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Harry and Meghan News ( Finding Freedom!)

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callmeadoctor · 19/05/2020 17:42

twitter.com/i/web/status/1261788333577056257 This is so funny if anybody fancies a giggle, royals eye rolling!!!

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TangibleTuTu · 26/05/2020 20:56

The stuff that is written in that Tatler article is so ridiculous. I really can't belivee any of it except the part about Catherine and William's house Anmer Hall being decorated in much more comfortable style than a classic aristos house. Instead of threadbare carpets and ancient sofas, I would imagine a more Ralph Lauren does the English Country Home look that is so much more livable.

Winterlife · 26/05/2020 21:03

No chance of avoiding them in LA unless you're isolating yourself in your palatial bubble.

The homeless don't usually make it to Beverly Hills.

@Sittingontheveranda, Colin Campbell's book on Diana was panned, but in hindsight, a lot of what she wrote about Diana (and Charles) was spot on.

alliwantisagoodnightssleep · 26/05/2020 21:06

I still fundamentally believe that Captain Tom should be given all Harry’s honorary military roles. Captain Tom at least represents them with respect and dignity both two attributes that Harry has been sadly lacking over the last number of years.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/05/2020 21:15

It's not clear (unless I missed it) who is picking up all Harry's military stuff for starters

Wasn't it said that the various position would be left vacant for a while?

WinnieTheW0rm · 26/05/2020 21:15

Harry 's military roles are paused.

There was some suggestion of giving the Marines to the Princess Royal, but I don't think there will be any redistribution until after the review (due one year, but I bet timings will slip because of COVID)

TangibleTuTu · 26/05/2020 21:17

I don't think we should be too hard on Harry when it comes to the military. He did serve in the armed forces which can't be taken away from him. He also set up the Invictus Games after being inspired by a US version. He may have made some missteps since his marriage but it would be unreasonable to suddenly bin all his previous work and efforts. It's very easy from our keyboards to be scathing when he has definitely achieved concrete objectives. He could have avoided military service altogether. He was obviously devastated when he realised he would lose his military titles and no longer be able to support the armed forces in the same way. He may have been naive in that regard.

TangibleTuTu · 26/05/2020 21:20

"Financial freedom was a big part of them wanting to leave"
www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a32669280/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-family-financial-freedom-quote/

TimeLady · 26/05/2020 21:26

Tatler article here

www.tatler.com/article/the-duchess-of-cambridge-is-the-julyaugust-cover

ButteryPuffin · 26/05/2020 21:39

Ok, I've looked at the bridesmaids and tights thing, courtesy of this entry on the helpful blog linked to earlier:
whatkateskidswore.com/2018/05/george-charlotte-just-like-what-uncle-harry-aunt-meghan-wore/

So, no tights. Now, if you'd asked me before, I would have said 'can't see it as a big thing' -
I did say earlier I hadn't noticed them or the lack of them on the day. And it's not a big thing. But I would now agree with some of the comments on that blog post that the outfits look a bit casual without them. It's also jarring because they've got closed toe shoes on. If they were in sandals.. maybe not so much. Granted I wore skirts, no tights and shoes, but that was as a late 80s teenager who thought I knew everything. I was not dressed formally at the time, either...

The other small thing that grated on me was the line reporting:
The girls’ shoes are by Aquazzura, made in white leather and monogrammed with the wedding date and each of the girls’ initials on the sole of the shoe. Meghan gifted the shoes to each bridesmaid as a keepsake of the special day.

It all sounds very lovely and has personal touches. But then you think
A) what else was she going to do with six pairs of once-worn bridesmaids' shoes?.(one of the blog comments says as much)
B) surely there's no question of making bridesmaids, or their parents, pay for anything at a royal wedding? I know it's more standard that bridesmaids fund their own outfits in the US. But really, surely the bride buying and giving them the shoes to keep was absolutely to be expected?

Winterlife · 26/05/2020 21:45

surely the bride buying and giving them the shoes to keep was absolutely to be expected

Did you mean Charles buying the shoes? Wink

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 26/05/2020 21:54

Meghan gifted the shoes to each bridesmaid as a keepsake of the special day.

Are we to infer from this that the bridesmaids for all the other royal weddings had to give their shoes back?

