Harry and Meghan news

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www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1292590/meghan-markle-prince-harry-la-career-plans-latest-royal-news

@Roussette She has over 1000 outfits and lots of the same shoe - different colour and same colour but different heights (eg. The Rossi in the same shade and all three heights) and same colour and same type (more than one pair of a favourite).

How do you know this??

It will be interesting to see how the Sussexes respond to this. Whilst I am not sure Jessica was being 'racist' there was definitely a lot of privilege and entitlement at work with her behaviour. She got angry and she immediately used her position of status and power to try and damage another person's livelihood. She knew that she had the power and status to take someone down and she didn't hesitate to do it. To do this to a black single mother at this time is just bewildering.

It can't be the first time she has done something like this, it is just the first time she has been publicly called out on it.

I’m sorry, that should have been thisenglishlife not Roussette.

But where is this level of detail coming from?

She got angry and she immediately used her position of status and power to try and damage another person's livelihood

Well, she is one of the (self-appointed) "leaders" (of something)...

I don’t think Harry and Meghan could or will say anything regarding Jessica
She has been outed as a bully and what she said was outrageous and indefensible

She certainly believes she wields a lot of power and is happy to use it to punish people who dare to question her
Horrible

No I don't think they will either. But I wonder if Jessica M will still be her friend and appear at 'occasions'. Not that there will be many for the foreseeable future. I did read about this but couldn't really work out what went on. It's not clear whether the two people involved even knew each other.

I followed the Harry Meghan threads and enjoyed reading over them every morning but this thread feels very different. It’s hard to read and enjoy it with a couple of posters constantly picking at every post. It’s really unpleasant.

There’s a thread for Andrew and another for other royals and even a happy thread so I don’t get why the posters can’t just post there because they defiantly don’t seem happy to just chat here. Ruining it for everyone else.

@Gardenlone I agree. I like reading these threads for the chat but certain people seem determined to pick arguments.
Regarding Jessica Mulroney, I don't see what she actually did wrong from what I've read. Is it because she threatened legal action?

But where is this level of detail coming from?

from a crib sheet?

MissEliza This is my take on the whole Jessica M thing, happy to be corrected if it's got holes in though...

Sasha (single mum, black, influencer, Canadian) asked for those in privileged positions to add their voice to BLM. JM is an 'acquaintance' of Sasha, read her post, and for reasons known only to herself took offence and saw it as a personal criticism. JM contacted Sasha's brands and caused trouble, then told Sasha that she would contact future brands that Sasha could potentially work with and have her shut down, so essentially trying to end her livelihood. Sasha went public. JM did the 'I can't be racist as I have a black best friend' (Meghan). Then JM publicly apologised, but privately sent a dm with 'Liable (sic) suit. Good luck.' Sasha went public with that too. JM is currently being 'cancelled' with her TV shows being withdrawn and losing 000's of IG followers.

MM hasn't commented, and if she has any sense she won't.

@EthelMayFergus thank you.

Thanks for explaining Ethel.

Wow that is dreadful re JM. If this is the sort of person and attitude HaM are seeking views and opinions from it somehow could explain some of the aggressive stances they have taken over the stepping back.

They clearly thought they were very privileged demonstrated by stating they were collaborating with HMQ and the Immediate Heirs to the throne when detailing their wishes for their future with the trappings and status and wealth (including funded protection as Internationally Important People)

So they’ve ignored the advice of the RF for friends with dubious self serving self absorbed characters it appears

*I followed the Harry Meghan threads and enjoyed reading over them every morning but this thread feels very different. It’s hard to read and enjoy it with a couple of posters constantly picking at every post. It’s really unpleasant

Ahhh... so you want a thread of negativity for MM without anyone pushing back... got you!

I don't think it's right to have a corner of MN to tear into one woman continually over a very long period of time.

I'm not picking an argument, I'm just pushing back at some of the comments that I feel are unfair. Why can't I do that, or do you just want an echo chamber?

BTW, lots of different posters post about other Royals... Sophie, W&K, Charles ... even Duchess of Kent

@thisenglishlife

How do you have so much minutia of detail especially about Kate, DoC. I’ve noticed it before. And it’s always very critical

I think it was internationally protected people that they gave as the reason that they should have funded security by the country where they were living. But not sure if everybody thinks of them as internationally important people too.

“liable suit”

so you want a thread of negativity for MM without anyone pushing back... got you!

That’s really mean spirited to say.

If it’s negative, report it. I don’t see how it helps matters to respond to posts with “do you have any evidence? But that’s your opinion. I disagree and I’m entitled to disagree. But what about Andrew? But what about Kate?”

It doesn’t add anything to the thread.

My contribution, although it’s been said better than others:

I do think it was inappropriate to spend all that money on a wedding and renovations when they were planning to leave or be part time royals. I think they know it’s inappropriate and that’s why they’re paying part back. It doesn’t mean we can’t feel upset about it though.

The Jessica Mulroney thing is terrible. It will be interesting to see how Meghan reacts. I wouldn’t associate with someone who did this but then I wouldn’t be friends with them in the first place.

I’ll go back to the gardening boards now were I can at least get through a whole thread without posters picking apart every post.

The trouble is... MN will not do anything about negative posts as the sheer number of threads about MM prove.

I don't think it's mean spirited of me to say that... there's enough threads out there to back that up. I have tried to be polite, fair, do sources wherever possible, avoid talking about Prince Andrew (because I was told not to lol) and all of that.

So... every now and again, I don't think it's wrong for someone who is more of the positive side, comes on a Harry & Meghan thread and says... hang on, that's not strictly true, or
wait a minute, I haven't seen that, or
why do you say that? or
Surely that was not the case because blah blah..

It being a public forum where anyone can go anywhere, I'm just not sure what you actually want to be honest.

Gardening is good, not much to dispute on that.

I've read some things about JM on Twitter. It seems she used her friendship with MM and MM being a target of racism (didn't say her name but it's obviously her) as a reason why she 'understood' racism. Oh my word! My dcs are of mixed ethnicity and ds1 had a real problem with some boys in year 6. Their dps would often defend their dcs by saying 'but we have Pakistani/black/Asian friends' therefore they couldn't be racist.!

@ Gardenlone I agree with you . I used to enjoy most of the comments plus I learned a lot of historical facts but now any criticism is being shut down by various posters .
I have said this before and I will say it again but MM is not the first ( nor will she be the last) new member of the RF to be criticised . I am not saying it is right but it is a fact . I am old enough to remember the abuse hurled at Diana, Sarah and as far back as Margaret especially when she took up with Roddy what’shisname.
Even further back , my DM says that many people were unhappy when Prince Philip married HM. Apparent he was referred to as Phil The Greek.
As I said it is not right but MM does seem to be incredibly thin skinned .
I will now put in my tin hat .

I wouldn't dream of shutting down historical facts, I find them fascinating, no one is doing that on here.

I too remember the nastiness about Sarah and others in the RF. I do think 'this' is more because of social media taking off and because there's been a sea of change about the RF.
Just my opinion.

Princess Margaret in her day came in for a tremendous amount of criticism. I've read a couple of biographies about her. And Princess Michael of Kent doesn't get a good word said about her though she has a very low profile these days which is a very good thing.

If it’s negative, report it.

Mere negativity doesn't make a post "reportable" in the sense that MNHQ will step in. But negative posts can be challenged on the thread. That is actually part of normal "chat" in RL as well as on here.

That is actually part of normal "chat" in RL as well as on here.

I certainly hope you don’t walk up to strangers discussing H&M in real life and demand evidence for their opinions.