Harry and Meghan News ( Finding Freedom!)

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twitter.com/i/web/status/1261788333577056257 This is so funny if anybody fancies a giggle, royals eye rolling!!!

I can't believe M smacked Charlotte. Not her style at all. Charlotte would not have been alone at the time, the nanny would have been there, if not Kate. If C had been playing up the nanny would have handled it. TBH, I can't imagine M snapping either. She wouldn't have let her image of being lovely and sweet and even-tempered and kind crack before she had that ring on her finger. She's crafted this image of herself and I don't think is particularly direct - at least with 'equals'; look how she buggered off to Canada and let H deal with the fall-out with his family. She's usually removed from the trouble - she ghosts people etc, she's not direct.

I can believe her snapping at staff is more likely though, which she is reported to have done. I think it more likely, but again who knows, that if her orders weren't carried out to the letter she'd have words - but that is only to people she would perhaps perceive as being in her employ, no way would she do it to people needed to get ahead.

I’m not afraid to say I’ve reported @nuttymomma’s posts. Even if true, repeating such a bald and baseless allegation on a public forum is not on.

Yes, I wish people wouldn't come out with such rubbish.

I think there was definitely a row at the dress fitting and Meghan was rude to one of Kate's staff. Apparently Meghan was rude to staff and the Queen had to tell her off.

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If looks could kill...

I’m a big critic of both H&M but I just cannot believe the . . . story, no way did that happen

I don't think anyone can state, with certainty, what did or did not happen, other than the parties who were present at the time.

I can't believe M (rest of sentence redacted). Not her style at all. . . TBH, I can't imagine M snapping either. She wouldn't have let her image of being lovely and sweet and even-tempered and kind crack before she had that ring on her finger. . . she's not direct.

You don't know her style, unless you know her personally.

As I've posted previously, I know someone who worked on Suits. That person was very positive in comments about everyone but MM. Didn't say anything overtly negative, just hinted around the edges, but there was zero positive, either. That person is very "politically correct", although I'm certain at some point, I'll get their true feelings.

I also know someone who worked with her on the Reitmans ads in Toronto. He's an award winner who's done a significant amount of work in both Canada and the US. He did say negative things about her, including that she is the meanest person he's ever met.

I can't say anything about MM's character or temperament, but I would not put anything past anyone, and particularly not a bride in the midst of her wedding preparations (not suggesting she was a bridezilla, just that it is a possibility).

I don’t think that anyone can state with certainty what did or did not happen, other than the parties who were present at the time

We all speculate on here about H&M but to speculate as to whether she hit a 2 year old child is disgusting and is not something that should be speculated on, to even suggest it without proof is abhorrent.

Winterlife - I've no idea what she was like before she met H and got into the RF. I don't recall anything since she's been connected to the RF that proves she's nasty in anyway - I think she's probably been on her best behaviour and cultivated an image of being nice and sweet, particularly in the early days.

So since being in the RF I would say, yes, that's her 'style' - or at least what she wants us all to believe. I'm not saying it's the true her. Like all people there's many sides to her. I'm no fan of hers. Do I think she has shown her true personality, whatever that is, no, I don't - but her 'style' as I mentioned has been to make us all think she's sweet and lovely so to have smacked a child wouldn't have been her 'style', as I said - it would have gone against the grain of what she's tried to portray (to the public and H's family). In fact, anyone smacking a small child in those circumstances would be considered very nasty, or even slightly deranged I would say, so I can't imagine anyone doing it, let alone M who had a carefully cultivated image to protect, and she wouldn't have wanted H to have looked at her in a different light, especially before she had the ring on her finger, and she was also dealing with the bizarre situation with her dad around that time so I can imagine she wouldn't have wanted to raise any more red flags like smacking a child. Apart from anything else, C was 2 and wouldn't have been left alone with M - she'd have had her mother or a nanny there so there's no way M would have been able to smack her.

So, yes, I would say smacking a small child is not M's style (is it anyone's?). Seriously, you wouldn't put it past her? I think it a load of bollocks. It's so far fetched.

I find her a false person so I'm not surprised when you say you've heard not so nice things. Whether they're true or not I couldn't say for sure. We've heard not so nice things since she's been in the RF but no one knows for sure if they're true or not. They've ranged from the possible - speaking badly to staff - to the downright unbelievable - smacking Charlotte and some other rumour about her saying something directly rude to the queen. I'm not denying that I thought both H&M were disrespectful to the queen during Megxit but do I think M would have said something rude directly to a 93 year old woman who is the queen? No. I don't think she'd have had the chance. Plus, I would say that isn't her style either. Most of what we hear is rumour. Her 'style' that she cultivated is of someone nice - so, no, she wouldn't have smacked Charlotte, even if she was so inclined, or been rude to the queen's face as it wouldn't have been in keeping with the person she was trying to portray.

