Harry and Meghan News ( Finding Freedom!)

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twitter.com/i/web/status/1261788333577056257 This is so funny if anybody fancies a giggle, royals eye rolling!!!

I agree, Wolf. It seems their whole vision had no basis in reality. First there was the rush to the alter. The flashy wedding. The tiara scramble (if that's true). The writing was on the wall even when they first left - they couldn't use the Sussex Royal brand they were planning on to flog tat and themselves. Then it all went downhill in a big way with C19. And they don't seem to get it or listen to advisers (or they hire poor ones) as you still get these video releases that are at best out-of-touch and at worst insulting - like the I'm just surviving not thriving and no one ever asks me if I'm okay in the middle of a place of desperate poverty and deprivation, or even the one today with their going on about taking a day off work when they have no jobs and coming up for air during this epic year when all they've done is swan around in private jets, give self-important speeches and sofa surf millionaire style. It's all so obtuse and arrogant.

Heard part of her voiceover with the elephants. It was flat. Just, meh. She's no Margot Robbie and with the entertainment industry devastated and the talent pool large, it won't be the money spinner they'd hoped.

So they look like total idiots who are incapable of actually formulating a plan with alternatives in case Plan A goes wrong in addition to being obtuse, arrogant and rather bratty.

I'm actually surprised at MM. She's not unsavvy at all, how on Earth did she think she was just going to walk into a Clooney or Brangelina or Oprah style life? It's easy to say they all worked very hard for many years (Angelina had a leg up, too) to get there, it was far from overnight. Serena Williams is incredibly talented on top of being a canny businesswoman. It's a bit like a 5ft., 3in. 12 stone 38-year-old woman rocking up to Storm Models and saying, 'Yeah, I'd like to sign on with you and you to find me jobs, I don't do castings.'

yy highmarkingsnowmobile. I rather suspect tha t M thought that being a Royal would open every door you could possibly want - which perhaps it does, but only if you are still within the RF and are playing by their rules (which arent actually that difficult - basically, dont scare the horses!)

When will the review take place ? I can’t imagine the RF casting H and M adrift but there isn’t a bottomless pit of money especially to buy a multi million pound house .

Heard part of her voiceover with the elephants. It was flat. Just, meh.

There are actual voiceover actors/actresses who specialise in voiceovers. It's not just a question of being an 'actress' and doing a voiceover as a sideline. There are many experts who are excellent and who have spent their whole career honing their skills. M is not one of them but she does have a 'title'. Will this be enough on her ride through life?

She's not unsavvy at all, how on Earth did she think she was just going to walk into a Clooney or Brangelina or Oprah style life?

This is where H comes in. It all pivots around H - but it does not look like he is as up for it as he may have once been (going purely on the images of how miserable he looks of late).

I saw the elephant programme too and agree her voiceover missed the mark. I thought it was totally flat and have heard far better (I do enjoy a nature documentary!)
I actually think she has a nice speaking voice but she is a mediocre actress, so doesn't have the different inflections and good timing that you need to sound sufficiently interesting in voiceover work.

The review will be interesting. Will they slink back?

The review will be interesting. Will they slink back?

Without a doubt.

I actually think H will want to return but if M refuses , it will be difficult because of Archie .

She's not unsavvy at all, how on Earth did she think she was just going to walk into a Clooney or Brangelina or Oprah style life?

This bit I don't find surprising at all to be honest. Since the engagement and wedding (and possibly a bit before, too) she has had the mass adulation and positive attention that, so far as we know, she can only have related to being an entertainment megastar. If you look at the thousands and thousands who turned up to cheer their carriage parade in Windsor after the wedding, the people who lined their walkabout routes 4-5 people deep, all around the world, the people in the Royal Albert Hall who gave her and Harry a lengthy standing ovation when they walked in for the concert - It would take quite extraordinary detachment and perspective for someone (who, after all, wanted to be a star) to realise that the adulation she was receiving wasn't because she was a star in and of herself, but because she was now Royal, and that comes with (really quite ridiculous) adulation for many of its members. I can completely understand how she might have thought that this was confirmation that she was a Clooney or Oprah equivalent, and then plan on that basis. How could she have known that she might lose a bit of her lustre when out of the fold? And, to be fair, we don't yet know that she has.

I don't think they will come back. It would be too embarrassing for them, wouldn't it? They'll tough it out somehow. Then again, there isn't much on the horizon for them although things might pick up later this year. Is their brand damaged though? I would say so but maybe not in the US.

It just all seems so empty and desperate and not genuine. M did that visit to the women's centre in Vancouver. They've delivered some food in LA, the Saving the Children video and Skype'd or Zoom'd some people, not much else. I'm presuming as they've not been photographed delivering food since that it was one-off over a couple of days. None of these charity things they do seem to come from the heart and always seem to have an ulterior motive - to shine a light on them, to keep them newsworthy and convince people they care. The things they do are never long-lasting. I think M has always worked like this though - she did the odd charity thing to get noticed and get into those circles. Anyone that truly has a passion does this for years on end, don't they? Everything I do I question their motives.

