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Harry and Meghan News thread

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Viviennemary · 04/08/2020 09:13

I thought we could have a thread for latest news. MN did say they didn't mind one or two threads. And no rules except stick to MN guidelines. It's Meghans birthday today I just read. And the Queen has wished her a very happy birthday on the royal Instagram page according to that popular Oracle the DM.

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Welcometothelifeboatparty · 16/08/2020 15:19

'Good at understanding what's required' 🤣

meercat23 · 16/08/2020 15:20

@YgritteSnow

This is just so purposely hurtful towards Kate. How can there ever be a way back again? I would never so much as glance in their direction again if I was her. So spiteful.
If W&K had been given any indication of the content of FF it would certainly explain their distance at the Commonwealth Service
scaevola · 16/08/2020 15:24

Do you really think so, given that - although non-ministerial - the Charity Commission's a quasi governmental body fully funded by the Treasury?

Yes, because these are issues relating to very boring legal and financial points surrounding regulation of charities. That Royal Foundation gave grants to Sussex Royal when it budded off seems really very ordinary. How Sussex Royal world, and the exact status of Travelyst should all be in the paperwork (it could go either way, depending on exactly how it was set up).

And isn't it likely that, if they dared to publish anything critical about a RF member, that funding could be compromised?

Very unlikely - departmental budgets are thrashed out by whole teams of people and although cuts are being imposed on everyone right now it's in line with a lot of budgeting/prioritisation meetings. I can't see how that could be subverted because a Royal founded charity needed to correct something.

Even if the movement of funds turns out to be a stinking mess, I strongly suspect that the very most we'd get is some poppycock about the Sussexes having been "advised"

That is possible, but it's more likely to be a legal breach that they have to rectify (eg error in how Travelyst was set up) rather than a stinking mess

PineapplePower · 16/08/2020 15:26

This is just so purposely hurtful towards Kate. How can there ever be a way back again?

Thing is, no one in the RF will care about the wives. They aren’t blood, so no need to protect them.

That’s why the press calls it the rift between the brothers, that’s the only relationship that will matter to the RF and their amplifiers in the press.

The plan is probably to angle for the brothers reconcile someday (with or without MM) and Kate will just be expected to fall into line.

KatherineParr4 · 16/08/2020 16:01

I can’t see Kate ever wanting to be in the same room as M ever again. No one would blame her either.

mrscampbellblackagain · 16/08/2020 16:11

If I were Kate I would want very little to do with Harry going forward. Honestly, is there anyone who doesn't think MM was very involved in this book?

If I were the ex PA who the book says they weren't happy with in spite of being given a glowing reference by BP, well I would be consulting my solicitor regarding the settlement agreement I suspect she got and the terms around confidentiality.

ARoseInHarlem · 16/08/2020 16:14

I don't think MM is that bright. She married and seems quite happy with H. He's hardly a towering intellect. I'd still wager that she wears the trousers in that marriage.

She's also not articulate. Her unscripted sentences meander, use 57 words when 10 (or sometimes none) would do, contain poor grammar and syntax. It's very difficult to be articulate off the cuff. Stephen Fry and Giles Brandreth, for example, are very articulate. Bojo isn't. Being articulate comes from a love of and ease with the chosen language. Not everybody cares for it or can manage it. If the Prime Minister du jour can't manage it, one can hardly beat MM for it. (I think the last, properly articulate Prime Minister we had was probably John Major? Maggie? Harold Wilson?)

She also isn't well-spoken. I think people are confusing softly-spoken with well-spoken. She isn't articulate enough to be well-spoken imo.

Her scripted speeches are performed emotion. The content is feeling, not intellect. This is the background she comes from: acting, lifestyle blogging (which is parlaying emotions into the sale/purchase of things). She's good at this. She knows how to convey a specific image (the southern california, boho chic, expensively ungroomed image) very well. Not so good at conveying an unfamiliar image (eg wife in the RF).

It makes complete sense that she felt out of place in the UK, and is now happy to be home. Yoga, selective vegan-ness, a certain aesthetic, a strongly held entitlement to happiness, carefully manicured nature, expensive and hypocritical woke liberalness - she's the quintessential Californian girl. By marrying H, she's moved up a few rungs financially, but at a terrible, terrible cost to her and her family (and maybe friends). This too is, arguably, quintessentially American.

