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OverUnderSidewaysDown · 09/08/2020 19:41

Play nicely and don’t say anything that will get your post (or the thread) deleted. I’ll start. Archie is cute and it would be lovely to see him more often.

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Roussette · 31/08/2020 17:04

Whataboutery at its finest. “It wasn’t me Miss, it was her that started it.”

Don't be silly. Don't blame me for someone bringing up the other place saying how nice it was and how she much preferred it. Then others from 'the other place' trying to link to it. Whataboutery? No.
You obviously expected no one to respond, I dunno.

allIneed I do appreciate your invite to fight my corner. That is not said in a sarky way. I mean it.
However.... as you well know, I fought my corner on here relentlessly and I don't have the stomach for it any more. Not when the odds are stacked against me, i.e. 99 to 1 🤣

I don't want this thread removed. I didn't bring up 'the other place' (isn't there a Netflix series called The Other Place lol)
I am not trying to get here derailed, why would I. I'm barely on it anymore. I want all these posts to stand.

Maybe the 'Others' could stop lurking too? Those that aren't on MN anymore I mean!

Roussette · 31/08/2020 17:05

I haven’t put in a link to anything

I didn't say you did! I said others did. Or tried to

MissEliza · 31/08/2020 17:06

Am I the only one who has no idea what's going on? Confused

Words · 31/08/2020 17:09

Superb post, inexcessive . Brava.

OverUnderSidewaysDown · 31/08/2020 17:12

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Roussette · 31/08/2020 17:15

OverUnder Are you auditioning for 'Titanic' the Stage Play? Are you the Radio Operator doing the SOS?!
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YouSayWhat · 31/08/2020 17:15

There was a time when posters old and new,
The mumsnetters and every one who wanted to join in
To me did seem
Lurking in celestial hue
The glory and the freshness of a chatroom forum dream.
It is not now as it hath been of yore:-
Turn wheresie’er I may,
By night or day,
The things which I have seen posted on here I now can see no more.

Thank you Wordsworth.

WineIsMyCarb · 31/08/2020 17:17

Roger that @OverUnderSidewaysDown

YouSayWhat · 31/08/2020 17:17

Oh, OK Rousette, I apologise.

YouSayWhat · 31/08/2020 17:19

I think we have all been on the GinWine

Roussette · 31/08/2020 17:27
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Roussette · 31/08/2020 17:29

Funnily enough I have just poured a glass of Wine It is a Bank Holiday after all Grin

Delicious. To be recommended. I like rosé but only a very pale one and this is a barely pink Pinot Grigio slurp.

OverUnderSidewaysDown · 31/08/2020 17:31

Roussette hopefully the thread isn’t about to hit an iceberg Grin

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bluebell34567 · 31/08/2020 17:32

Love the poem @YouSayWhat. ⭐

Roussette · 31/08/2020 17:48

hopefully the thread isn’t about to hit an iceberg
Grin

Samcro · 31/08/2020 18:35

I wasn't the other place on Netflix, about some one who died and went to the good place, but it turned out they should have gone to the bad place.

KatherineParr4 · 31/08/2020 19:01

@Samcro

I wasn't the other place on Netflix, about some one who died and went to the good place, but it turned out they should have gone to the bad place.
Eh?
YouSayWhat · 31/08/2020 19:05

Thank you bluebell - it is an Ode to Banned Posters (which hopefully we shall never be).

smile

Let’s go far as to shake hands - I have plenty of handgel Grin

Eaumyword · 31/08/2020 21:50

@MissEliza- neither do I! ConfusedGrin

bluebell34567 · 31/08/2020 22:09

yes YouSayWhat shake hands Grin

YouSayWhat · 31/08/2020 22:15

Here’s to a communal shaking of hands, singing to Auld Land Syne and splashings of hand gel.

KatherineParr4 · 31/08/2020 22:21

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SunbathingDragon · 31/08/2020 22:27

Twenty three years since Diana died. I remember the day well.

KatherineParr4 · 31/08/2020 22:33

@inexcessive

I am a long term lurker on this thread but can't help commenting. I think MM herself but more obviously the very many different reactions to her are absolutely fascinating, especially as these reactions seem to be divided to some extent by age group.

If she and Harry want to continue banging on about equality, one thing I would really like them to do is to clearly explain what sort of equality they are seeking, and how practically they are going to support that. Because equality is not just one thing, it has many different definitions - it could be equality of opportunity or outcome, for example, and they might be talking about equity rather than equality. Are they interested in redistribution or recognition? Or both? Do they understand the difference between the two?

I have absolutely no idea at the moment but can only presume that they do not mean equality of outcome for example, or significant redistribution, because if so it would make their own position entirely unsustainable and especially hypocritical. But if they are only interested in some vauge notion of recognition then that seems largely pointless to me and really is just virtue signalling.

More generally I really think that the fact that so many (younger?) people support them (especially MM) and do not call out their hypocrisy - and claim that doing so necessarily indicates some sort of racism and mysogyny - signals a sort of triumph of neo-liberal identity politics in which people have been convinced that deep structural and material inequalities can co-exist with 'woke' identity politics, and in fact, are often not seen as inconsistent at all. The fact that feminists such as Gloria Steinem also seem now to go along with this is especially fascinating.

I absolutely do not think that MM should be vilified and I do think much of the abuse she has received is racially motivated. And that is completely wrong.

I cannot see though how she and her supporters square the completely unearned privilege (and voice) she has acquired on marriage (into one of the most obvious bastions of unearned privilege) with her entirely vague position on equality.

As I say, though, the fact that many people think this is fine does say something fascinating about our current times.

Completely agree with you.

I long for someone to interview her and ask her some hard questions, not just sit there nodding along. She needs to be challenged . Someone with a brain needs to cut through all the waffle and empty posturing. It makes me so mad that she is given a platform to waffle on for money when nothing she says makes any sense.

KatherineParr4 · 31/08/2020 22:35

@SunbathingDragon

Twenty three years since Diana died. I remember the day well.
Me too.