Everything "they" do - not "I" do, haha!

I dont know if private schools are a 'thing' in the states (maybe someone can enlighten me?)

Yes, the private education sector's huge, not least because a lot of public schools are deeply average ("public" in the US meaning what it says)

Many tend to be church-based, but that's not altogether surprising in a nation wih much higher church attendance than ours

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8339749/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-reflective-second-wedding-anniversary.html

well, they've had an 'epic' year.

"The friend explained that the couple wanted to spend the day 'mostly offline' with their son Archie and simply 'enjoying each other"

And yes, it is indeed Omid Scobie again...

What changed? The awful racism directed at her, her shit of a family (dad’s side) and the difficulty of trying to not say or react to all of the crap.

Their mistake? Interacting with the media. Should have stayed quiet as things could have been dealt with privately. I also don’t know why they issued a statement saying hey wouldn’t have anything to do with the daily mail etc. Surely it would have been better to have just ignored them.

I get the impression they’ve been reactive to everything following the crap she has received.

I don’t think she has manipulated anything, but made they have made decisions based on how they’ve been treated here.

The DM article says they removed themselves from a 'toxic situation'. Things are getting twisted. They didn't really remove themselves. They wanted to stay in the RF doing some duties, didn't they? But the Queen said no, forcing their hand so they left. It wasn't so toxic then that they couldn't bear staying under any circumstances. They wanted the best of both worlds and flounced when they were told 'no'. They had no plan B and of course the backlash about how they handled exiting wasn't great (i.e. we'll do collaborations with the Queen (cringe), we're protected international people, H is sixth in line to the throne dontcha know, we're still royal, no one has a monopoly on the word 'royal' etc) with coronavirus the icing on the cake.

I don’t think she has manipulated anything, but made they have made decisions based on how they’ve been treated here.

Or how they perceive they have been treated. I’m not sure they have been treated any worse than many other people in the public eye. They just seem to have very thin skin to criticism.

with coronavirus the icing on the cake

Now there's an image I won't be able to get out of my head now. Thanks, Lizzie

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I think they'll be trampled by the big stars of LA, when the post Covid scramble back to the top begins. They're already tiny fish in a big pond, with no real talent. However deserving H and M think they are, I think that after all that's happening in the world, fools will be suffered even less by the public.

I don't know how long H can last out there, I really don't think he wanted to go LA at all, it's going to be so tricky regarding Archie if he does want to come home.

I wonder if MM misses her old life in Toronto where she was just famous enough to feel important but still enjoyed peace and privacy. All she had to worry about about each month was covering her own rent and living expenses. Her apartment looked beautiful from some photos someone posted in a pervious thread. She could come home each day, enjoy a glass of wine, play with her dogs and work on the Tig.

Now she's clearly bitten off more than she can chew and there's no going back. She and Archie will need security for the rest of their lives. It's hard to pity them but imagine thinking about the future knowing you have to drum up astronomical sums every year just reach a baseline level of safety that ordinary people enjoy for free. That's not even including additional debt from Frogmore, legal doom from Sunday Times and half-assed attempts at charity in between trying to keep a hundred balls in the air.

The thing about the book is that it will change absolutely nothing. People who already dislike them will simply marvel at the self-indulgent tripe being brought out in the midst of a global pandemic. People who love them will enjoy the book but they were supporters anyway. The Mail's lawyers will rake through every word looking for loopholes for the court case so there's a massive legal risk (maybe why they're pretending they had nothing to do with it now). Unless they drop a few massive bombshells the book is not going to "convert" anyone who dislikes them into liking them.

Found it was odd that they didn't post anything about their wedding anniversary? Fair enough that their instagram account is gone but how do they plan to reach world domination without even a social media presence? You can easily change usernames on Instagram so they could have renamed SussexRoyal to something else and kept the followers. With their status they could simply pick up the phone and someone at Facebook will personally sort it out for them. They can have a new verified account for Archewell within minutes. The fact that there still isn't one seems quite odd and foreboding.

I think the RF only the Sussex royal IG page. There was an article earlier in the year saying that H&M wanted all their followers ported over to Gregor new account because they were an 'exceptional case'. Apparently IG refused

*own the Sussex page

*their new account

Sorry, stupid phone

Yes, they would have been far better off riding out the storm and staying in the UK instead of flouncing off like that, there have been some ridiculous, almost libellous articles in the US about them, the April fool blind for a start, I know the UK press isn't perfect by any stretch but I very much doubt something so absurd like that would have got to print. As regards their anniversary, it's very strange that there has been radio silence from both sides of the atlantic.