Harry and Meghan News ( Finding Freedom!)

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twitter.com/i/web/status/1261788333577056257 This is so funny if anybody fancies a giggle, royals eye rolling!!!

@TangibleTuTu

Yes I think they fascinate everyone, but not in a way that will create any respectable source of regular income. I just can't think of a way they can live their luxury lifestyle without handouts from Prince-Charles-aka-the-public.

They must be kicking themselves that *

Meghan didn’t make a deal to keep working before they got married, they could have gotten closer to the ‘half in half out’ model that they seem to have wanted that way, and without all the ill-feeling.*

I imagine she was told in no uncertain terms that she was not allowed to continue acting, something she agreed to because she was going to be living in the UK anyway. She was even told d to remove her Tig blog, there was no chance she could make any sort of half in/half out deal before she was married and even before she had a child.

Some reports say H&M planned to step back from the RF after they got married all along. The media were horrific to her. I assume that made their final decision to leave, very easy.

I imagine she was told in no uncertain terms that she was not allowed to continue acting, something she agreed to because she was going to be living in the UK anyway.

HMQ offered her the option of continuing her acting career (a la Big Suze, Sophie Winkleman, who's married to Lord Frederick Windsor) but they insisted that no, they really wanted to be full-time royals and hit the ground running with good deeds...

And I agree with the PP that it would be a mistake to infer that H&M have any potential bankability from the interest in discussing them here, it's just a slow-motion car-crash that people find fascinating, a bit like the Jade Goody phenomenon

But the deal could have been that on getting engaged, they could have left then. It seems plausible that they always wanted to leave.
If they’d done it then, Harry would have left his FT royal job to marry Meghan and be with her in her FT acting career, which she would have carried on with.

He’d have left Senior royaldom cleanly and they wouldn’t have had the big ‘state’ wedding and all the welcome to the (Royal) family ‘she never had’ stuff and ‘hitting the ground running‘ which set up an expectation of there being a ‘Fab Four’. They would have started out doing their own thing without this wierd ‘transition’ which lacks a a defined end goal and all the bargaining and petulant press releases that just look awful.

Basically, they wanted to have their cake and eat it. The statement they released in January made that very obvious

I imagine she was told in no uncertain terms that she was not allowed to continue acting, something she agreed to because she was going to be living in the UK anyway. She was even told d to remove her Tig blog, there was no chance she could make any sort of half in/half out deal before she was married and even before she had a child.

She was given the option. They chose to have titles and be fully working members of the RF. Although now it appears that they just wanted the titles and not the work.

Plenty of reports discussed previously say the Queen offered them an option to not take extra titles and for Meghan to continue acting. They declined. Big mistake. Huge (as Vivien says in Pretty Woman)

Basically, they wanted to have their cake and eat it. The statement they released in January made that very obvious

And felt totally entitled to all that. The arrogance and self-importance of the pair of them is staggering.

It seems plausible that they always wanted to leave.

Meghan?! Haahaa! The one who recorded herself many times growing up saying she wanted to be a princess and came out with that bullshit that she didn't know who Harry was? PMSL! He may have wanted to leave, but it's highly doubtful she did.

There was some discussion as to whether W&C were going to have a fourth child. H&M flouncing off probably put paid to that and would, undoubtedly, cause resentment.

Concerning footing the bill for their lives when HMQ dies PW will be the recipient of the Duchy money. Will he, as opposed to his father, be willing to give Harry several million pounds a year pocket money?

Well let's see if the car actually crashes. A lot of people seem to be relishing that. If they go on to find a way to make things work and be successful it seems some onlookers will be gnashing their teeth in fury.

TangibleTuTu You are being far too nice and reasonable.

How do we know that the Queen gave MM the option to continue acting? Sophie Winkleman is not a good comparison. Her dh is way at the bottom of the hierarchy.
I hope M and H do make a go of it and achieve financial independent. I hate free loaders. On a personal note, my fil subsidises my bil and sil. I bloody resent that as dh works his ass off to look after his family but apparently we're meant to feel sorry for bil as he's been unable to achieve anything like his db.

