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Harry and Meghan News ( Finding Freedom!)

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callmeadoctor · 19/05/2020 17:42

twitter.com/i/web/status/1261788333577056257 This is so funny if anybody fancies a giggle, royals eye rolling!!!

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Binglebong · 22/05/2020 19:45

Found the article :
In 2005, Elizabeth II changed the order of precedence for private occasions, putting Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, fourth in the order of precedence, after herself, Anne, Princess Royal, and Princess Alexandra, contrary to the usual position of the heir's consort. Charles's first wife, Diana, Princess of Wales, had ranked above the Princess Royal and Princess Alexandra.[3] The Duchess of Cornwall continues to rank second in the order of precedence at official occasions, such as state dinners.
Princesses of the Blood Royal, such as Princess Beatrice of York and Princess Eugenie, rank above Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, when the latter are not accompanied by their husbands. When the Duchess of Cambridge or Duchess of Sussex are joined by their husbands, the roles are reversed with the duchesses outranking the princesses

Why is princess Alexandra so high? She's 53rd in line (I googled!) So E and B are earlier in succession. So shouldnt they be before her? I can understand non bloods being later as they can't inherit (although must be a pain to keep track) but Alexandra makes no sense.

NewNNsoShootMe · 22/05/2020 19:55

And a far sight cleverer than HaM. This is how it works when you listen to your PR and coaching instead of assuming you know better than they do when you're the one who's hired them for the job. Harry was similarly cleverly managed, then he met Sparkle and morphed into Kevin the Teenager.

But what if the problem is actually with the PR people?

In the UK, any PR firm worth their salt (or not) will understand that representing H&M and actively going against the monarchy is ultimately professional suicide.

In the USA, PR is mainly based on the celebrity stock market. H&M only really have H being 6th in line to the British throne as his calling card. Meghan, at least right now, can only hang onto his coat tails until she establishes herself as a heavyweight player in Hollywood which seems unlikely.

Therefore, any canny PR firm will have assessed H&M’s position and realised that the best profit they can achieve is to offer a sympathetic ear and fan the flames of indignation H&M have if they continue to use their services.

Bottom line: the Crown always wins.

SunbathingDragon · 22/05/2020 20:20

Why is princess Alexandra so high? She's 53rd in line (I googled!) So E and B are earlier in succession. So shouldnt they be before her? I can understand non bloods being later as they can't inherit (although must be a pain to keep track) but Alexandra makes no sense.

I believe it is due to her age so seniority in that sense and also the fact she still does do a huge amount of work. I’m sure that when she was still alive that Princess Margaret also refused to accept someone marrying into the family and being ahead of her.

NewNNsoShootMe · 22/05/2020 20:31

Also the problem is that Meghan has always chased global fame and fortune long before she met Harry.

When she eventually got it through marrying into the British Royal Family, the reality was absolutely awful but at the same time she is now addicted to the attention and doesn’t want it to end.

Her fatal flaw is needing attention but only on her terms. Dream on!

NewNNsoShootMe · 22/05/2020 20:43

TL:DR:
Be careful what you wish for. It might just come true

Viviennemary · 22/05/2020 21:01

She would have been better marrying celeb type like George Clooney. But I don't suppose there's enough to go round all the wannabees.

NewNNsoShootMe · 22/05/2020 21:13

She would have been better marrying celeb type like George Clooney. But I don't suppose there's enough to go round all the wannabees.

A list celebs would have kept the likes of Meghan at a wide berth.

ButteryPuffin · 22/05/2020 21:13

Ooh Vivienne I think she'd have liked being George's wife for when he makes his move into politics and she could become a humanitarian political wife and draw on that base of support. Bad luck George went for Amal the actual human rights lawyer, first, eh?

Oldbutstillgotit · 22/05/2020 21:17

@ SunbathingDragon I think it is to do with “ blood “. Princess Alexander is the daughter of King George V1’s brother therefore the blood link to HM is closer than , say , to Kate. I think.

Jillyhilly · 22/05/2020 21:18

Lady Colin Campbell on Diana, Meghan and narcissists. I find her really interesting and sort of hilarious, and she’s incredibly sweet with her dog (and the interviewer who I think is one of her adopted sons.

7Worfs · 22/05/2020 21:18

I would think LA is full of very attractive Z-listers on the lookout for eligible A-listers. It just doesn't work that way though.

