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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 3

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Samcro · 01/03/2020 20:51

new thread hope Dave comes back

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Roussette · 06/03/2020 19:04

Love it!

Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 16:01

Lots of nonsense about H&M as always.

The latest is about Meghan releasing her pictures from yesterday to 'overshadow' Camilla.

First of all SR does not release anything without BP approval. SR communications head, has to report to BP comms head.
The only houses that can release anything without approval are CH and KR. So those pictures would have been pre-approved. I simply do not buy that Camilla is angry at MM for her pictures.

Cerseirys · 07/03/2020 16:21

It's astonishing how far people will reach in their hatred for someone they don't know. Dare I say it but Camilla's or Sophie's engagements rarely make the front pages. That doesn't mean it's right but it isn't Meghan's fault. I'm not sure Camilla would have got that much coverage anyway.

Samcro · 07/03/2020 16:21

Its really a case of making stuff up now isn't it.

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Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 16:44

Exactly, In general, the RR gets a list of all the events coming up in the next week / few weeks. It's up to the media to choose what they want to cover. So in reality, they should be covering Anne and Sophie pretty much every day.

I think Camilla and Sophie have no problem and knew very well that they would have to sort of go to the background as the younger royals come up.

I suspect that H&M know the same for Cambridge children. Infact I think one of the reasons that they pulled out now was that H&M looked around to see who would be the next scapegoat, and realised it's a long way till George grows up enough to get married - quit a long way for them to wait, possibly 20yrs of vitriol (yes probably with ups and downs), but damaging nonetheless. Camilla remained a hated a woman for years.

Bus most immediately, I think they worried about their patronages. If your reputation is bad, sponsors may dry up etc. think of how everyone quickly dropped PA when his scandal came out. I think at some point H&M just thought let's get out of this now. They wanted to be out of the RR because they thought if the story is covered by more than just them, there is a chance that of an objective media bringing their take on the stories.

PC notoriously hates the tabloids, I wonder if when he takes over, he would change the RR and minimise tabloids and put in more real journalists in there. Could it be why they decided on a 12mnths period? Lets leave things as they are right now, and stories will be covered differently later on - lets's face it, The Sun is going down.

LaurieMarlow · 07/03/2020 16:49

The bottom line is no one really cares much about what Camilla and Sophie get up to.

Meghan will get the clicks and the eyeballs.

LaurieMarlow · 07/03/2020 16:51

It would be a great thing if he did review the relationship with the press. It’s been so toxic for everyone concerned.

LaurieMarlow · 07/03/2020 16:52

lets's face it, The Sun is going down.

I really hope this turns out to be true.

Samcro · 07/03/2020 17:00

I like Camilla, she visited dds sn school and was very nice, didn't seem to patronise.
Im. Not a fan of the princess diana style of oh bless them.
Not dissing diana, but just prefer camillas approach in that instance.
Have to say I could not convince dd that she was a princess lol.
Think she might have believed me if it had been kate or meghan,

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Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 17:16

Laurie
The Sun has ruined many a lives with their smear campaigns. I think at the moment, they are going all out smear and lies just to get sales and clicks as they see the end is neigh.

They recorded a big loss of £68m later. Which I think is mostly due to their stupidity of smearing Liverpool all those years ago. They had got away with so much smear that I think they were rather smug and arrogant, they thought they could take on a big group with no consequence. Unfortunately for them, Liverpool took a stand. And so did others. Just this week they were in court for the phone hacking scandals which include PH, Hugh G, Sienna Miller, Elton John etc. This is the pre-leminary for the trial in October and the odds are stacked against them. I believe that they would be finished by then. My guess is that they will collect as much money as they can now through false stories, and declare bankrupt by that date. But I will be glad if its the final nail in the coffin. The bosses don't care, they have offshore accounts and only care about money. They own lots of papers. I always try not to link them or DM whenever possible, but sometimes it's impossible as you have to make a point.

www.theguardian.com/media/2020/feb/23/the-sun-records-huge-loss-amid-falling-print-sales-phone-hacking-damages

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Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 17:56

Also just to say on the point of H&M going out the country.

