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The royal family

Meghan and Harry Debacle part 2

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RosesandIris · 10/05/2020 10:23

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Has anyone seen that Lady Colin Campbell has written a book on Harry and Meghan using insider information. Apparently she’s has members of the Markle family to stay. She’s brave!

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RosesandIris · 16/05/2020 22:14

Eugenie comes across as a really genuine, lovely person. The wedding was joyful and moving.

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BalloonSlayer · 16/05/2020 22:14

I just think people are projecting things on to other people with no real justification.

How about this:

Harry and William are close to Beattice and Eugenie. Meghan could have told Eugenie two weeks before about her pregnancy: "I've bought this dess and jacket for your wedding but I feel so bloated I can't do it up, so am
off to London to get a new one fitted so t doesn't look obvious." "Oh don't be daft, just leave it undone!"

Projection, yes, but no.more than the "Eugenie must have been really upset" projection already on this thread.

RosesandIris · 16/05/2020 22:16

Regardless of what Eigenienfelt about it, M was attention seeking as usual. Everything she does is posed, artificial and mannered.

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Justmuddlingalong · 16/05/2020 22:18

Maybe. What with her being on such a tight budget and it was that or bobbly leggings from Asda and an old Ramones t shirt.

MissEliza · 16/05/2020 22:31

@Justmuddlingalong 😂

thenightsky · 16/05/2020 22:41

Justmuddlingalong

Grin
Viviennemary · 16/05/2020 22:49

And let's face it she didn't just buy that coat the day before the wedding. It was all planned to grab attention and get the press talking. I didn't like her much but she seems a really nasty piece of work. IMHO.

StartupRepair · 16/05/2020 22:54

I'm no Meghan fan but I do think they were a bit stuck with the timing. It made sense to announce it as the Australian tour began, so that there was understanding if she needed a break. The wedding was when the whole family was together and the next day they were getting on the plane. It was a bad choice of outfit agreed.

TimeLady · 16/05/2020 23:00

At last! Harry and Meghan are paying us back for Frogmore - but it will take years as they hand over £18,000 a month for rent and first repayments on the £2.4m renovations

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8326801/At-Harry-Meghan-paying-Frogmore.html

TimeLady · 16/05/2020 23:04

A particularly interesting snippet in that DM article

"But while on the royal estate at Frogmore their privacy was totally protected, in California they are being photographed seemingly on a daily basis.

American paparazzi sit high on a hill overlooking their Beverly Hills mansion and have a view inside.

This week, photographs were snatched of Harry, 35, playing with his black labrador. The pictures – which were swiftly published on American and Australian websites – showed the dog paddling in the swimming pool, which suggests a drone was flown over the house.

The picture quality was so good that a purple plastic dog ball launcher could be seen as Harry laughingly threw it high in the air for the dog to chase.

No UK publication would ever print such intrusive images. As one Los Angeles-based photographer says: 'Harry and Meghan were always going to be a prime target – pictures of them make a lot of money. They have become the No1 target.

'It hasn't been too hectic due to the Covid-19 lockdown but with that now lifting it's becoming a free-for-all with helicopters and drones up over their property.

'Harry and Meghan don't have anything like the protection here that they had in the UK. It's a case of out of the frying pan into the fire. Whereas in Britain the Press abides by guidelines, there are no rules in the US. The freedom of the press trumps everything'"

Justmuddlingalong · 16/05/2020 23:06

I'm glad they're paying back what's due, but baffled that they can pay rent on a property they don't live in, but happily mooch numerous rent free properties. My toes curl with embarrassment for the pair of them.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 16/05/2020 23:10

I suppose if one needs a UK base for tax purposes it makes sense to be seen to be paying rent for one. It doesn't mean they are paying from their own resources, because as far as I can see, they don't have any money coming in other than from PC.

I was never that fussed about the Frogmore issue tbh. Given the money spent on their wedding and then to protect them while apparently on permanent holiday, it's a drop in the ocean.

ButteryPuffin · 16/05/2020 23:41

I notice that article referred to it being uncertain whether Harry would pay tax in the US yet. What would get him out of it? Would he have to spend time back in the UK?

Wolfgirrl · 16/05/2020 23:54

Does anybody know to whom exactly they are paying this 18,000? It says that only the excess will be used to pay for renovation etc so I assume the public wont receive the full amount?

Mamamia456 · 16/05/2020 23:58

They didn't announce the pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding. The Queen, Prince Phillip, Charles, Camilla and Eugénie and Jack had already been told before but because they hadn't seen them in the run up to the wedding it was the first time they had seen them to congratulate them.

Winterlife · 17/05/2020 00:26

Congratulations @WindsorBlues What an exciting tIme for you!

@Mamamia456, wouldn’t they have all congratulated them when first told?

As for cute outfits and not wanting to be like Kate, I believe most mothers dress their babies in cute clothes, not thick diapers and a t-shirt when they’re out in public.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 17/05/2020 00:39

They didn't announce the pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding. The Queen, Prince Phillip, Charles, Camilla and Eugénie and Jack had already been told before but because they hadn't seen them in the run up to the wedding it was the first time they had seen them to congratulate them.

This was reported by Harper's Bazaar, quoting "a source". The same article said it was "unclear" whether the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge had been told. So some shade was definitely going on.

And there was no need for the maternity coat except to try and grab a photo on someone else's day. Bad form.

Gingerkittykat · 17/05/2020 02:47

I don't understand why they are expected to pay back the renovations on Frogmore, after all if a landlord updates a property they benefit from it in the long term.

RosesandIris · 17/05/2020 02:49

I suppose because it’s all their taste, and if someone else moves in it will all have to be redone.
The description of the intrusion into their privacy sounds awful. What a life . I wouldn’t want it for a second. They really have sold their souls.

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RosesandIris · 17/05/2020 02:55

There was a programme in Kensington Palace on last night. I dipped into it briefly and was struck by how some of the footage looks like a different lifetime. William, Kate and Harry meeting the Obamas for example, looking happy , engaged and relaxed with one another. Harry isn’t scowling and looks like a different man altogether.

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TimeLady · 17/05/2020 05:11

From today's Sunday Times:

Palace dismisses book giving Harry and Meghan’s account of Megxit

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9ebde86a-976d-11ea-8cd3-563103839a48?shareToken=604cbe5f51750833fff1aab36f2153e3

Slapdasherie · 17/05/2020 06:17

The use of past tense is interesting in that Sunday Times article

“It was a soap opera.”

And the oh so dismissive

“Everyone knows the narrative that is coming”

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/05/2020 06:30

The headline that they’re paying back money is a farce. In the article, it is made clear that they’re living off the duchy of Cornwall. They are therefore still living off the toils of the public in this country in the form of revenue for the duchy. Charles is paying the 18k.

ArriettyJones · 17/05/2020 06:39

The quotes given to that Times journalist are wonderfully sniffy. Real senior place insider condescension. Grin

TimeLady · 17/05/2020 07:05

Harry is in his mid thirties (two months younger than my son), living off income derived from inheritances from his late mother, his late grandmother and a more than generous allowance from his father.

As I understand it, he isn't eligible to work in the US* so how on earth does he plan to support himself, let alone his family, going forward? Live off his wife's earnings? The spouses of those I knew who moved over there for work had to be content with voluntary work.

*Working in the USA
You are only allowed to work in the US if you hold one of the following:

employment-based immigrant visa
temporary employment visa
green card (permanent resident card)
work permit (employment authorisation document)

www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-the-usa#working-in-the-usa

I can't see him qualifying for any of them.

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