ARoseInHarlem · 22/05/2020 21:29

Good grief, I really don’t see the blocking thing happening in that video Confused. It looked to me like she was looking at H for what to do/where to go after they’d done the meet ‘n’ greet, didn’t know what to do with herself, just started walking when it was time to go. It is a bit odd to make way for your brother in law, someone you talk to as an equal in private. You have to really be aware of protocol to do something that unnatural. I bet behind the scenes W says “it’s fine don’t worry”, and MM took that at face value, not realising that he meant the exact opposite (as is the British way).

The ring less hands on a visit she didn’t think she was going to be photographed at, again I’m inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt and say there was no messaging. Rather more irritating that the apparent love of her life bought her that hefty ring, she had it changed to her liking (sooooo tacky, especially as it was changed from a clunky old-fashioned band to a skinny made-fashionable-by-the-likes-of-Kim-Kardashian floating band), then doesn’t bloody wear it all the time.

NewNNsoShootMe · 22/05/2020 21:43

I suppose what it basically boils down to is do they truly love each other or not

MissEliza · 22/05/2020 21:56

I think it's a bit odd not to wear at least your wedding band. I don't see any reason not to wear it unless you're worried about losing it or damaging it, which was clearly not the case on that occasion.

iVampire · 22/05/2020 22:04

Alexandra makes no sense

It’s because she is first cousin to the Queen, so although far from the succession which goes down the kind of monarchical offspring, she is at the same family level as HMQ, bring a grandchild of King George.

Her brothers feature/d just as highly on the make precedence list

Oldbutstillgotit · 22/05/2020 22:06

@ iVampire thank you - you explained it much better then me ( I have had a LOT of wine)

StartupRepair · 22/05/2020 22:46

I think the Queen holds her royal cousins - Kent's and Gloucesters - in very high esteem as they were all impacted by the abdication and WW2.

nuttymomma · 22/05/2020 22:58

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TimeLady · 22/05/2020 23:11

She forgot to put her wedding band on? I'm not buying that.

Interesting, nuttymomma.....

Teddy1970 · 22/05/2020 23:31

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hoteltango · 22/05/2020 23:36

I’m part way through Lady Colin Campbell’s book “The Real Diana”, and have just reached this bit:

She didn’t want to read any of the biographies and books on the constitution and other heavy-duty stuff she had to learn if she was going to do her job well. … She thought she could coast through on the sweetness of her demeanour. Which, of course, is precisely what she did.

Diana was only 19 years old, but she’d been around royalty most of her life so would have had a good idea how it all worked. Meghan didn’t have that experience, but would know how to read a script and follow directions.

I don’t think either of them really had much excuse for not getting to grips with what life as a royal bride was going to be like. They both seem to have thought that who they were was more important than what they were.

StartupRepair · 22/05/2020 23:36

Was the rumour about making Kate cry at the dress fitting included in the court case or not?

nuttymomma · 22/05/2020 23:38

I have met (through my DF) the Obamas, the Trumps, the Trudeaus, the Blairs, Oprah, Elton John, Queen Bey, HMTQ, PC, and lots more.

Most of DFs work is with their staff as opposed to these celebrities.

We do hear a LOT of gossip though. I cannot say if any of it is true but these people would know more than others wouldn't they?

The MM hitting Charlotte rumour has been said by a few royal staff.

BTW Princess Anne is really awesome. Hard working, down to earth, says it like it is, very family orientated. Zara is great too. We see them a lot at horse events.

highmarkingsnowbile · 22/05/2020 23:43

Catherine had just given birth to Lewis about 3 weeks before the wedding. I'd have cried just thinking about having to sit through that interminable farce of a wedding service on those uncomfortable pews if I'd been her.

Meghan didn’t have that experience, but would know how to read a script and follow directions.

I don’t think either of them really had much excuse for not getting to grips with what life as a royal bride was going to be like.

Meghan was nearly twice the age of Diana when the latter took up with Charles. Diana hadn't had so much as a boyfriend. Meghan had been married at least once before, lived on her own, had a well, a sort of career, etc. She had miles more confidence than Diana. There's little comparison there. I mean, at least with Diana, well, she had been born a lady, the daughter of an earl from a very old family, not some cable tv actress who already had a reputation for burning bridges and throwing her weight around.

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 22/05/2020 23:46

I’m a big critic of both H&M but I just cannot believe the smacking story, no way did that happen, if it had, William and Kate would have put her in the tower! and I’m sure Harry would not have tolerated Meghan doing that at all, worst case scenario is Meghan raised her voice and it’s become an exaggerated story along the way, and not a nice story, I’m no Meghan fan at all (see my previous scathing posts) but saying she smacks 2 year old little girls without any proof is beyond the pale.