in Falkirk. They can recite every Scottish monarch, in order!

Mominatrix · 20/09/2020 09:33

@Maireas: I disagree that going to Eton would have given him a sense of entitlement. Actually, I would have thought that going to Eton would have imprinted on him how low on the pecking order he really is. By the time Harry was there, Eton had changed to being an extremely selective school where a successful candidate for entry needed to demonstrate rounded excellence in academics as well as something else. Harry got around this, but would have faced his mediocrity on a daily basis. To top it off, the most respected/popular boys there get voted into POP as his brother was, but Harry was not. Eton would have been a very unhappy place for a boy as academically limited as Harry.

Maireas · 20/09/2020 09:44

Academically, yes, I take your point. But socially? I heard that he was popular with classmates? Who knows. He certainly has had a shovel full of privilege!

AnneOfQueenSables · 20/09/2020 09:47

tbh if Netflix turned up on my doorstep and agreed to pay me a fortune to produce programmes, I'd say I could do it! And I haven't been to Eton or have any producing experience
But I figure I could employ people with the relevant experience.

CallmeAngelina · 20/09/2020 09:57

@Roussette

VivienneMary How can you say 'never a hand in their pockets'. Blatantly untrue. I posted this in the last couple of days

CAMFED - Campaign for Female Education
@Camfed
Just in, a message from The Duke & Duchess of Sussex, who are matching your INSPIRING actions by making a $130,000 gift to CAMFED:

‘No better way to celebrate what really matters. Thank you to everyone who donated, Harry and Meghan’

That's 116 women in SAfrica who will receive higher education scholarships because of this and it was very well received by CAMFED.

Do we know where that donation came from? Their own personal fortune? Or transferred from one of their foundations (lost track of what they are nowadays).

BarnardCastleSpecsavers · 20/09/2020 10:24

_£130k isn’t much when you’ve been gifted $110m. You can build a lot of chocolate for that.

froggygoneacourting · 20/09/2020 10:26

Quite right AnneOfQueenSables. A much better comparison would be Prince William, who won a medal for his work in climate change activism, and who announced his Ted Talk on climate change weeks after flying to Cornwall by private jet (and who of course uses private jets constantly and was gifted his own private helicopter by the Queen).

Harry’s been involved in making several successful documentaries so he’s not quite unqualified. Funny how no one complains about William making his mental health documentary series (the one William tried to pitch to Netflix, and they rejected him).

Roussette · 20/09/2020 10:27

What does it matter ?

Do you try and follow a money trail for everyone who makes a personal donation to a charity?

It's a great initiative, it was really appreciated, and it's helping females in Africa realise their dream of continuing their education.
Here's their site

SunbathingDragon · 20/09/2020 10:35

@froggygoneacourting

Quite right AnneOfQueenSables. A much better comparison would be Prince William, who won a medal for his work in climate change activism, and who announced his Ted Talk on climate change weeks after flying to Cornwall by private jet (and who of course uses private jets constantly and was gifted his own private helicopter by the Queen).

Harry’s been involved in making several successful documentaries so he’s not quite unqualified. Funny how no one complains about William making his mental health documentary series (the one William tried to pitch to Netflix, and they rejected him).

Goodness, are we now at Harry vs William comparisons.

I don’t think there is a single environmentally friendly person in the entire (better known members of the) RF.

AnneOfQueenSables · 20/09/2020 10:39

@froggygoneacourting you have obviously confused my post with someone else's if you think anywhere I was suggesting that attacking William was a good approach.
imo it's very shortsighted to think that attacking W&K is a good way to support H&M. If you want to start a thread to tear apart W&K then feel free to do so. I imagine MNHQ might find it against talk guidelines.

Viviennemary · 20/09/2020 10:44

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AnneOfQueenSables · 20/09/2020 10:58

Anybody can start a foundation but there are different structures and processes. Depending on which you choose, depends on how regulated it is and how you can access funding.
I hadn't really thought about it but it would make sense if the H&M donation came from their charity/trust/foundation rather than their personal funds.
Making a charitable donation is a nice thing to do regardless of where it came from but I'd have steered away from any connection to the sussex squad. I wouldn't want to legitimise a hashtag that has been associated with vicious, misogynistic bullying on Twitter.

froggygoneacourting · 20/09/2020 10:58

I can state any opinion I like. The thread title doesn’t say “Anti-Harry and Meghan.”

Just like the Meghan-bashers who continually invade and disrupt the series of threads set to specifically to be pro-Meghan and to be safe spaces for people who don’t hate Meghan, as refuges from the hundreds of hate threads. Or the Kate stans who invade Meghan threads in order to compare the two and praise Kate.

Funny how it’s fine to bring up Will and Kate in a Harry and Meghan thread if the comparison is intended to praise one couple over the other, but not if it’s the other way round.

Roussette · 20/09/2020 11:10

So.. matching donations given with $130,000 from H&M is a 'bit dodgy' because we don't exactly know where the money came from. All we know is it was from them
A great organisation that helps disadvantaged females in SA who were really pleased with the donation and the exposure, yet it could be 'a bit dodgy'.
How sad and cynical, given MM has always championed female empowerment.

CallmeAngelina · 20/09/2020 11:25

What does it matter ?
Do you try and follow a money trail for everyone who makes a personal donation to a charity?

It doesn't matter - or at least, I don't really care. My point was that if it's being attributed to H&M as a sign of their personal benevolence (the implication being it is from their personal funds) when actually it comes from an official foundation with their names on it, they are two different things.