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Meghan and Harry Debacle part 2

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RosesandIris · 10/05/2020 10:23

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Has anyone seen that Lady Colin Campbell has written a book on Harry and Meghan using insider information. Apparently she’s has members of the Markle family to stay. She’s brave!

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RosesandIris · 13/05/2020 14:08

Sorry bold fail

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ajandjjmum · 13/05/2020 14:20

This is one of those headlines that do irritate me. I don't admire or respect the way H & M have behaved on many occasions.

But in this case, wouldn't it be quite normal to have a maternity nurse and a night nurse, who would only be required for a relatively short period of time each? By normal, I mean, not for the likes of me, but for people who can afford it. Grin So it's not necessarily the bad thing that it's been painted.

There's plenty of genuine rubbish to dredge through imo.

ARoseInHarlem · 13/05/2020 14:22

If any of the reports that

  • MM wants the book to be released sooner rather than later because she wants misconceptions cleared up
  • or that she contributed more heavily than the paying public think
  • or that the book wouldn’t be released without her approval (it’s Omid Scobie fgs)

are true, then she’s already scored an own goal. Even if the book is filled with “that £50k engagement dress was borrowed”, “you don’t know just how tiny and poky Nottingham Cottage is”, “all I’ve ever wanted is to help people but there are so many rules to comply with I just couldn’t move a finger without permission” - there will be a tight lipped reply to all of that (ie everyone else seems to have managed).

She won’t be able to say anything, about anyone or anything, without criticising the RF in the process, as a whole or individual members. If she doesn’t say a single word about the family or the institution or any individual members, then how can it be a book about freedom? Freedom from what?

At best it’ll be a diatribe about the invasion of privacy by the press. Even that will backfire: I couldn’t even have a swanky baby shower without everyone knowing about it (so you wanted to live that life in secret?), I just wanted to watch my friend play tennis and had people hounding me (every other royal visitor to Wimbledon managed it without clearing out rows of seats around them?), our homes have helicopters circling above them with long lens cameras (every sympathy with this, those shots of TP’s house are horrific and would make anyone feel paranoid - but you can’t fill a whole book with this).

In reality, there is going to be a lot of spin and selective explanations of what went on. Staff who she hired out of the goodness of her heart, but who she painfully had to let go because the RF machine didn’t accept them. I’m a warm American who was so eager to join this family who welcomed me so readily, but in reality I realised they couldn’t be there for me so we decided why bother when we could do so much gooooooood elsewhere. A wedding day (doesn’t every woman dream of becoming a princess, getting married to their prince in a castle blah blah) ruined by press intrusion around her father.

The only way she can come out of this well is if it transpires that she’s been a closet Nelson Mandela all her life and the RF was trying to shut her down so she had to selflessly escape to help other people. What else could justify someone trying out a job and marriage and home for a couple of years before fleeing and leaving a trail of burning embers behind her, and then HAVING to write a book to set the record straight because they’ve been so grossly misunderstood?

RosesandIris · 13/05/2020 14:26

Yes I think the first nanny’s was only meant to be there for an initial period. The second one was sacked.

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RosesandIris · 13/05/2020 14:26

Nanny not nanny’s!

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ajandjjmum · 13/05/2020 14:32

I'm also confused that Meghan wants the book released early to give her side of the story - and yet she's got nothing to do with it??!! Hmm She does stitch herself up.

ARoseInHarlem · 13/05/2020 14:34

And, just saying, there hasn’t been an awful lot of good actually done since she entered the scene. Smart works, the Hub cookbook, Invictus Games, the Africa tour minus that horrific interview. These efforts were worth time and were effective. Banquets and tours are just stuff you have to do; every job has crappy elements, where you have to grit your teeth and get them over with.

Inspirational quotes, zoom interviews, faux sincere speeches to a room full of experts about stuff you don’t actually know anything about - this isn’t doing good. It’s a distraction and insulting to those who do actual work.

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WindsorBlues · 13/05/2020 14:59

our homes have helicopters circling above them with long lens cameras (every sympathy with this, those shots of TP’s house are horrific and would make anyone feel paranoid - but you can’t fill a whole book with this).

