Harry and Meghan news

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www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1292590/meghan-markle-prince-harry-la-career-plans-latest-royal-news

I agree with Sousome too.
I can’t imagine spending a lot of time on a thread which I essentially disagree with , pointing out to most posters that their view is wrong. Because I believe I am right , and need to put everyone else right too.

And I don't think there should be a corner of MN to continually post unpleasant negatives about another woman for ummm... over a year.

And bearing in mind MNHQ have said they are going to keep MM threads to a minimum, all opinions are allowed on the threads that there are.

She might make a very good President. It would be fun to see her go up against the Donald.

@TheNavigator don't be disingenuous- you had already started to put a wee negative spin on it when you posted the dubious info.

I'm not being disingenuous. Meghan Markle said, in her own words, that she was upset at tabloid coverage because it wasn't "fair". If she seeks a political career (and we don't know if the report is true or not), what she endured at the hands of the tabloids will be child's play, in comparison to what political operatives will report on her.

So, I repeat the question - (if she so chooses) how would a political career make Meghan Markle "look bad"?

Its been interesting today, had a look online, and found out that a lot of people are not what they seem.

If people want a thread where only one view is allowed, they really need to set up a Facebook type group.

Yes, agree. MN is a public forum. Anyone can post anywhere.

I think the different views are interesting to hear. I don’t like echo chambers and like the dialogue.

I feel mildly positive towards H&M. I had hoped it would work out here in the UK and I really hope they will figure things out. However, I have described their legal issues as a train wreck (and questioned their advice) and I am not keen on how they handle certain other things (communication via web page as opposed to face to face with the Queen, etc), so maybe I am a negative poster ?

Some things really annoy me currently. I cannot stand the rhetoric of “heartbroken”, “it was my destiny” and “I felt compelled to”. It sounds like a trashy romance novel. I am very aware that these are not quotes from MM though. But maybe they come from a source close to MM? Or are the papers doing this to have a dig at her?

Don’t get me wrong, I really liked the school speech and I really think that MM is in a position to do something great. I just cannot stand the way it is written about it?

I would be really interested to hear what some of you more mildly positive posters (Samcro and Rousette springs to mind, but anyone else really) think about that?

@Samcro had a look online, and found out that a lot of people are not what they seem.

What does that mean?

MoreHippoThanPenguin to be honest I don't believe a lot that is written about them, if they actually say it, then I do.
These days so much is made up, read any story about a famous person and it will say
A source close to them...
Who are these sources? How come every famous person from Katie price to Beyonce has them.

Samcro, I respect that view. To be honest, I just don’t know. So much is made up, but sometimes the things about H&M seems to be positive (MM felt “compelled to” to something about racism- which is truly awful. Or “heartbroken” that her friend would do something truly upsetting), but the way her feelings are described is not.

I guess to me, this feeds into the possibility of a media strategy gone wrong. A description that MM really wanted to find out what she could do to help the fight against racism would really have excited me. A description that MM was upset that her friend got it so wrong and that she was trying to find out what had happened would have been so relatable.

Or the papers could just be trying to really make her appear annoying? Which I guess is possible.

Sometimes I just read the papers and feel quite old. I am not that emotional and I was raised by a grandmother who wasn’t really into displaying emotion (she felt a lot though).

I don't read the papers. Makes me sound thick, but so many of them have their own agenda now.
I do think they like to pull strong women apart.
Mainly i just get fed up with meghan getting ghe blame for everything.
But its always been that way, all the incoming women have had a hard time.
But i do believe it has been harder for meghan.
I think unlike diana who had sarah, they seemed for a time to be friends.
M didn't have that and it must have been quite lonely.

@MoreHippoThanPenguin

I agree more with your post than anyone would give me credit for!

Sometimes I just read the papers and feel quite old. I am not that emotional and I was raised by a grandmother who wasn’t really into displaying emotion (she felt a lot though)

This for me too.

I just feel that they have a lot to give if only they were given a chance*. But I'm afraid that there is a huge swathe of people out there who won't countenance anything they do ... as positive. I really feel that getting out of the RF was a trigger for some to think...
why aren't we good enough?
how can you do this to us?
you had everything and you want to leave?

Bottom line is.. Harry married an american mixed race woman and it was never going to end well for some people. I just hope, against all the negatives, that he has found his soul mate. He wasn't happy before, I hope she is the ying to his yang.

• I know some will say they did have everything. It wasn't everything that Harry wanted I feel. This would've happened at some point and better now than later I feel.

