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Harry and Meghan, more news!

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callmeadoctor · 20/06/2020 08:24

New thread following on old one: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/3932323-Harry-and-Meghan-news?msgid=97617755

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Inspiralcarpetry · 24/06/2020 14:42

*bow, not now!

Roussette · 24/06/2020 14:45

Supposedly walked into a room, people didn't rise for him and now, so he said 'let's do that again, shall we?"

Oh my! I sort of can believe that of him. From what I've read he is not a popular royal.. not within the Palace, and without.

meercat23 · 24/06/2020 14:46

I can imagine that some things might be hard to give up. Perhaps also it is hard to know what you will miss until they are gone. Who knows.

candilemon · 24/06/2020 14:48

H might be “happier” - though I’m not sure he is ever happy, really - in the US because he is too envious of Wills’ position as top puppy.

Inspiralcarpetry · 24/06/2020 14:52

I think the Andrew anecdote was on one of those RF TV programmes you watch when there's nothing else on!
A retired Forces friend of mine was presented to Andrew and he said there wasn't even eye contact.
My father was at an after dinner speech he made years ago and was distinctly underwhelmed. Dad's summary went along the lines of 'pompous arse!'Grin

Roussette · 24/06/2020 14:55

I'm not sure he is jealous of his brother, personal opinion of course. I think he thanks his lucky stars he's the spare and not the heir and not in that position actually!

There's far more freedom for Charles's siblings... Edward can do his own thing, likewise Anne... and well... Andrew, he's roamed round the world doing what he wants... till now.

Cartesiandebt · 24/06/2020 15:14

Harry never used to give off a jealous vibe, but It’s come across lately, since his wedding I suppose.

Samcro · 24/06/2020 15:31

its odd isn't . I would have put money on it being the other way round.
maybe they just both envy parts of each others lives.

EthelMayFergus · 24/06/2020 15:40

Harry never used to give off a jealous vibe, but it's come across lately. I agree with that, Kate has been with William for about 17 years now and there are so many pictures of the three of them laughing together over the years, it's really sad what's happened with them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/06/2020 15:43

*I wonder if its hard to give it up? if your used people bowing and calling you sir. you give it up and have to get used to just being "Harry"

We'll never know the truth of course, but I'd have thought it would be harder to give up the bit where "somebody else" makes everything right - and if it can't be made right they'll call in a few favours to make sure it's presented the way they'd prefer

Whereas now Harry's pitched into what's broadly a meritocracy, where folk are less inclined to bend the knee according to royal whim

Roussette · 24/06/2020 15:48

I've not seen the jealous vibe at all, but maybe I'm not that perceptive. I think they've only got each other, and are deep down, close.

Bit like me and my siblings to be honest, not in touch as much as some. We could not be more different, but there's a bond.

ARoseInHarlem · 24/06/2020 16:25

A propos of none of the recent posts, last night I received an email out of the blue from a woman I knew ten or so years ago. We’d both just moved to our DHs’ home country. I always found them a bit odd as a couple: he was the (mega bucks) earner, but very quiet, softly spoken, not especially opinionated. Very clever man, really good at his job. She did all the talking for them as a couple: loads of chat, very charming, lots of smooth laughing, very easy to get on with but I also always felt she was assessing me (for usefulness to her, to establish her own standing relative to mine - I never felt I could take her at face value). There was also lots of her being tactile with him, and he accepting it if not exactly reciprocating it. They were very comfortable with each other physically, but the hand-holding, linked arms, hands on shoulder while smiling etc were all initiated by her. Literally never by him. I found it a very weird dynamic, but it was none of my business and they seemed perfectly happy together.

Fast forward 10 years and to this email I just received. They have two (gorgeous!) kids, live in an affluent suburb, and are looking to buy a second home in a super-mega-exclusive seaside enclave (think the Côte d’Azur or equivalent). Both of them come from not exactly humble beginnings, but steady working- to middle-class beginnings. Their parents did the best they could for them and their siblings, who’ve all ended up more comfortable and secure than their parents.

Relayed the info to my DH (they knew each other from before, the wives are the new additions) and he was shocked. The other DH always used to be super-dismissive of the set they now seem to be running with, and he’s beyond shocked that he agreed to his DC being privately educated (one thing apparently the DH apparently was very vocal about: state school educated and went to Oxford and beyond).

Looking back, it seems to me now that the tactile clutching and so forth by the wife was part of her MO. It’s as though she engulfed him in her comfort and love and “it’s just you and me together, forever”, but that vision of togetherness was on her terms. She’s clearly convinced him that her way is the way they’ll go forward as a family, and he’s clearly bought into that as part of the deal of building a family with her.