I find the psychological aspect of it so very fascinating and I love the speculation about what’s going on behind the scenes. I’m also following a kind of gut instinct that says that they are unhappy and unsuited as a couple and bringing out the worst in each other... and I’m very curious to see if I’m right, and how the story unfolds.

You might have a point though TangibleTuTu because they’re literally the only slebs I’m interested in hearing about. However that hasn’t translated to following them on Insta and I certainly don’t think I’ll be buying a MegsheartHAsICallHim waterbottle, as and when that might be available.

Well let's see if the car actually crashes. A lot of people seem to be relishing that. If they go on to find a way to make things work and be successful it seems some onlookers will be gnashing their teeth in fury.

Really? Like who, exactly?

You'll never guess.....

Ooh no we'll never guess...

Altogether now!

Tangible I hope they do become financially successful.

It would mean they would stop shamelessly poncing £££millions off Prince Charles via UK taxpayers.

^ this!

How do we know that the Queen gave MM the option to continue acting?

MissEliza it was quite widely reported in different papers (admittedly quoting the same unnamed source) but here is a DM link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7930957/Meghan-Markle-happy-stop-career-working-member-Firm.html

I’ve been on these threads from the outset. I know NOTHING about anyone who came to fame after about 2001. I’ve often wondered what it is about H&M that I find so interesting.

For MM: honestly, I think it’s because I want to see a beautiful woman EARN what she has. I think many women who aren’t beautiful hold a level of resentment/ envy towards beautiful women who seemingly have the world fall into their laps (I know that they don’t, but it does feel that way sometimes to those of us who have had to work hard for the same thing that other women get through charm, drinks with the CEO and just the right type of flirtation). I’m not afraid to admit this. To me it’s part of human nature, that fuels trillion dollar industries aimed at women beautifying themselves. I feel this way about KM too, but in my personal opinion she’s put in her time and just recently grown into her role. Neither woman’s position in the RF is/was easy.

I also mistrust manipulative men and women, and especially those who underestimate others’ intelligence. I mean, I don’t feel this way about Michelle Obama, Angela Merkel, Amal Clooney, Hillary Clinton, Teresa May, Jacinda Ahern etc. These are all accomplished women who’ve worked hard towards their professional goals and who I have never heard gloat or self-aggrandize/ self-promote. Nobody appreciates a woman (or a man) reaching their goals through connections, who they’re dating, who they married - any form of nepotism. It’s cheating.

H&M as a couple: I have become increasingly uncomfortable with commentary on this marriage. I do think this match is a car-crash in slow motion (because I have family members whose marriage fact pattern was strikingly similar to this couple’s, and it has been an unmitigated disaster that is heading towards a very acrimonious resolution). I personally think it’s wonderful to see the two of them holding hands all the time, out together and rarely alone, evidently happy together, working towards a common goal (whatever that may be). It bodes well for them as a couple.

Just some musings.

Anyone watching the PW/football/mental health documentary? Await incoming from HaM!!

I think the car crash analogy is a good one. I feel slightly sickened by them but still can’t stop reading about them. Don’t think this is going to translate into any money for them thought, I won’t buy any Sussex tat.

oh dear, threads and threads ago I got told off for using the car crash analogy....

Not watching it yolo, is it good? I love the positive impact of football. DS plays football and the coaches are amazing. Both my cousin’s boys also live for football (think 15/17 hour practice per week) and it has kept them out of the usual teenage trouble.

I love that initiative from PW.

How do we know that the Queen gave MM the option to continue acting?

Apart from Charles the Queen gave each of her own children the option on whether they wanted their children and spouses to have titles. Andrew accepted them, Anne refused an HRH and Earldom for her husband and therefore her children and Edward requested that his be styled as Viscount / Lady instead of the HRH Prince / Princess that James and Louise are officially entitled too (Letters Patent 1917).

Taking this into consideration I would think it's highly likely that she also extended the option to H&M whether or not Meghan should have a title.

As a child of the sovereign Anne would have been higher up the pecking order than Harry is now when she first got married. I'm too young to remember her first husband but does anyone know if he accompanied her on tours / duties or did he stay largely anonymous because he wasn't titled?