And I also hope this is a big chance for the RF to transform itself. It certainly needs it.

I can’t see that Meghan could have a political career whilst in any way linked to the royal family. Since H&M haven’t given them up and continued to use HRH and their Sussex titles up until the end of March, I’m inclined to believe to the reports that say keeping their titles is very important to them. So it would mean losing the titles to make an attempt at a political career with no guarantee of success. I would imagine that ultimately, if you go into politics as an American, you are looking at being the president and if Donald Trump can do it, I should think every American could have a chance.

I imagine you have to listen to advice in politics though. Not their strength.

Samcro, I agree with you regarding the papers. The room for covert agendas is staggering. I usually try to balance them though... the Guardian and the telegraph on an issue. I do like the Sunday Times. And I do hate when women get a harder time. That is everywhere.

Rousette, those feelings are a big thing to have in common . I also agree with you that a lot of people felt slighted and not good enough when they left which turned them hostile.

I do think they were given a chance, but it is always difficult to put yourself in someone else’s position.

I feel that they sometimes (both H&M) comes across as very enthusiastic, but emotional. They believe they know what is right and wrong and they want to make an impact. However, in order to do that (on a bigger, charity scale) they will need a clear strategy, attention to detail and a smooth PR/legal machine.

I have been looking at this more from a PR / brand point of view (admittedly, I know very little of that, but some opinions here have been interesting). They have been badly advised or not listening to advice I think.

From a legal point of view (of which I know more) I am surprised at how many things seems to have gone against them. Again, I am just not sure if this is part of a bigger strategy (lawsuit against MoS for the sole purpose of bringing this to everyone’s attention) or if they have been badly advised?

I feel that they sometimes (both H&M) comes across as very enthusiastic, but emotional. They believe they know what is right and wrong and they want to make an impact. However, in order to do that (on a bigger, charity scale) they will need a clear strategy, attention to detail and a smooth PR/legal machine

Yes, really agree with this.

I've read speculation about Meghan running for President numerous times over the past few months, generally from British sources and commentators. My American point of view is that this will happen when pigs fly. Neither of them have ever mentioned any such aspirations and the American press would eat them alive. (OK, OK, if Trump can win, anyone can--but he's an anomaly.) If Harry hated being a working royal, can you imagine how much he would hate being the First Man or whatever that position would be called?

DulciUke, I doubt Meghan Markle would run for president. I assumed either the state assembly, or Congress. But she would be a target, I believe, for the GOP machine (I assume she is a Democrat) in either of those cases.

To be frank, I don't think it's likely, not because of reputation, but just because a number of people desire those positions, and one needs to raise a lot of money to get there. But, who knows? A decade ago, I never imagined Donald Trump would be president.

• I really feel that getting out of the RF was a trigger for some to think... why aren't we good enough?* how can you do this to us? you had everything and you want to leave?

I'd interpret the horrible and continuous criticisms about MM as them thinking......
'you weren't good enough for our RF'
'we can say whatever we want, as often as we want because MM won't ever leave the UK. She married to be a member of the RF and live in a palace and she won't give that up in a million years'.

They then became incandescent with rage when she and H said they were off.
Suddenly it became a matter of lack of respect for the RF.
The irony!

I have lost count the amount of times Kanye West has said that he is going to run for president. I'm still waiting to see his name on a ballot paper. Meghan Markle sounds like she is the same. All talk and no action

I still don't know exactly why they left.

@TreeTopTim

I have lost count the amount of times Kanye West has said that he is going to run for president. I'm still waiting to see his name on a ballot paper. Meghan Markle sounds like she is the same. All talk and no action

MM has never said she is going to run for president for goodness sake! It is made up in order to have a reason to snark at her. It is depressing how some posters are unable or unwilling to recognise fact from speculation.

@ Viviennemary I agree . I felt ( and still do) that they had a lot to offer and could have shaken up the RF a bit but their desire fir control and money was their undoing .

All talk and no action
Her history was announcing projects after something had been done. They had to confirm Archewell as The Telegraph had found some domain information.

I don't get why they wanted more money. They had plenty in the bank and most of their living expenses paid for. She could easily have taken a step back for a year or two after Archie was born and not done many royal duties. Maybe she didn't like being stuck at Frogmore. It's not a very appealing place compared to other royal homes. IMHO. Was she bored. It wouldn't have helped having no family in the UK and probably no close friends here. Kate has got a lot of family support and I would imagine a network of friends to call on.