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Harry and Meghan Debacle

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RosesandIris · 03/05/2020 16:07

Following on from Harry and Meghan Biography

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lizzie1970a · 03/05/2020 23:31

If they're not behind the book, why not issue a statement saying that?

Lordfrontpaw · 03/05/2020 23:34

I think they believe they are living in the golden age of Holllywood where the ‘little people’ would rush out to buy a glossy magazine to sigh over what their favourite actors were eating, drinking, wearing and who they are dating.

Nowadays it’s more laughing and pointing at the ever desperate antics/plastic surgery excesses of the Kardasians and their ilk, or failing pop stars/glamour models and there crazy life stories. It can’t be a nice/sane way to make a living - and certainly not ‘out of the limelight’.

ArchePenguin · 03/05/2020 23:41

justmuddlingalong. Brilliant comment GrinGrin

ArchePenguin · 04/05/2020 00:07

I found this in The Hollywood Reporter and thought of you all. It might help cut down the Nightwatch. www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/laser-systems-are-latest-security-hollywood-homeowners-1247528

ButteryPuffin · 04/05/2020 00:13

@Justmuddlingalong I had actually forgotten the 'family she never had' remark till your post! How embarrassing that it's out there given how things have now unfolded. Presumably Harry is massively in denial about his own inability to judge character.

TimeLady · 04/05/2020 06:04

It's surely going to by a syrupy account of their 'vision', isn't it? Setting the scene for the launch of Archewell. I wouldn't pay 50p to read that from the charity shop, esp 368 pages worth.

Anything remotely like a "kiss'n tell" will mean they'll be regarded as suspect by the real makers and shakers in Hollywood.; if they are prepared to diss their own families, why would they be trusted not to spill the beans about new-found 'friends' too?

And they literally can't afford to piss off PC. None of their projects to date seem to involve them earning a living - including this book. I don't understand why they didn't insist on a ghosted autobiography, but then of course, they wouldn't be able to wax lyrical about themselves.

I can't see them buying a $14m mansion right now either; they haven't the funds.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 04/05/2020 07:21

Justmuddlingalong brilliant Grin

BarleylemonPenguin · 04/05/2020 07:22

"Nah.You need substance behind the brand or it will ultimately fail as - let’s face it - you can’t fool
all of the people all of the time. However Trump is the spectacular exception to the rule"

But, aren't there seemingly lots of exceptions to this rule? Gwynneth is surely one (a 250m valuation means nothing. Let's see the hard cash), Kardashians, Kylie Jenner and her 'billion-dollar' company selling, er, lipstick, Kanye and his 'leisure sandals', and countless others such as all the apps/lifestyle websites/charity-foundations, from a multitude of software start-ups in LA and SF, e.g., Serena's husband (can't remember name; did Reddit), etc.?

Now that the lockdown has given us time to think, it looks like the above represent a bubble that has just burst, like tulip fever and the dot.com bubbles. We knew it was coming - now it has, courtesy of covid19. Life is going to be very different (so, hold on to your pants, everyone. It'll be rough for a bit).

Archebaldpenguin · 04/05/2020 07:33

According to the papers, HaM’s book is meant to be an account of one couple’s brave journey against the odds who were unafraid to break tradition.

I think I’m going to puke 🤢

TimeLady · 04/05/2020 07:35

I hope you're right Barley and that that celebrity bubble has burst. I help out in a charity shop and have deduced that most of us have accumulated so much useless 'stuff'. It completely changes your view towards personal possessions, especially when you've just worked your way through several bereavement bags.

I think one of the attractions about being an 'influencer' is that you are given nice things you couldn't afford otherwise to try (and promote) for free - my daughter's friend has kitted her kids out this way from birth!

FannyCann · 04/05/2020 08:10

I certainly won't be reading. I suspect the newspapers will tell me all I need to know (that I couldn't work out for myself). I shall look forward to Craig Brown's book review. And possibly a few rewritten excerpts in Private Eye.