I honestly cannot imagine that MM smacked Charlotte. There does seem to have been some kind of disagreement as it's been so widely reported but I wonder if it's a case of Chinese whispers where what actually happened got exaggerated.

I can imagine a scenario of C playing up perhaps when being measured for her dress or whatever and M wanting her to behave saying something sarky like 'ooh, she's a bit of a handful' and doing an eyeroll and then K being pissed off. Who knows. Bit of a storm in a teacup even if that happened. Smacking C though is just so unbelievable - it would have marked M out as being nuts apart from the aspect of her not having access to do it as C would have had someone looking after her. She was 2 - her nanny would have been very close at hand.

You don’t know if it’s true or not, though. You can’t. I don’t believe it, but I don’t disbelieve it either.

No one knows for sure, true, but using the logic I've listed above it's pretty unbelievable. It's too far fetched - really. It completely goes against the grain of what she was trying to portray plus it's unlikely she'd have had the opportunity. Plus even if she was that way inclined she wouldn't have wanted the scales falling from H's eyes before the wedding so would have had an incentive to keep herself in check. Some things can be discounted, I think.

The person you know saying she was the 'meanest' person he's ever met. Really? Didn't he say why? Maybe she's rude or a diva but the 'meanest person he's ever met' without saying why is such a sweeping statement.

There's plenty I don't like about her. I think she's a phoney, manipulative and conniving (largely based on her actions). Do I think she's particularly nasty, no. Do I think she's capable of being a diva and unpleasant, yes. Do I think she's the 'meanest' person in the world, as in routinely kicking puppies and smacking small children, no. Do I think she had her moments when working with the person you know, more than likely. There's enough wrong about her without sensationalising stuff and making out smacking a child is believable. It really isn't.

It’s irrelevant winterlife if you believe it or not, the fact remains it should not be speculated on the the first place, honestly, I enjoy all the politics and robust discussions on Megzit but saying Meghan slapped Charlotte is the lowest of the low, something like that should have no place on this thread.

@lizzie1970a, the person did tell me why, but it’s not my tale to tell.

Not sure about the smacking but I do believe the public and private personas are very different. Her public persona alone is so fake and wide ranging. She is sometimes a shy giggling ingenue, sometimes a confident empowered feminist. She adores and is grateful to her father and also cuts him off for being toxic and messy. The royals were the family she never had, then they were cold and stifling. She can't keep her own stories straight. I believe there was some unpleasantness involving Charlotte.

I agree, I think she is a very contradictory person.

The latest US tabloid headlines

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8349283/Have-Harry-Meghan-cost-44million.html

I don’t know how these figures have been arrived at or the actual likely cost of the services provided but this says it is an underestimate.

...and the associated 'story'

Interesting parallels here with the Clooneys.

I don’t buy that she forgot to wear her rings on that day. I do think it was to add more drama to the flounce.
With regards to the situation with Princess Charlotte, I don’t know what to think. Meghan has a very fake public persona and may have lost her rag. The nanny or Kate being nearby couldn’t necessarily have intervened if she just lashed out. Meghan may have been nearer her. But I do agree it would be a very strange thing to do and not in Meghan’s best interest. It could only have happened if she has that sort of aggression in her and all the stress around the wedding made her break her façade. It seems very unlikely to me but it is possible. She does seem to have a volatile side.
With regards to spanking, some people do still think there is nothing wrong with it, we don’t know what Meghan’s thoughts on this are. It could be a normal way for disciplining a child to her, and she could have misjudged what the reaction would be.

They need to do a wife swap. Solve all the problems and Amal would definitely be a trophy wife.

I thought the US didn’t have tabloids ? They seem to be worse than British ones . And there’s no way helicopters would be allowed to fly over Frogmore.

You know, I know a shed load of people in the royal family and celebs and all, and they say on very good authority that William sacrifices kittens. I mean, I wouldn't put it past him, so it is probably true. I'm sure I can dig out a random shot of him looking grumpy as evidence. So yeah, the lovely Wills is deffo a kitten killer. Bastard.

I'm with you Winter. None of us knows what is true, everything people say here is most likely to be speculation.

FWIW, it was commonplace to smack children when I was growing up. Thankfully that's changed, at least in the UK. The same doesn't apply everywhere.