Harry and Meghan News thread

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I thought we could have a thread for latest news. MN did say they didn't mind one or two threads. And no rules except stick to MN guidelines. It's Meghans birthday today I just read. And the Queen has wished her a very happy birthday on the royal Instagram page according to that popular Oracle the DM.

@SunbathingDragon

The Washington Post says: Understandably, the Sussexes have hardly endeared themselves to a British public who cherish traditional royal service. By contrast, much of America has been delighted to accept the couple with open arms, spinning the fable that Meghan was cast out — not for her selfish personal failings that defy royal service — but rather, due to — wait for it — racism. Though not all of us on this side of the ocean are embracing of our American duchess. I do wonder how many much of America is compared to not all of us on this side of the ocean and whether option is swaying more from one side to the other.

So, just to be clear, the article that was linked to is the Washington Times not the Post. Very different publications.

Unless there is another article from the Post somewhere?

I think what their behaviour is like from now on will help define what the American public think of them. The British public have made up their minds already IMHO.

Sorry @OVienna, that was a mistype. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I meant the Washington Times. The quote is from the Washington Times.

I think they will be feted still wherever they go. I doubt very much if people will drop them due to them not being in favour in the UK. Edward and Mrs S seemed to be able to ride on the coattails of their notoriety throughout their lives and I doubt not using HRH will make an iotas difference in the USA.

They are a rich, famous, mixed race couple attached to British royalty. They will land on their feet wherever they go, whilst having the backing of Daddy's money. Sad to still rely on your parent when you are middle-aged, but that is the way H has been allowed to be. Like Prick Andrew, the second son appears to be allowed to get away with anything with very few consequences, and others picking up the pieces.

Apologies if this has already been answered but has there been a positive review about the book ?

@Oldbutstillgotit

Apologies if this has already been answered but has there been a positive review about the book ?

Not aware of one in the media. I think all have veered between scathing and it not being very good. The Telegraph’s is the least complementary. I’d expect the Daily Mail etc not to be flattering but even The Guardian struggled to be anything other than negative. www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/10/finding-freedom-by-omid-scobie-and-carolyn-durand-harry-and-meghan-and-the-making-of-a-modern-royal-family

Just read Jan Moir in the DM. Ouch !

The New York Times was pretty sympathetic.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/books/review/finding-freedom-omid-scobie-carolyn-durand.amp.html

Ha I just read that Jan Moir art8, it's great.

[quote cheezy]The New York Times was pretty sympathetic.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/books/review/finding-freedom-omid-scobie-carolyn-durand.amp.html[/quote]
It’s still not a good review about the book though. You can be very sympathetic towards H&M but still not think the book is good. The article you have linked even says the book failed to deliver or answer pressing questions.

@BlogTheBlogger

I think they will be feted still wherever they go. I doubt very much if people will drop them due to them not being in favour in the UK. Edward and Mrs S seemed to be able to ride on the coattails of their notoriety throughout their lives and I doubt not using HRH will make an iotas difference in the USA.

They are a rich, famous, mixed race couple attached to British royalty. They will land on their feet wherever they go, whilst having the backing of Daddy's money. Sad to still rely on your parent when you are middle-aged, but that is the way H has been allowed to be. Like Prick Andrew, the second son appears to be allowed to get away with anything with very few consequences, and others picking up the pieces.

But Harry is not Edward. Edward was King and arguably should have remained King, Harry is now 6th in line to the throne and will only get lower as years go on.

MM didn't want to quit the Monarchy as The Queen needed as much support as possible to maximise her legacy

Where has this garbage come from? There was no reference, so is it from the book or somewhere else?

@Puzzledandpissedoff its in the FF book

Oh dear . How can someone be so self absorbed ?

Thanks, WindsorBlues ... yet more slurry then

I can't even begin to fathom the mind which could write something like that

NYT review is very remiss, they should be challenging their involvement in the publication more assertively, given the backdrop to the legal context in the UK. Maybe she doesn't care though.

Best reviews have been Hadley's in the Guardian and the one written by the biographer in the DT.

The size of her ego still never ceases to amaze.

I can't tell whether it's deliberate or an unforeseen side effect but quite a few of the reviews blame Harry for being obsessed with the media, or for not preparing M well enough, or for not understanding his position within the RF.
I wonder if the authors made a conscious decision to tarnish H's reputation in order to polish M's.

And yet HMTQ didn't take them up on the "collaboration". It would seem she thought she could manage, thank you very much. Nice move, Liz. 🤴

There's lots of mentions of Harry getting into "incandescent rage" over press intrusion etc.

It's presented as rather noble but adults (and especially adults who have been soldiers) should be able to control their anger.

There doesn't seem to be any mention of Meghan being angry ever, only upset.

I can't help wondering if he is being set up.

Positive press is welcomed, not so positive is intrusive.
If ye flee wi the craws, you get shot wi the craws.

quite a few of the reviews blame Harry for being obsessed with the media, or for not preparing M well enough, or for not understanding his position within the RF. I wonder if the authors made a conscious decision to tarnish H's reputation in order to polish M's.

I'm not sure I'd credit these particular authors with anything so subtle, but Harry should have prepared Meghan for the reality of Royal life, if it all came as such a shock to her. Maybe when William was notoriously urging Harry to 'take his time', he was hinting that he hadn't quite spelled it out clearly enough, if there had been some gushing 'how we plan to change the world' kitchen dinners.

@BalloonSlayer

There's lots of mentions of Harry getting into "incandescent rage" over press intrusion etc.

It's presented as rather noble but adults (and especially adults who have been soldiers) should be able to control their anger.

There doesn't seem to be any mention of Meghan being angry ever, only upset.

I can't help wondering if he is being set up.

Yes, I think that it is very interesting too. Haven't worked that one out.

Oh definitely H was very naive about the demands that would be placed on his future wife. According to reports in the media recently, he was looking for a celebrity wife in the belief she'd be better placed to handle all the attention. He did suggest in the engagement interview that he believed M could cope given her background. However, unfortunately, the attention royal wives endure is a little different to an actress of M's stature.

I don't think I've ever encountered an adult who gushed about 'wanting to change the world.' Even Obama at his most inspiring used more nuanced and thoughtful language.