It is awful and I couldn't deal with it but it was there choice to pick LA A.K.A paparazzi central, they could have went anywhere else in the whole world, it certainly wouldn't of happened in the UK and a helicopter wouldn't have gotten anywhere near Frogmore.

Biscuit0110 · 13/05/2020 15:20

I thought that Meghan and Harry wanted a private life, and to step out of the limelight or did I imagine that?

MissEliza · 13/05/2020 15:22

@Puzzledandpissedoff that's exactly what my dm said when Will married Kate. She also compared how scruffy H looked at the wedding to how well turned out James Middleton was. H was definitely hungover and looked like he'd had a cold shower to try to reinvigorate him. Meanwhile James worked so hard to deliver the reading, both to improve his public speaking and with the challenges posed by his dyslexia.

Mamamia456 · 13/05/2020 15:52

MissEliza - How could Harry have looked scruffy he was in military uniform?

MissEliza · 13/05/2020 15:59

His hair was a mess and he was clearly hungover.

Justmuddlingalong · 13/05/2020 16:00

His body can look as smart as you like in uniform, but from the neck up he generally looks like he's in need of a good haircut, beard trim and a generous dollup of conditioner.

Mamamia456 · 13/05/2020 16:12

His hair wasn't a mess, I have just looked at the photos and his hair is naturally thick and wavy. If you think he looked hungover because he was pale that's just his natural skin tone. Bloody hell there are some peurile comments on this thread!

ButteryPuffin · 13/05/2020 16:41

He looked fine to me on the wedding day. I remember he had had to ask permission from HM Queen to keep his beard and also wear his uniform. I actually preferred his uniform to the one William wore. What he did look was nervous.

Such a shame thinking back to the wedding day itself, when they made a beautiful couple and looked so happy, to now.

Justmuddlingalong · 13/05/2020 16:56

Yip. He's just about managing to keep a lid on the happiness.

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CafetiereCoffee · 13/05/2020 16:59

Fucking hell, you lot are scraping the barrel now.

miri1985 · 13/05/2020 17:02

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-made-archies-first-birthday-cake-and-his-two-best-friends-were-there/

People magazine have a story with a source saying that the cake for Archie's birthday was strawberries and cream and Archie's two best friends (the dogs) were there. Harry blew up balloons.
"Four days after the birthday festivities, Meghan celebrated her second Mother's Day — this time, joined (at a safe social distance!) by her mom Doria Ragland, who also lives in L.A."

MissEliza · 13/05/2020 17:18

Sorry I don't mean at his own wedding. I meant at William's wedding. By all accounts, he was up to the wee small hours the night before and looked it.

Mamamia456 · 13/05/2020 17:29

MissEliza - That's what I was referring to William's wedding. Looked fine to me. Was it actually reported that he was hungover or is this just your opinion?

DulciUke · 13/05/2020 17:31

I think the pastor is a bit of a metaphor really for Megs joining the RF. He was completely OTT to upper class British sensibilities. Meghan thought he was entirely appropriate. The pattern was set then IMO!

The pastor is the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church in the United States. He was toned down compared to some black American preachers that I've seen. My main problem with him was that he went on too long and was repetitive. Not a Meghan fan or of the wedding (primarily her celebrity guest list with her mother sitting alone), but not going to slam her for having an American style preacher. Upper class sensibilities could maybe stand to get shaken up once in a while. But I'm a Yank so likely biased. I greatly suspect, however, that she chose this pastor because of his title and had never seen him preach. A church version of a celebrity. In that sense, it was perhaps a sign of things to come. She doesn't seem to be much of a churchgoer...

MissEliza · 13/05/2020 17:37

Yes @Mamamia456 it was widely reported at the time.

Mamamia456 · 13/05/2020 17:37

Justmuddlingalong - There are plenty of photos of Harry smiling and looking happy on his wedding day, but you decided to choose one where he's looking serious just to suit your own agenda. How very grown up of you. 🙄

MissEliza · 13/05/2020 17:38

It wouldn't exactly be unusual for siblings to start the wedding celebrations early when they don't have to worry about having a clear head in the morning. I know mine did.