In and of itself, each party seems to have got what they needed from the marriage. But it seems mercenary to me: she very obviously (to me) saw his earning potential + soft-target personality and honed into the latter to access the former. But then again, maybe he knew this and went along with it willingly, as they seem happy enough as a couple and a family. But considering how he used to be versus what he is now, as my DH said, “yeah but why did he have to betray his roots for [the wife]?”

miri1985 · 24/06/2020 16:51

Archie is suing for invasion of privacy for the photos that were taken of Meghan carrying him on the hike in Vancouver last January.

Even though it happened in Canada and they're suing an LA papparazzi agency the case is being taken in the UK

Considering you couldn't even see Archie's face I'm interested if they'll succeed

extra.ie/2020/06/24/entertainment/celebrity/prince-harry-meghan-markles-archie-sue-photo-agency/amp?__twitter_impression=true

ButteryPuffin · 24/06/2020 16:52

From more book news to more legal news. Archie (yes, apparently) sues over the photograph taken in Canada as an invasion of privacy

extra.ie/2020/06/24/entertainment/celebrity/prince-harry-meghan-markles-archie-sue-photo-agency/amp?__twitter_impression=true

ButteryPuffin · 24/06/2020 16:57

miri great minds!

ARose your story reminds me of someone I knew where a similar thing happened. And it's often people who have seemed relaxed and easy going before but with particular things important to them, yet those things are given up. I'm sure many would say it's all part of the art of compromise in marriage, and I know there's definitely a need for that Smile But I absolutely recognise the thing you're talking about.

BrieAndChilli · 24/06/2020 17:12

It’s not like anyone didn’t already know what Archie looked like! They have posted photos of him to the media themselves. I could understand if they were the sort of celebrities who never posted pictures of their children’s faces like holly Willoughby or Kristen Bell. They only post shots from the back or put stickers over the faces.

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 24/06/2020 17:14

www.blpawards.org/competition/photo-rights. This relates to the UK and I presume as they have sued in the UK it comes under UK rules. I can’t see how they have a case.

Mamamia456 · 24/06/2020 17:17

It's being reported that Harry and Meghan have signed up with the Harry Walker Agency who have the Obama and Clintons in their books, so it looks as though they are going down the public speaking route.

ButteryPuffin · 24/06/2020 17:21

Harry had better start writing a new speech then. As far as I can tell, he only has one and he's used it.

Lynda07 · 24/06/2020 17:22

I think well known people are entitled to choose which photographs they share with the public, especially when their children are involved, and object to any being published to haven't agreed. The 'Cambridges' do that (and lovely photos they are too); it strikes me that Meghan and Harry are trying to do likewise.

alliwantisagoodnightssleep · 24/06/2020 17:35

But I thought it was only the evil British press who were stalking them and taking their picture when they didn’t want them to. They gave up all the protection of the royal family for being stalked by the paparazzi. I fear that we will have scenes reminiscent of Diana’s days when lockdown lifts in the US and they are going about their lives.

Sittingontheveranda · 24/06/2020 17:47

ARoseInHarlem I don’t understand your story at all. People change especially after they have children. There are reasons people say children are life changing 😀

We all have examples of that surely. An ex of mine is French. He lives in an English speaking country but also said he would educate his future children through French. It was important to him. His child does not go to a French school or even a French language school. His circumstances and mindset obviously changed. For one thing he didn’t marry a French speaker which undoubtedly changed his view on being educated only through French.

I think I’d be more concerned about someone who stuck rigidly to ideas they had in their twenties tbh.

Another old friend of mine moved to an expensive suburb outside London. He married someone who earned a lot more than him. His ten year old goes to a private school, they have two holiday homes in Europe and when I speak to my old friend, his chat revolves about money, costs and material possessions. Underneath it all, I get glimpses of the old friend but rarely. But it has been twenty years since I saw him weekly and his life went in a different direction, one he clearly embraced.

Serenster · 24/06/2020 18:09

I was pondering why the lawsuit lists Meghan as HRH, but it was in fact filed in March, that article says. I'm surprised it's taken the press so long to come across the claim form. I'm also intrigued why they would sue in the UK courts, since the photos were taken in Canada and the agency is based in LA. Maybe those jurisdictions have laxer privacy laws than the UK? Anyway, so many lawsuits. At least their lawyers will be appreciating them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/06/2020 19:08

I wonder if that piece from "extra" (whoever they are) is just another silly story?

It all sounds a bit unlikely and they'd hardly be the first to make something up

Oldbutstillgotit · 24/06/2020 20:08

Omid Scobie has tweeted

A source tells @HarpersBazaarUS the couple will engage "in moderated discussions and keynote speeches with trade associations, corporations and community forums."
Topics will relate to the social issues our world is facing today, including racial justice and gender equity