Meghan and Harry Debacle part 2

[RosesandIris]

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Has anyone seen that Lady Colin Campbell has written a book on Harry and Meghan using insider information. Apparently she’s has members of the Markle family to stay. She’s brave!

@CathyorClaire

Its said the 18k will include a market rent on the place (payable to whom?) And the excess will be used to pay back the refurbishments. But they dont say the division of the 18 thousand so for all we know the refurbishments could be being paid back at a tenner a month.

I'm waiting for MM to sue the (non-existent) US tabloids for printing negative stories about her, thereby causing her distress.

Letting one of the York girls live at Frogmore in exchange for some proper Royal role might suit Charles very well if he's the one paying the £18 K pm. I get the impression that the girls (and their mother) are trying very hard to improve the York image atm.

WaK are going to require some younger support going forward, with Charles, Camilla and Anne now in their 70s and the DoY in disgrace.

I doubt very much either of the York girls
want to be working Royals though.

Having thought more about this - I'm fairly certain the H&M could have managed to get exactly what they wanted.

If M was offered the chance to carry on with acting - but receive no title - then she could have reverted to this.

Give up the Sussex title, but Harry remain a working royal.

He would continue to receive the sovereign grant, but she wouldn't.

Plan to have a base in the Uk and in LA. Given the Commonwealth role (which H could keep), LA would be an ideal place to do short tours of the Caribbean, Canada and the USA.

They could fly back to the UK for a couple of months at a time while Archie is not at school, and he could do royal stuff, including further tours abroad to Africa etc.

She can carry on acting (and isn't silenced like a working royal) while benefiting from Harry's title and position.

W&K didn't do too many royal engagements during the early part of their marriage, so H could conceivably get away with setting up mini tours of the Uk for a week or two while he's here.

I feel like they've missed a major trick here. Their eco warrior status goes up in smoke of course, but it would be the easiest way to keep the funding and status - she's still a Princess after all.

The crowds at the wedding were for a Harry rather than her, given she wasn't that well known (same for Kate).

But their tantrums and desire to have it all may mean they lose everything

Thats assuming M wanted to continue acting though. I don’t think she did.

I'm waiting for MM to sue the (non-existent) US tabloids for printing negative stories about her, thereby causing her distress.

Arf- Time

@RosesandIris true but I guess that goes for whatever job she wants now.

She can't work and be a working royal, so give it up. Harry doesn't have to, and I'm sure he could have made a success of regular commonwealth tours and the odd UK flying visit.

They also lose out, in a totally unforeseen way, in that a life based on residence on both sides of the Atlantic will be totally impossible for quite some time to come (next to no flights, quarantine requirements etc).

Unless/until there is a vaccine, they won't be visiting

You really do have to give it a go. You have to commit. I moved abroad to marry my dh, who is from a different culture, and it was bloody hard. I had to cope with a different language as well. At the time there was no internet or mobile phones so I couldn't call friends or family easily if I was feeling down. Maybe that was a good thing as it arguably forced me to make an effort.
After a decade or so and two dcs, I just had enough. I realised I'd always be the 'foreigner' and my dcs were also seen like that. I honestly don't think that would have been the case with MM. If she's kind of gone along with the traditional way of doing things and got to know the RF, then slowly put her own stamp on things,I think things would have gone well for her here.

Wolfgirrl £18,000 would be under the market rental for a property that size on the Windsor estate. An 8 bedroom house in nearby Ascot is on the rental market for £14,000 pm, and a 12 bedroom in Wokingham for £22,000pm.

I don't know where the excess is going to come from to pay back the refurb cost. They really need to clarify this, as it's a public debt.

If one assumes that this £18k pcm is in addition to a proper amount of rent

And that the figure to be repaid is £2.4 million, and no interest is being charged

Then it will take 133 payments (rounded in their favour) to cover it.

So that’s it done in 2 years and 7 months

But if that’s their total payment, for a 10 bed house, and rents range as HarryDaylight says, then they’re really not repaying anything

It is being described as a 'rental-plus' agreement in which they pay more than what the commercial rate would be, enabling them to pay down those building costs with the excess.When the Sussexes dramatically quit royal duties in January, Palace officials said the couple would repay that taxpayer-funded Sovereign Grant expenditure 'and meet the running costs going forward.'The clear impression was that the Sussexes would make a one-off payment of the wholesum, or arrange some kind of repayment plan, and pay any rent separately.Intriguingly, this is not the case, with the capital costs being recouped via the increased rent.

So the refurbishment costs are being lumped in with the rent. Which is assumingly being paid to what, the Crown Estate? Make of that what you will.

@iVampire it isnt in addition.

So with Harry's personal fortune (I believe 40m) and the fact they're living rent free, would I be mad to assume they could quite comfortable pay it back in one lump if they needed to?

@Mamamia456 I remembered reading this a while back, so looked and there are a number of links

www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/lifestyleroyals/queen-offered-harry-and-meghan-life-without-royal-titles-before-wedding/ar-BBZndh0

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7930957/Meghan-Markle-happy-stop-career-working-member-Firm.html

So they’re paying the typical rent for a gin and jag belt house of that size (no uplift for location).

As they are not working senior Royals they need to pay something within spitting distance of commercial rent. £18k would fo that.

But they are leaving distinct impression that the repayment is also being made, but unless it’s by peanuts a year, I don’t see how

As this involves public funds, and their avowed intent to repay, we need considerably more clarity about both rent (indefinite, reassessed his often?) and repayment (over how long?)

@sunnie1992, I don’t think H&M would have had much support in parts of the Commonwealth, living in L.A.

I think once they moved to the US, they lost all credibility as royals.

The obsfucation of the repayment of their refurb debt is uncannily similar to their Met officer's security bill.

No clarification on either matter. Their conduct is shameless, like a couple of dodgy wheeler deelers.

But who is the money being paid to?

Does anybody know?

Otherwise this entire debate is quite pointless

ARoseInHarlem your post on moving abroad was very interesting and very true I think. It's like the person who leaves work then keeps coming back for a visit, oblivious to the indifference of former colleagues to their new life.

They will be forgotten sooner than they realise, or I suspect want.

ButteryPuffin - An awful lot of spin used, judging by the amount of single quotation marks.

The Sovereign Grant paid for the reburb. It's given by the government (tax payers)

The police protection officers are Met officers and they are granted by the Home Office (tax payers)

The money is going into the sovereign grant pot, as I said two pages back.

Wolfgirrl - I don't know if his money is tied up in investments and trusts funds and he lives off so much a year or whether he inherited a lump sum from Diana and the Queen mother. I would have thought if he did have millions in the bank he would have paid it back in one lump sum.