Meghan and Harry Debacle part 2

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Has anyone seen that Lady Colin Campbell has written a book on Harry and Meghan using insider information. Apparently she’s has members of the Markle family to stay. She’s brave!

I know this is a negative about M & H thread but I gave a strong feeling that it's not the press that Meghan had the problem with, it's the family.

I think that after the initial "family she never had" warm welcome, Megan didn't feel she fit in and they maybe even took the piss. The sneering eyerolls at the preacher at the wedding etc - so rude. If they were like that in public with cameras on them, what were they like in private?

I thought the "no one has asked me if I am ok," but was about the family and having a new baby as well.

Harry promised her a large loving extended family and she found a widely scattered, emotionally repressed bunch, with the amazingly loving and supportive BIL and SIL a bit frosty actually, and with a creepy uncle thrown in. As a feminist she must have found the Andrew thing especially hard to cope with. I can imagine Harry saying "Oh it's only Uncle Andy, he's pretty harmless really. Granny won't hear a word against him. Just don't be on your own with him, you'll be fine," and her thinking WHAT!!!!??? And they are all sniggering about my embarrassing Dad and all he did was have a photo taken trying a suit on??

I think "the tabloid press" is a cover, something the family will swallow, a bit like "it's not you it's me," when exiting a relationship, "it's not the family, or the royal life, it's the press," is something the RF will accept as they have all suffered at one time or another.

And they are all sniggering about my embarrassing Dad and all he did was have a photo taken trying a suit on?? Really???

So she doesn't like the in-laws much? Join the club. They're all well-scattered across the country, so unless the odd joint gig came along, she should have plastered on a smile, donned a glamourous outfit, STFU and treated it as a well-paid job. It wasn't that hard.

Truth is she probably has no interests in common with the likes of Kate or Zara, or any of the others, and that's fine - and perfectly normal in families. Accept the difference, limit the contact and make your own group of friends.

According to the DM , M wants the biography published earlier than August as she is fed up with the negative stories about her

How would she know what it will say considering her earlier bleating that she didn’t cooperate with Scobie for the book?

I'm guessing the "friend" and "insider" quoted in the DM is OS trying to bump interest in the book before LCC's alternative version comes out. They will be scrabbling to bring the release date forward.

He may or may not be speaking with MM's agreement, but it sends a confusing message about her involvement in the book and won't help her cause.

Re the actressing bit, is 'Big Suze' from Peep Show not married to a HMQ grandchild?

@ BalloonSlayer from what I have read , P of W in particular absolutely adored Meghan when she arrived and he seemed genuinely happy and proud to walk her down the aisle plus apparently made a wonderful welcoming speech at their wedding . HM too apparently bonded with her over their love of dogs plus took her on visits to show her the ropes .
Maybe M thought that Catherine should do more? Remember that she had young children and only gave birth for a third time just before the wedding .
No one knows what goes on behind closed doors but I got the impression that everyone ( including me) was happy for H.

No she’s married to Prince Michael of Kent’s (HM first cousin) son Freddie Windsor.

BalloonSlayer
I think you’ve made some interesting points. Personally I didn’t see any eye rolls. I wasn’t looking out for any though. However I would feel pretty eye rolly at a woman, who had turned her back on her religion to become Jewish then invited a minister from her former religion to preach at her wedding.

If otoh, it was a colonialist snub, they should have kept their composure. His tone definitely didn’t appeal to me however. Very preachy. That’s an American cultural thing rather than just American African, isn’t it?

The speech itself was pretty beautiful, although I found it hard to feel that way on hearing it, due to the tone of the delivery, which for my ears was patronising. But I think as former colonialists we should be able to listen with fortitude (irony btw)... Here is the speech. www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a20754692/royal-wedding-sermon-michael-curry-full-transcript/

As for the family, I imagine Meghan could have very easily felt that way. The problem is that to a greater extent, she is the common denominator. She expects people to be a certain way with her birth family as well as the family she never had. Then when they are not, she thinks they’re in the wrong. I’ve no doubt they butted heads pretty quickly when she pushed her agenda onto them.

Sophie Winkleman, wife of Lord Freddie Windsor, played Dorothy Gibson, an American actress, in Titanic. Her description of the character in this interview - quite an affectionate description too - is reminiscent of Meghan, at least as far as her public persona goes.

Maybe 'Big Suze' really could be the one to explain Meghan to the Royals!

Oh l think that's nailed it out!

That’s brilliant!!

I reckon she will know by now if there is anything to know. Moving in the circles she does.

I can see that clip doing the rounds on the RF Whatsapp group

Spot on.

‘I know this is a negative about M & H thread’

If really isn’t, most posters wish them well. and were totally welcoming of them in the early days. But it’s not a thread where you have to be utterly positive about everything to do with either/both of them. And it’s OK to point out where things don’t seem to add up

The pandemic had screwed thongs up significantly fig them

But they can continue to do online things for their charities (as Harry did for Invictus on the day the games should have started) and get Frogmore paid off - I do think they should be treating that as a priority debt, and having said publicly they will pay if is fair to expect an update of when it is done

MM had a whole area of Wimbledon cleared because she didn't want to be near the general public, it's actions like that piss people off, it gives us a glimpse into what kind of person she is, she really didn't help herself in endearing herself to the public with her diva behaviour on that day.

Very true, Teddy.

As Maya Angelou once said “When people show you who they are, believe them.”

@ Teddy1970 and yet Catherine managed to sit with the public on the days she wasn’t in the Royal Box !

I think it's absolutely pathetic to have a thread where only positive or only negative comments are allowed. I've never been keen on her from the start. She seemed very fake even at the engagement interview. But Meghan fans welcome as far as I'm concerned.

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Yes very true!

"His tone didn't appeal to me. Very preachy."

Yeah there's a risk of that when you listen to a preacher.

You might want to look at some of the Matt Hancock threads about how objecting to someone's "tone" can come across.

I am not a Meghan fan!

I just think it might be worth pointing out that the Royal Family haven't covered themselves with glory recently, so how come someone who wants out is the bad guy?

Didn't HM have their wedding 'do' at Frogmore House? No-one lives there, it's just used for events.
The Queen is currently at Windsor with PP, I think this is classed as one of their residences?
I'm don't think Charles will give up HighGrove when he becomes King. He will use it like the Queen does Balmoral for weekends/holidays away.

I feel HM have gone from frying pan into fire with the tabloids in America?
British press are nowhere near as bad and I'm sure HM have some protection from them? Can't see them having nothing in the US?