RainbowLily1 · 04/05/2020 08:14

When/if this relationship fails, I wonder if there is any kind of face-saving exercise that means they can ‘consciously uncouple’ without using Archie as a pawn, and making each of their exits seem noble. There aren’t many examples of where this has been done well, or maybe there are but they’re just not newsworthy Confused

LaMarschallin · 04/05/2020 08:38

Fanny

I shall look forward to Craig Brown's book review. And possibly a few rewritten excerpts in Private Eye.

Oh, yes! Absolutely.
And if John Crace could throw in a "digested read", my cup would overflow...

(Actually, just realised that John C. should really throw up a "digested" read. Should imagine FF could easily have that effect though.
And my cup would obviously be an Archewell commemorative mug, depicting the historic occasion of Harry getting his chakras balanced for the first time.)

RosesandIris · 04/05/2020 08:41

I too will rely on serialisation one the papers . No way will I be lining their pockets further. The papers are going to have an absolute field day with this.

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JamieLeeCurtains · 04/05/2020 08:58

Part 1: Finding Freedom

Part 2: The Gilded Cage

Part 3: Breaking Away

Part 4: Being Mrs George Clooney the Second

LaMarschallin · 04/05/2020 09:05

clearedfortakeoff

She lost me the day I read this article where rather than 'shining a light' on the charities she purports to support it was a PR exercise in her brand as a 'humanitarian'.

Oh good grief.
Some of that is so nauseating.
Lion-hearted Meg with her little, freckled face...🤢

If she was a poster here, she'd be the one who comes onto a thread, where other people are being very funny about their fashion disasters, to say "Funnily enough, it looked great on me - made my waist look even smaller and my legs look even longer 🤔. Ah well, we're all different".

(Just read something a bit like that and it made me think of MM's quoted prose)

SliAnCroix · 04/05/2020 09:09

I watched suits before she dated Harry (the first few seasons anyway) and she was OK in that, I didn't think she was a bad actress. The part probably wasn't great. But when you only see an actress play ONE character you don't get a great sense of whether or not they can really act.

SliAnCroix · 04/05/2020 09:09

I don't think I could bear to watch it now!

ToastedHaMSandwich · 04/05/2020 09:12

There are several Finding Freedom workshops advertised on the Internet maybe that’s where the inspiration for the name comes from

SliAnCroix · 04/05/2020 09:23

Yes, inferences of having left an abusive situation are already loaded in to the title ''Finding Freedom''.

Good grief. I hope Harry finds freedom.

MarieG10 · 04/05/2020 09:38

I would respect them if they had slipped off to a new life and lived in obscurity...but it seems they want cake and eat it. This CV situation has really torpedoed their plan and hence why stupid interviews and books now just add to them looking completely self centred and stupid

Goldengroveunleaving · 04/05/2020 10:11

"Finding Freedom ...How to Have Your Cake And Eat It" - the latest Californian self-help book. Grin

Goldengroveunleaving · 04/05/2020 10:22

Or, “Finding Freedom ... How to royally screw your family over - and get them to pay for it.”

Goldengroveunleaving · 04/05/2020 10:23

... along with the UK taxpayer, of course, but perhaps that doesn't translate so well for the purpose.

SunbathingDragon · 04/05/2020 10:31

If they're not behind the book, why not issue a statement saying that?

As we’ve seen, if they aren’t behind something and disagree with it, then they start legal action. As a result it speaks volumes about what they have agreed or worked on and what they haven’t. Hence the fact they will lose the case against Associated Newspapers.

If, in the brutal world of acting, being a Hollywood A lister is what you aspire to (and what Meghan clearly believes she was as she alludes for it in certain comments made) and you are a female, who is closer to 40 than 30, who hasn’t been in anything other than one of the cast in a relatively unknown tv series, it’s safe to say you haven’t made it and you won’t ever make it on your own talents. Unless, of course, you include finding someone desperate for a wife and child, who is able to give you a step up in the celebrity world!