Separately, I'd be pretty confident guessing that Kate's frostiness at the Commonwealth Service was the culmination of a series of interactions/happenings. If FF is the best MM can manage about Kate, you have to wonder what went before.

EthelMayFergus · 16/08/2020 16:17

Kate has been criticised for being 'cool' and 'aloof' towards Meghan and I think this book proves that she was absolutely right to be wary of her, and is a good judge of character.

MissEliza · 16/08/2020 16:27

Good at understanding what was required. GrinGrinGrin
I also think it's shocking that former employees, such as the night nurse, will be bound by NDAs but it's ok for their former employers to say negative things publicly.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/08/2020 16:29

scaevola I wouldn't disagree with a word of your post regarding the principles here, and FWIW I admire your faith that they'll be correctly followed when it comes to anything concerning the RF

I only wish I shared it ...

MoggyP · 16/08/2020 16:32

Did I misread, or did they really go through 3 nannies already?

SunbathingDragon · 16/08/2020 17:39

One of the intentions of Finding Freedom is clearly to pull down Kate but instead Meghan just shows herself as desperately insecure whilst feeling the need to (and failing to) compete with her.

When you read through the digs and criticisms of Kate, I can’t help but think that it that’s all they have then Kate clearly doesn’t do much to criticise.

As for smoking, so what if Kate smokes? If you google the royal family to check it out there are pictures of Harry and Meghan smoking and newspaper stories implying both William and Kate also smoke. Yet there are also stories linking Harry and Meghan to cannabis (allegedly at Meghan’s first wedding guests were given a bag of pot) which is far more damaging. Once again, you have to question how and why the authors thought what they wrote was favourable towards Meghan and Harry.

KatherineParr4 · 16/08/2020 18:13

Camilla is a smoker and Margaret certainly was.

MissEliza · 16/08/2020 18:31

From the various excerpts I've heard, the whole book seems to any substance or concrete evidence to why M and H felt so hard done by. Or am I missing something?
I'd love to be a fly in the wall in various royal residences these days!

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 16/08/2020 18:41

Delightful that she felt the need to tell us about the pillowcases on the train and the queens bath tub 🙄

This is clearly MMs diary vomited onto paper. She's a horrible woman and Harry is going to look back in absolute horror.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 16/08/2020 18:42

Bath time Confused

Welcometothelifeboatparty · 16/08/2020 18:57

This is clearly MM's diary vomited onto paper

Classic! I salute you 🤣

WindsorBlues · 16/08/2020 19:09

The page that says she will be bigger than Diana, and this eye roll "Meghan was a trailblazer - a woman who confidently inhabited a realm that had once been considered off limits"

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YgritteSnow · 16/08/2020 19:16

"The danger to them is that Meghan is going to be bigger than Diana"

SunbathingDragon · 16/08/2020 19:16

@WindsorBlues

The page that says she will be bigger than Diana, and this eye roll "Meghan was a trailblazer - a woman who confidently inhabited a realm that had once been considered off limits"
Which parallel universe did this happen?

It’s odd all the many MM supporters that were always on these threads aren’t here defending book, especially since some were very vigilant about the ridiculous rumours that had been in the papers are blind sites which are now repeated in the book.

SunbathingDragon · 16/08/2020 19:27

@YgritteSnow

"The danger to them is that Meghan is going to be bigger than Diana"
Even if that is true, which I doubt (and personally find the comment funny), she won’t be bigger than Diana in any positive way and Diana has never been bigger than the monarchs. In history wives of monarchs haven’t been notable in comparison to their husbands and wives of the sixth (and counting) in live to the throne usually aren’t even a footnote!
Oldbutstillgotit · 16/08/2020 19:28

Yes I too have noticed the absence of a few posters since FF was published !

LaMarschallin · 16/08/2020 19:49

Oldbutstillgotit

Yes I too have noticed the absence of a few posters since FF was published !

Too busy doing book-signings? Smile

FannyCann · 16/08/2020 19:51

OMG. That page!!!

"Harry and Meghan were already propelling the monarchy to new heights around the world".

And Meghan had been widely embraced by the public. That awful, snobby, unspeakable R word British public eh.

And feminists were praising her.

The levels of delusion are certainly reaching new heights!

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