TheCraicDealer · 26/05/2020 22:07

I remember watching the wedding and thinking how hot and sweaty their wee feet just be, sliding around in brand new shoes and probably rubbing [shudder] it would have looked a lot nicer with socks or tights, MM normally has a great eye but not on that occasion.

Inspiralcarpetry · 26/05/2020 22:41

Interesting. I hadn't picked up on the bridesmaids wearing new leather shoes without socks or tights. Like others said, anyone would get horrible blisters. As a mum of said bridesmaid, I would insist on tights or socks, even though I'd respect the rest of the outfit.
I'd also be worried about my little child accidentally showing knickers without tights on, especially if image was important and they were likely to be photographed...
I'm beginning to wonder if that might have caused some kind of bridezilla fall out between M and Kate?

Viviennemary · 26/05/2020 22:55

Oh wow Meghan gifted the shoes. Instead of what. Selling them on eBay. Since the taxpayer probably paid for them anyway. Her generosity knows no bounds.Hmm

highmarkingsnowbile · 26/05/2020 23:07

When did the verb 'to give' or 'to present' become extinct. You give someone a gift.

Oh, yes, Meghan the Magnanimous. Said no one ever.

FannyCann · 26/05/2020 23:09

This from the Tatler. I wouldn't expect William to be a very forgiving sort either, even to his brother.

"‘William is absolutely incandescent about Megxit,’ a courtier confides. ‘Every time the Sussexes issue a statement, it hits everyone like a fresh bombshell. The Cambridges are left reeling like everyone else. Everyone is terribly worried about how this is affecting the Queen.’"

Oldbutstillgotit · 26/05/2020 23:23

Blind Gossip alert

ButteryPuffin · 26/05/2020 23:43

Oh boy. Another corker. But who are the couple?

BrieAndChilli · 26/05/2020 23:54

I thinks she’s completely Fucked this up.
If she had approached the royal family and said she really wanted to do some acting and made an arrangement she would have had every producer and director in the world competing to work with her. But because they have stripped and pouted and shown thier true colours I think people will be very wary of working with her. She hasn’t shown enough talent to be able to command the fees and diva demands that she no doubt will.
I can’t see her spending months doing 2 daily stage shows on broadway!!

ButteryPuffin · 27/05/2020 00:04

And the Queen had offered them the chance not to take titles and for Meghan to continue her acting career. They turned it down.

DateLoaf · 27/05/2020 00:06

Thanks for the links to the NYmag and Tatler articles, both really interesting.

It’s wierd for people to carp that Kate isn’t knowable enough or capricious enough or is never papped lunching with her pals or whatever. What choice does she have but to work hard and stay out of trouble? She has to be Queen one day. I don’t remember Diana as someone who was always popularly loved or admired at all, I think that view of her has been solidified after she died, which is understandable after a tragedy but also shouldn’t be used a yardstick to measure Kate against.

DateLoaf · 27/05/2020 00:07

(By ‘people‘ I mean, journalists) Grin

DateLoaf · 27/05/2020 00:21

I can totally understand W&K feeling let down. Of course they want to have some time with their very young kids too and extra work for them will change their kids’ childhoods and their own experience of being parents.

It’s not like vacant senior royal ‘jobs’ can be filled by advertising for new applicants like in any other job.. It’s another reason at family relationships level why it’s very sad that H&M have left. They will all have fully known what leaving would mean for each other.

Also HMQ ( now 94) will go on in role as long as she lives and is not incapacitated, so Charles (72 later this year) can be like a deputy Queen in her lifetime, but then he may not have much or any time left before he wants to retire and pass the crown over to Wills. Charles can’t then be much of a deputy to his son if he’s already retired.

So H&M leaving gives W&K little respite now AND no respite in future.. possibly until George and siblings are able to take on duties- which is more than 20 years into the future. That’s a hell of a burden when you think about it. I also absolutely understand why they had three kids now.

Either that or Euge and Bea become more visible seniors in future but then their father’s indefensible position makes that impossible. Camilla can’t do too much if Charles isn’t going to be King for long if at all, so maybe Sophie’s profile could be built up. But it does all seem to keep coming back to W&K.

myrtleWilson · 27/05/2020 00:24

Elton and David for the Talented Couple in the BG?

ButteryPuffin · 27/05/2020 00:40

Ah yes myrtle. That's probably it.

Dateloaf gosh yes. What a future. And meanwhile the Sussexes drain off huge amounts of Charles's funds to enjoy themselves in LA.