They lived in H's old Nottingham Cottage, which according to royalty, was too small for a growing family. A 2 bedrooms, but I guess with staff when the baby comes, they thought would be too small. They were going to be moved to Number 1, next to Number 1A - where the Cambridges live. This meant that the Gloucesters(who lived in number 1) would downgrade to a much smaller Old Stables. All these needed refurbishment. £4m for number 1 - though it would take ages because of asbestos problems, and a low £400 000 to do up old stables. All overdue renovations. The RR were given a booklet with all renovations and how much they all cost - those to be done and those done. Including a whooping £369m renovations for Buckingham Palace. And yes £1m was spent on KP driveway.

The renovation of no1 was estimated around 2yrs, so, long after baby Archie would be born. H&M then had their eye on a peaceful country living. They chose the Cotsworld and took a 2 yr contract. There, they took a barn conversion at an exclusive community and called in an interior designer and I guess prepared for baby A and staff. With reports that they liked the area and had thoughts of settling down in the Cotsworld. Except, the media then flew a helicopter over the grounds and took pictures of the house, grounds, living rooms, bedrooms, bathrooms and anything they could and published them. Compromising their security. In the end, they had no choice but to move into grandma's backyard - where though the cost of renovations was smaller than No 1, a big deal was made of it.

H&M did sue the paper and were rewarded handsomely an unstated amount, though it is reported to have covered the renovation fees, inconvenience etc. they donated that money to charity.

The papers will decide what they want to publish as front stories.

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2020 18:00

Defamation= Compensation so if they and the fail don't want to go bust stop making shit up about people because they'll sue and rightly so.

Cerseirys · 07/03/2020 18:22

I remember the photos of Harry and Meghan's house being discussed on another thread at the time. It was generally agreed they had no one to blame but themselves for not building a fence and for leaving their curtains open. You couldn't make it up!

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2020 18:23

Very interesting and informative post Mummy

Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 18:46

Chris Ship, the ITV RR is not a fan of H&M, but he has to tell the truth.

From around 27mins they talk about the Cotsworld house.

Express hid this somewhere in the ether :
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1226055/meghan-markle-prince-harry-frogmore-cottage-move-reason-kensington-palace-royal-news-lates

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1146299/kate-middleton-news-latest-prince-william-kensington-palace-frogmore-cottage-royal-today

They will always have the truth hidden somewhere to cover their backs.

Rainbows8117 · 07/03/2020 19:17

First of all SR does not release anything without BP approval. SR communications head, has to report to BP comms head.

Is SR Sussex Royal? So you are saying the statements they released in January and a couple of weeks ago were approved by Buckingham Palace?

Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 19:29

Rainbows

Yes, on all the above.

I think it has something to do with who is in the heir line. No one but CH and KP can release anything without BP approval . I am guessing that may change when H&M go it alone in April as they won't have to report to anyone then really.

That statement was no snub to HM, but a sub to the media who have been twisting reports.

Roussette · 07/03/2020 19:43

H&M looks fabulous as they attend the Mountbatten Royal Festival of Music at Royal Albert Hall.

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Rainbows8117 · 07/03/2020 19:43

You are saying BP approved the SR January statement? Word for word? Even though they released a short statement in response which didn't really seem aligned?

Just wondering what your sources are on this. I'm open to being corrected by facts but as it stands there is no way I can believe either of the SR statements were approved by BP. It might be the formal protocol but I'm not convinced SR followed it if that's the case.

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2020 19:50

Oh wow that red dress is gorgeous and Meghan looks great in it.

LaurieMarlow · 07/03/2020 19:55

She really has brought her A game. Wink

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2020 20:12

Is the red dress a Victoria Beckham?

Cerseirys · 07/03/2020 20:22

Safiyya @PortiaCastis

Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 20:24

Gosh, they've been really matching up of late.

Those are more iconic pics to be remembered well into the future on their 'break up' appearance. H in his full regal and M matching. Seriously ..........

Absolutely stunning.

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Mummy195 · 07/03/2020 20:27

Rainbown
I would have to thread through a lot of sites and info to give you what you want. But in the meantime, here is Chris S breaking it down from around 6-10 minutes. HTH for now.